Health minister denies Thailand rejected 1m dose Pfizer vaccine donation offered by US

[brianthainess]

16 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

saying that protocol dictates

Protocol ! does this idiot even know the meaning of the word, hey you Nut In government is discrimination correct protocol to foreigners ? Answer yes if in Thailand. I am still interested to know is there ANY other country in the world that kept foreigners at the back of the queue ????????????????????????????????????????????????

[konaboy]

my wife and I had the same Amphur problem and gave up. Got married in Hawaii!

did they want a tip?

[CANSIAM]

Appalling, donations again of ‘ready to go’ Pfizer for the needy Thai citizens ( and foreigners ) under his watch being delayed, carry on Mr A you’ve lost another tourist high season anyhow ……….

Edited September 24, 2021 by CANSIAM

[malthebluff]

I'm sure if they counted the number of vaccines donated and had 1 million more then expected they could work out where it came from. ( that if it has been counted and not hidden )

[greenmonkey]

scandalous. Which ever way you look at this it is scandalous. Either Anutin and his cronies are so disorganized that the offer of a million doses does not reach him (highly doubtful). Or they are so inept they cannot complete paperwork to enable the importation of the vaccines (also highly doubtful). Or, he simply  doesn't want to accept the donation. Hmmm now I wonder which it could be.

[poskat]

We didnt reject it, we just didnt follow up on it...

 

kind of like when you ask a girl out and she says she will let you know, but never texts back

that way she can feel that she didnt reject you...

[Stocky]

Who you going to believe Senator Duckworth or Health Minister Anutin, it's a tough call.

[spidermike007]

Nothing this incompetent could do or say would mean anything, at this point. The saying "all credibility is lost" was invented for you Anutin!

 

Nobody believes anything he or Prayuth say. Thailand desperately needs policy, competent ministers with experience in the fields their ministries are in charge of, and at least a tiny amount of vision and planning. Prayuth and Anutin lack every pre-requisite. So do most of the ministers. Likely the two least qualified and least effective of the lot. One would think during a national emergency, a skilled and talented tourism and health minister would be considered important.

He does not inspire confidence, as he has no follow up in his game, is highly insincere, and is grossly incompetent and under qualified for the job. One would think after 7 plus years he has had time to learn. That does not appear to be the case. He is a terrible health minister. This kind of national emergency is real proof that Thailand should never allow another coup to happen. With a civilian government that is democratically elected, and a truly representative body in the senate, Thailand at least has a chance of qualified ministers being appointed based on merit and talent.

With Prayuth and this army, there is little chance of this ever happening. They are re-defining the words cronyism and inept on a daily basis.

 

 

[daveAustin]

^^ Succinctly, Mike, the bloke is an a$$hat. 

[Artisi]

2 hours ago, paul1804 said:

IT is beggars belief what goes on in LOS with their elected ( supposed to be ) leaders, 1 million Pfizer doses waiting to be sent but cannot because paperwork not completed by Thailand! If this is true it is treasonous given the current situation, why is this tolerated by the General and people of Thailand! 

 

Because by default the general is complicit and the general public are possibly not fully informed or are aware their thoughts are of no importance. 

 

[Artisi]

22 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Nothing this incompetent could do or say would mean anything, at this point. The saying "all credibility is lost" was invented for you Anutin!

 

Nobody believes anything he or Prayuth say. Thailand desperately needs policy, competent ministers with experience in the fields their ministries are in charge of, and at least a tiny amount of vision and planning. Prayuth and Anutin lack every pre-requisite. So do most of the ministers. Likely the two least qualified and least effective of the lot. One would think during a national emergency, a skilled and talented tourism and health minister would be considered important.

He does not inspire confidence, as he has no follow up in his game, is highly insincere, and is grossly incompetent and under qualified for the job. One would think after 7 plus years he has had time to learn. That does not appear to be the case. He is a terrible health minister. This kind of national emergency is real proof that Thailand should never allow another coup to happen. With a civilian government that is democratically elected, and a truly representative body in the senate, Thailand at least has a chance of qualified ministers being appointed based on merit and talent.

With Prayuth and this army, there is little chance of this ever happening. They are re-defining the words cronyism and inept on a daily basis.

 

 

You only need 2 words to fully describe it, cronyism - inept,  that's fully descriptive of the situation. 

[spidermike007]

Just now, Artisi said:

You only need 2 words to fully describe it, cronyism - inept,  that's fully descriptive of the situation. 

How about terrible sad, pathetic, a failed administration, a nearly failed state, and woe are the people of Thailand?

[Hawaiian]

Approximately $20 million or more worth of vaccine at no cost.  Too proud and/or stupid to touch bases with the U.S. Embassy?  Never mind we can always buy  more from China.

[Artisi]

17 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

Approximately $20 million or more worth of vaccine at no cost.  Too proud and/or stupid to touch bases with the U.S. Embassy?  Never mind we can always buy  more from China.

The second option seems to fit perfectly - stupid.... 

[DaveSamutP]

18 hours ago, HaoleBoy said:

Is this just Thailand doing what China wants and says?

 

Or is that too sophisticated a theory and the Thai Ministers just can't get their sh*t together and know what the left hand is doing. 

I think the old saying is applicable to Thailand.

 

Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by incompetence.

 

????

[fabruer]

Of course, a misunderstanding.

Hub of misunderstandings 4.0. ????‍♂️

[DaveE13]

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Nothing this incompetent could do or say would mean anything, at this point. The saying "all credibility is lost" was invented for you Anutin!

 

Nobody believes anything he or Prayuth say. Thailand desperately needs policy, competent ministers with experience in the fields their ministries are in charge of, and at least a tiny amount of vision and planning. Prayuth and Anutin lack every pre-requisite. So do most of the ministers. Likely the two least qualified and least effective of the lot. One would think during a national emergency, a skilled and talented tourism and health minister would be considered important.

He does not inspire confidence, as he has no follow up in his game, is highly insincere, and is grossly incompetent and under qualified for the job. One would think after 7 plus years he has had time to learn. That does not appear to be the case. He is a terrible health minister. This kind of national emergency is real proof that Thailand should never allow another coup to happen. With a civilian government that is democratically elected, and a truly representative body in the senate, Thailand at least has a chance of qualified ministers being appointed based on merit and talent.

With Prayuth and this army, there is little chance of this ever happening. They are re-defining the words cronyism and inept on a daily basis.

 

 

Ooh look at my ribbons and medals!!

[spidermike007]

4 minutes ago, DaveE13 said:

Ooh look at my ribbons and medals!!

A very impressive 110 baht worth. Respect me, please. I know I never served my nation, nor have I ever fought in a war. If I were to be honest, I would likely wet my pants. But the uniform is something, right? I am a big man. 

Edited September 24, 2021 by spidermike007

[Litlos]

My take is a little different. Despite the US embassy denying that there were strings attached to the first 1.5million doses, there were, remember one of the many generals standing up at some gab fest and saying 10% had to go to expats and so much to health care workers etc, well I have had that fact confirmed by 2 different doctors, thank you USA by the way as I benefitted. I feel that Anutin or one of his cohorts did not like being told how to distribute the windfall so decided to treat the US to some Thai bureaucracy for the second batch. Now just a face saving exercise as it has become public. Truly despicable actions though, and I hope one day to see the karma delivered for it.

 

Cheers

[LomSak27]

13 minutes ago, Litlos said:

I feel that Anutin or one of his cohorts did not like being told how to distribute the windfall so decided to treat the US to some Thai bureaucracy for the second batch

China asked/demanded that its nationals in Thailand be vaccinated as they had gifted vaccine to Thailand, yes they also sold a lot too. Anutin and cohorts had no problem with that. Why the sudden problem.

[JustAnotherHun]

Why should we accept donnations from dirty farang if we can buy good sinvac from our cousins....

[chalawaan]

4 hours ago, fondue zoo said:

 

Does anyone else hear the Benny Hill Show theme music playing in the background these days?

 

 

I hear the requiem at the end of the movie "Platoon".

These clowns and their thievery are killing Thais from infection and despair, every days vax delay, someone has to walk away from their lifetimes work or a business, or they die, while they trouser thug money.  Their "Qaddafi in a drainpipe" moment would be nice to witness... but I can only dream.

[chalawaan]

58 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

A very impressive 110 baht worth. Respect me, please. I know I never served my nation, nor have I ever fought in a war. If I were to be honest, I would likely wet my pants. But the uniform is something, right? I am a big man. 

It's the fake wings that stick in my craw as well, my Dad was in 2 Para, the Royal Engineers, and 4 Royal Tank Regiment over a twelve year Army stint. He got One (1) general service medal with a Malaya clasp, and wings he bloody well earned. I loathe these two bit fancy dress goons with a visceral hatred.

The military are the problem here, and their societal worship of it (Army Day?) makes me want to throw up in my own mouth. 

They claim never to have been colonized, BS! They bent over for the Japanese, after 3 days of skirmishes, and did a deal. And no less than Churchill wanted them to pay for that, but somehow, they slimed out of that reckoning too! And another thing, the Burmese, in better days, handed them their butts on more than one occasion. 

Edited September 24, 2021 by chalawaan

[Litlos]

25 minutes ago, LomSak27 said:

China asked/demanded that its nationals in Thailand be vaccinated as they had gifted vaccine to Thailand, yes they also sold a lot too. Anutin and cohorts had no problem with that. Why the sudden problem.

Thailand paid twice as much for Sinovac as compared to AZ etc. China donated 100,000 to ensure their citizens were vaccinated, plus a bit of spare. A few other countries did the same. The US told Thailand that 10% had to go to "Dirty Falangs" as well as 20% to frontline health care workers. So no cut in accepting a donation and having to do as told, also no kickback for buying US vaccines as the US Government will prosecute any company who does. Join the dots.

 

Cheers

[nkg]

Disgusting.

[Isaan sailor]

21 hours ago, HaoleBoy said:

Is this just Thailand doing what China wants and says?

 

Or is that too sophisticated a theory and the Thai Ministers just can't get their sh*t together and know what the left hand is doing. 

A better way to get to the bottom of this:  ask China if they want the USA to donate another 1m doses of Pfizer to Thailand.

[LomSak27]

2 hours ago, Litlos said:

Join the dots.

Ahh so it is because of government corruption. Why didn't you say that in the first place. 

[cncltd1973]

13 hours ago, thailand49 said:

I would think the first donation made by the U.S. showed what an insult as to what China has been doing and giving since the pandemic. From my interaction with Thais they might feel the same no one unless they have a choice want the the useless stuff the leaders can't answer the call find the paperwork or complete it unless they have a bit of light and that isn't going to happen when they got their head up the butts of the CCP????

 

The goal has always been to monopoly with the use of AZ, accepting more would of Pfizer would only reduce the profit of making AZ, reason they didn't want to join Covax? in the beginning.

Yes, China complained when Thais refused their vax and waited for the western ones, they were progressing toward Chinese hegemony in Thailand nicely until that reality presented itself. The khakis are ready to play ball but the rest of the people are dragging their heals until they get an incentive to sell out also, like Chinese paying retail prices to buy up the property. The trainline from China to BKK should be ready by then...

 

In the end, Thailand will find it finally has become a colony, or at least China's Florida????

[chalawaan]

Anutin couldn't find his butt with both hands. It's somewhat irritating that people like him gain the treasure, status, and power they do. Absolutely "who you know" in this broken, battered world, and never more true than in Kalaland.

[mark131v]

14 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

But he's what you get in a kakistocracy.

Is that the same as a <deleted>eocracy if so it is clearly working as the <deleted> all seem to rise to the top!!!