seedy Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, placeholder said: 50 years? Anything else from that crystal ball to report? you mean like your predictions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, LarrySR said: I could see why he is against battery powered cars. He’s got a job fixing carburetors in his driveway. Not sure what century youre in but all cars have fuel injection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrySR Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said: Not sure what century youre in but all cars have fuel injection. And I'm not sure why you are over here in the "Electric vehicles of all kinds" discussion. Strange. No doubt, your buddies over in the flat earth thread could use your input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 33 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said: you mean like your predictions? Really? I've made predictions for 50 years in advance? What would those be? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandersnatch Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, seedy said: I have to agree that the grid in Thailand is one of the dirtiest in the world. However, Thailand is one of best places to install solar - it is close to the equator so gets great solar all year round. Labour rates are very low, so it's cheap to have your panels fitted. For every ฿100,000 invested in solar you save approximately ฿1,000 per month off your electric bill. That same ฿100,000 sat in the bank at the current interest rate of about 0.5% would give you ฿42 a month of interest to put towards you electric bill. That's why I installed solar to charge my car and power my house Edited October 28, 2021 by Bandersnatch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmerjo Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 I recently had a drone out to do some work. 20kg payload and i thought it performed to about 60% of what manufacturer stated. The battery tech has improved but still a fair way off so it's a rich man's toy for a few more years yet. Personally i will review the cars in 10 years time when my ice vehicle is due for replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunLA Posted October 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) Trolls ... simply amazing For the same price as an nice ICE Fortuner, you can buy an EV car + home solar system that will power both, day & night. Car - 1 m (MG EP) Solar - 350k (7.5kws w/5.8kw ESS) or 150k for just daytime solar. Edited October 28, 2021 by KhunLA 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmerjo Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 I'm sorry if you think i was trolling,i was adding my personal experience and thoughts. I have no interest in solar,i do have an interest in the progression of electric vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 If governments want people to buy electric, they should force the manufacturers to price the electric the same or cheaper than the other types. +500Kbht for the electric model in Thailand just won't cut it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 16 hours ago, placeholder said: Tesla Surpasses $1 Trillion in Market Value as Hertz Orders 100,000 Vehicles https://www.wsj.com/articles/hertz-orders-100-000-teslas-11635167670 What's there P/E, 500? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 8 hours ago, placeholder said: And the latest HVDC power lines can transmit current about 600 miles with only a 1.6% loss of power. Do you have more information on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 45 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: What's there P/E, 500? How quickly are they growing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 42 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: Do you have more information on this? https://www.power-technology.com/features/featurethe-worlds-longest-power-transmission-lines-4167964/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrySR Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 43 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: What's there P/E, 500? Tesla PE is 338. Around the same as Amazon’s was 14 years ago, then the stock gained another 14,000%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, farmerjo said: I'm sorry if you think i was trolling,i was adding my personal experience and thoughts. I have no interest in solar,i do have an interest in the progression of electric vehicles. Don't think referring to you. Reference to someone on my ignore list (seedy) that was quoted with silly photos. If people don't want solar and or an EV, for whatever reason, fine. It, both just works for me. But when trying to reason why solar & EV don't / won't work, with silly reason & examples, they simply show their ignorance, or trolling. Anyone that can afford a nicer SUV (Fortuner) can afford an EV and solar system at home. Be self sufficient, and hell, even sell excess back to the power company in some countries, helping support the grid for those who solar might be impractical for. DISCLAIMER: previous photo of solar & car not mine, posted earlier by another in this thread. Just using as example, in Thailand & affordable. Edited October 28, 2021 by KhunLA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandersnatch Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, KhunLA said: DISCLAIMER: previous photo of solar & car not mine, posted earlier by another in this thread. Just using as example, in Thailand & affordable. Photo; Solar and EV was mine, but happy for it to be used in this discussion ???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 35 minutes ago, KhunLA said: Don't think referring to you. Reference to someone on my ignore list (seedy) that was quoted with silly photos. Truth Hurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) Wonder how many EV's will sell in Africa ? https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-lowest-access-to-electricity.html 940 million people do not have access to electricity globally That is 12% - zero access. Many more have reduced access https://ourworldindata.org/energy-access All this talk about how EV's, PHEV's, Hybrids, etc etc are going to save the world - only applies to people in the West who can afford them. The rest of the world - especially South America, Africa, and Asia - not a chance. Edited October 28, 2021 by seedy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 39 minutes ago, seedy said: Wonder how many EV's will sell in Africa ? https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-lowest-access-to-electricity.html 940 million people do not have access to electricity globally That is 12% - zero access. Many more have reduced access https://ourworldindata.org/energy-access All this talk about how EV's, PHEV's, Hybrids, etc etc are going to save the world - only applies to people in the West who can afford them. The rest of the world - especially South America, Africa, and Asia - not a chance. And what percentage of the world's autos are currently being purchased by people so poor that they haven't got electricity? As for Asia... How China Became The World's Largest Electric Vehicle Market https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-became-worlds-largest-electric-193843992.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, placeholder said: And what percentage of the world's autos are currently being purchased by people so poor that they haven't got electricity? As for Asia... How China Became The World's Largest Electric Vehicle Market https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-became-worlds-largest-electric-193843992.html China is a country - Asia is a continent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 minute ago, seedy said: China is a country - Asia is a continent And a continent where China has almost 1/3 of the total population of Asia. Also a continent where incomes were increasingly rapid in much of it until Covid hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) 58 minutes ago, seedy said: Wonder how many EV's will sell in Africa ? https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-lowest-access-to-electricity.html 940 million people do not have access to electricity globally That is 12% - zero access. Many more have reduced access https://ourworldindata.org/energy-access All this talk about how EV's, PHEV's, Hybrids, etc etc are going to save the world - only applies to people in the West who can afford them. The rest of the world - especially South America, Africa, and Asia - not a chance. Did you actually look at the page you linked to? Asia hardly figures and South America not at all. Basically, it's all about Africa. https://ourworldindata.org/energy-access Edited October 28, 2021 by placeholder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmerjo Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Bandersnatch said: Photo; Solar and EV was mine, but happy for it to be used in this discussion ???? Hi Bandersnatch, Have you done any amount of driving in the rain and through pools of water yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Asia ... just China & India account for 35% of the world population No market there ... ???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, farmerjo said: Hi Bandersnatch, Have you done any amount of driving in the rain and through pools of water yet. I personally won't drive any vehicle here through water higher than 10cm or the low rubber side of the tire. Reason...most wheel bearings on cars are NOT seal here. Already had to replace a few on my Toyota or Mazda, forget which. Everyone knows water & electric don't mix, so surely precautions are made. Was trying to find one vid I saw, Thailand, guy submerges his whole scooter in stream and runs the motor. Impressive. And this is 3 yrs old ... wonder if any advancements since ???? Edited October 28, 2021 by KhunLA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, KhunLA said: Asia ... just China & India account for 35% of the world population No market there ... ???????????? But it's only a glimmer. Electric vehicle sales - 121,900 this financial year - account for only 1.66% of India's 20 million automobile sales https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-58977080 As of 2020, there were over 0.9 million of new battery electric vehicles (BEV) sold in China. China population - The current population of China is 1,446,660,472 as of Thursday, October 28, 2021 The current population of India is 1,397,902,013 as of Thursday, October 28, 2021 https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/china-population/ EV Fanatics really need to get their craniums removed from their posteriors. Awaiting the expected "sales are predicted, battery tech on the drawing board, expected to be ... and the crown jewels - Tesla predicts" Seems more than one flew over the cuckoos nest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandersnatch Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, farmerjo said: Hi Bandersnatch, Have you done any amount of driving in the rain and through pools of water yet. Have been driving the car all through this past rainy season and it has been very wet. The regen breaking gives great confidence in the wet. I simply lift my foot off the accelerator pedal and the electric motor recharges and slows the car down, no chance of locking up. With battery weight low down it makes the car feel very stable in the corners. And yes diving through big puddles has not been a problem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi850m2 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 In the newspaper we are not allowed to quote, they write that The Finance Ministry stands ready to approve measures to promote the use of electric vehicles (EV), which is expected to significantly bring down the prices of imported EVs, said a source on the National Electric Vehicle Policy Committee. This is supposedly taking place from 1 Jan 2022. Interesting for sure. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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