On 10/6/2021 at 4:22 PM, wadman said:

To intimidate him into moving away.  Not on the spot, but hopefully soon.  A gun is a great tool to add to the intimidation.

It is not uncommon for family of a Thai lady to intimidate her Farang husband to go away after she has her house in her name. Why Sathian would do so in the middle of the night is a mystery.

3 hours ago, PingRoundTheWorld said:

I was thinking just that - even if this isn't what actually happened - the fact that if he dies or goes to jail the wife would get the house and probably much more (any known savings/investments, life insurance if there is, etc) is alarming - to say the least.

If on the other hand he didn't buy the house (only rented), didn't marry her, and all assets were kept out of Thailand - her motivation would be to keep him as safe as possible.

But to sum it up, as you said - if she knows you're worth much more to her alive and well than.. uhh.. not.. chances are you'll remain that way.

Maybe she was happy with the prestigious  mia farang status in the village. Her affair with Sathien seems to have been going on for 2-3 years and he was maybe not her  first or only toy boy. Rudolf tolerated and funded her party girl life style, boyfriend and probably a compulsive gambling habit for a long time. There was no suggestion that this was an unhappy marriage. If she had Rudolf murdered and moved Sathien in, her life would have gone downhill rapidly and she may well have been smart enough to figure this out. She would have just become the property of a typical drunken Thai peasant who has already abandoned his own family and would be giving her pressure to hand over her supposed inheritance so he could dole it out to his own bit of fluff on the side.

The OP describes the story from the perspective of the deceased's family. But, they have motivation to try to make him look better, so their story needs more corroboration, like from phone records of the wife, bank statements, in other words, facts. 

 

Nothing in their story explains why the deceased showed up at the Swiss man's house with a gun. 

 

If it is true that the wife called Sathian before he came over, then there can only be 2 explanations:

 

Murder

 

Or

 

Scare the Farang away, so Sathian can move in. 

Swissie needs to get out of Thailand, like right now,shirt on his back, thats it.

 

The need for money and demands for it are at fever pitch,there is reason for me to be here,otherwise Im gone.

 

Few examples for me, just this morn cleaner I had ,had accident,told her id pay,came out of hospital small scratch,stated 936,told her to go back inside get receipt...396 baht..sacked,cleaner before that needed 3500 pay rent...sacked,  cleaner before that  4000  sacked...before that 5000,but was giving her one too,  but sacked,miss that one, but not worth 5000

 

gees what was once 500/1000 now is 3000 to 4000 just for starters,    Someone wants to contact Swissie and get him to hell out of it

 

Do not know if on bail he can thru official channels,there is no warrant for arrest so maybe he can,but Swissie you need to be gone, as of yesterday

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

The OP describes the story from the perspective of the deceased's family. But, they have motivation to try to make him look better, so their story needs more corroboration, like from phone records of the wife, bank statements, in other words, facts. 

 

Nothing in their story explains why the deceased showed up at the Swiss man's house with a gun. 

 

If it is true that the wife called Sathian before he came over, then there can only be 2 explanations:

 

Murder

 

Or

 

Scare the Farang away, so Sathian can move in. 

The problem with cracking this case is that the Thai guy's family seems to be singularly focused on "family reputation" and recouping the missing money. If there was any murder-under-the-guise-of-a-robbery plot or any other subterfuge involving Setiyon, the Thai guy's friends and family have no incentive to come forward to disclose this to the police because it would undermine their efforts to salvage the family reputation, recoup the missing money, and if it is alleged that Rudolph went overboard in his self-defense, the family stands to benefit from civil damages incurred as a result of Setiyon's death.

 

If, for example, it came to light that Setiyon and Lak planned to kill Rudolph to get him out of the way, that would destroy the family reputation, and undermine their efforts to recoup missing money, or civil damages for his death. If any of Setiyon's family or friends know anything that implicates Setiyon, or that he came to the house for nefarious reasons, they now have a big financial incentive to keep their mouths shut. I suspect that is why getting to the bottom of why Setiyon came to the house that night may prove to be so difficult. And I don't think the mystery of this whole affair can be solved without knowing his motive for coming to the house.

3 hours ago, Dogmatix said:

Maybe she was happy with the prestigious  mia farang status in the village. Her affair with Sathien seems to have been going on for 2-3 years and he was maybe not her  first or only toy boy. Rudolf tolerated and funded her party girl life style, boyfriend and probably a compulsive gambling habit for a long time. There was no suggestion that this was an unhappy marriage. If she had Rudolf murdered and moved Sathien in, her life would have gone downhill rapidly and she may well have been smart enough to figure this out. She would have just become the property of a typical drunken Thai peasant who has already abandoned his own family and would be giving her pressure to hand over her supposed inheritance so he could dole it out to his own bit of fluff on the side.

Agree here,but Rudolphs binding of Thai guy does not stand up too well either,but that puts Rudolphs life in danger,   dead Thais family will be seeking revenge,especially if he escapes any charges,and being only 900 metres from his home likened to red rag to a bull each and ever day

 

"house for nefarious reasons, they now have a big financial incentive to keep their mouths shut. I suspect that is why getting to the bottom of why Setiyon came to the house that night may prove to be so difficult. And I don't think the mystery of this whole affair can be solved without knowing his motive for coming to the house. "    not in any sense of being just here and now, no concept of anything ,only a blurred vision thru p.issed up thinking his life was changing that very instance, money in pocket (not for long tho)..... and that way of thinking is every Thais way of thinking.... it follows a muck cart

On 10/6/2021 at 8:34 AM, RichardColeman said:

I'd add a word of caution to the claims of any family that may bring a case for potential monetary compensation, especially as the family 'may' have been benefitting from the dead man's 'relationship' with the woman. 

Why did go to the house with the gun if there was no intention of robbery or harm?

On 10/9/2021 at 9:39 PM, Lancelot01 said:

Why did go to the house with the gun if there was no intention of robbery or harm?

Anyone know the latest on this...........the thread seems to have come to an abrupt end??

12 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Anyone know the latest on this...........the thread seems to have come to an abrupt end??

As they always do, very rarely do we get any updates, you know that ????