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Over 84% of Thailand’s COVID fatalities had not been vaccinated


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12 hours ago, dinsdale said:

So from this figure of over 84% (not sure what over actually means in numbers/%) unvaccinated and 7.2% with one jab died then around 8.8% with two jabs have died. Sorry this doesn't make sense.

It sounds a bit high compared to other countries, for so many fully vaccinated people to die.

 

Fully vaxxed people which die from COVID-19 are usually people with lowered immunes due to several reason. Mostly it's the elderly ones.

 

Maybe it has something to do which types of vaccines that has been used, since some has lower effiency towards the delta variant?

 

No matter what the data still shows any vaccine is better than none.

 

Personally not a huge fan of certain manufactures and has my own favorites, but in the end, they all has shown that they save lives.

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19 minutes ago, FunkyDunky58 said:

FIRST APOLOGIES FOR THE ALL CAPS. I AM NOT SHOUTING JUST A MALFUNCTIONING KEYBOARD.  

Try Ctrl-a to highlight All txt and then shift-F3 to change to lower case.

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7 hours ago, tingtong said:

Curiously, officially 83% of the population aren't fully vaccinated...

So the numbers kinda in line.

 

( Per recent official data 17% got the double jabs so far)

I got that immediately.  84% of Covid deaths have not been vaccinated.  About 84% of all Thais have not been vaccinated.  Shameful figures for any Government.

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13 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

84/10 = 8.4%

 

About right. 10 times less death as doctors say.

 

Anyone who thinks vaccines stop deaths are out of touch. Just reduces risk in mid level cases. Very weak people die regardless.

Virtually all fatalities involve 'co-morbidities' or existing serious illness, or just old-age The novel vaccines miraculously solve these also, then?

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2 hours ago, animatic said:

That may be a or soul who was conned and got a shot of gif knows what and no paperwork because it was not an official vax location.

Or they didn’t know to get paperwork at a legit site and just toddled off.

All vaccination by the government via Mor Prom is recorded and paperwork is issued automatically.

 

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Just now, TooMuchTime said:

People forget that science is mutable and should always be questioned.  I have noticed many people here think reading a news article headline and posting it as fact is "following science". 

That is the very definition of science - come up with a hypothesis, question it, test it, and come up with facts/results. People who base their belief on Facebook/Youtube and the such are dangerous fools.

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i do know what is in hot dogs and that is why i do not eat them. since you like to talk about past vaccines please do some research on the polio vaccine and how many lives it destroyed in its early days. Also these vaccines were not rushed to market like these ones have. i respect your decision to conform to your governments mandates but i reserve the right to decline. 

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14 hours ago, JustAnotherHun said:

No anti vaxxer, but listening. And I hear:

This data says nothing. You need to know the percentage of fully vaxxed, half vaxxed and non vaxxed people and set it into relation.

What a BS

Correct, you would also need to know the ages of the people who died and if they had pre existing conditions!

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10 hours ago, mahtin said:

Take vit d? Not enough sun for you here?

There are many here who avoid the sun. Older folk are more susceptible to skin cancer. Myself? I take vitamin D due to a liver transplant. I would not rely on the sun for your vitamin D....

 

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As of today 27M adults have had their first shot. There are 55M adults in Thailand. That's about half the adult population. People are getting vaccinated at a rate of 666k a day (yesterday's figures) with numbers in the high hundreds of thousands every day other than Saturday and Sunday. The rollout is happening. In the next couple of days, the majority of adults WILL have had their first shot.

And the people who registered and paid for Moderna. 

Now arriving some time next year 

We'll be last on the list to get vaccinated

Or dead sometime next year

not an anti-vaxxer ????

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39 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

The majority of us are not "unquestioning." We believe in that science thing. FULL of questions and answers based on facts.

Since when did ‘science’ become an all knowing God? Since when did ‘science’ become elevated to a position of unquestioning belief and following?

 

How about the FDA? Do you believe that they follow the ‘science’? If so do you throw scorn at those who question public policy based on FDA approval and directions because they are ‘unbelievers’?

 

Sadly this is what it has come to.

 

Let’s look at the FDA for a moment. It is not the bastion of integrity and honesty that we might hope for in a regulating agency and they have a history of making serious blunders in the drugs that they approve, all based on ‘science’ of the day. Here’s a quote from a recent New York Times article that addresses this:

 

“Since the 1980s, the F.D.A. has been approving more new drugs, at a faster pace, and with fewer and weaker studies to support their safety and effectiveness. The agency has also been faulted for poor oversight of the clinical trials used to decide whether or not a drug is safe.  

 

Both Donald Trump and President Biden have referred to F.D.A. approval as the “gold standard” of drug safety. It is a pretty tarnished gold.”

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/02/opinion/fda-drug-approval-trust.html

 

And this. Please read this carefully and then perhaps re-assess your judgement of those who are skeptical:

 

“Researchers at the Yale School of Medicine found that nearly a third of those approved from 2001 through 2010 had major safety issues years after the medications were made widely available to patients.

 

Seventy-one of the 222 drugs approved in the first decade of the millennium were withdrawn, required a "black box" warning on side effects or warranted a safety announcement about new risks, Dr. Joseph Ross, an associate professor of medicine at Yale School of Medicine, and colleagues reported in JAMA on Tuesday.”

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/05/09/527575055/one-third-of-new-drugs-had-safety-problems-after-fda-approval

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11 minutes ago, Antonymous said:

Since when did ‘science’ become an all knowing God? Since when did ‘science’ become elevated to a position of unquestioning belief and following?

 

How about the FDA? Do you believe that they follow the ‘science’? If so do you throw scorn at those who question public policy based on FDA approval and directions because they are ‘unbelievers’?

 

Sadly this is what it has come to.

 

Let’s look at the FDA for a moment. It is not the bastion of integrity and honesty that we might hope for in a regulating agency and they have a history of making serious blunders in the drugs that they approve, all based on ‘science’ of the day. Here’s a quote from a recent New York Times article that addresses this:

 

“Since the 1980s, the F.D.A. has been approving more new drugs, at a faster pace, and with fewer and weaker studies to support their safety and effectiveness. The agency has also been faulted for poor oversight of the clinical trials used to decide whether or not a drug is safe.  

 

Both Donald Trump and President Biden have referred to F.D.A. approval as the “gold standard” of drug safety. It is a pretty tarnished gold.”

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/02/opinion/fda-drug-approval-trust.html

 

And this. Please read this carefully and then perhaps re-assess your judgement of those who are skeptical:

 

“Researchers at the Yale School of Medicine found that nearly a third of those approved from 2001 through 2010 had major safety issues years after the medications were made widely available to patients.

 

Seventy-one of the 222 drugs approved in the first decade of the millennium were withdrawn, required a "black box" warning on side effects or warranted a safety announcement about new risks, Dr. Joseph Ross, an associate professor of medicine at Yale School of Medicine, and colleagues reported in JAMA on Tuesday.”

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/05/09/527575055/one-third-of-new-drugs-had-safety-problems-after-fda-approval

Also in regards to the FDA and CDC you should look at the relationship between megacorps execs/board members and those in executive roles at the FDA/CDA.  There is some buddy buddy when it comes to drugs and sometimes they like to bounce between the two like Scott Gottlieb

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/27/former-fda-commissioner-scott-gottlieb-joins-pfizers-board.html

 

Don't worry though, they are working in your best interest and not to make certain people rich.

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