1.2M Baht in Bank for O-A Visa???

[srowndedbyh2o]

I just went to the Los Angeles Thai Consulate website to re-check if they had updated the site to show the required 3M insurance required with the O-A visa, which they already have done. But what really caught me by surprise was this:

 

7. Applicant must have a bank deposit of
    7.1 no less than 1,200,000 Baht or
    7.2 an income certificate (an original copy) with a monthly income (pension) of not less than 100,000 Baht, or
    7.3 a deposit account plus a monthly income (pension) totaling not less than 1,200,000 Baht.

     In the case of submitting a bank statement, a letter of guarantee from the bank (an original copy) is required.

 

I figured this was coming someday, but it still really surprised me. I wouldn’t be surprised if this carries over to the NON-O retirement extensions. ????

Edited October 25, 2021 by srowndedbyh2o

[scubascuba3]

That is a surprise, not read about that anywhere

[Gsxrnz]

News to me and seen no mention of this change anywhere.  Maybe they've made a cock-up and are confusedly combining the 800K for 6 months and 400K for 6 months together, and getting 1200K, on a 2+2=5 basis.

 

 

[ubonjoe]

I cannot find that info on the LA consulate website.

They do not mention the requirements for any visa that I could find. It only refers to using the e visa site.

Somehow your read the requirements for a Non-OX visa.

This is shown on the embassy website for a Non-OA visa.

"O-A visa: US or Thai bank statement showing a deposit of the amount equal to and not less than 800,000 Baht or an income certificate (an original copy) with a monthly income of not less than 65,000 Baht, or a deposit account plus a monthly income totaling not less than 800,000 Baht. In the case of submitting a bank statement, a letter of guarantee from the bank (an original copy) is required"

Source: https://thaiembdc.org/2020/11/17/oalongstay/

This is what it shows for the Non-OX visa.

"O-X visa: A copy of bank statement from Thailand financial institutes and a letter of guarantee from the bank with bank’s contact information showing a deposit of the amount equal to and not less than 3 Million Baht. (Please note that such minimum amount must be maintained at least 1 year after receiving the visa) or A copy of bank statement (from financial institutes located in Thailand only) and a letter of guarantee from the bank with bank’s contact information showing a deposit of the amount equal to and not less than 1.8 Million Baht and proof of annual incomes of not less than 1.2 Million Baht. Once the applicants enter Thailand, they must have accumulated money deposited in Thai bank located in Thailand not less than 3 million Baht within 1 year."

Source: https://thaiembdc.org/2020/09/30/nonimmigrantoaox/

 

I did a little more digging and found the OA visa info and it has the same as the embassy website.

https://thaiconsulatela.org/en/visa/visa-type/non-immigration-category-o-a/

OX visa: https://thaiconsulatela.org/en/visa/visa-type/non-immigration-visa-category-o-x/

 

 

[jackdd]

2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

I cannot find that info on the LA consulate website.

https://thaiconsulatela.org/en/non-o/

Point 7 under non-OA

[srowndedbyh2o]

3 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

 

I cannot find that info on the LA consulate website.

 

My previous post was a copy and paste from the L.A. website.

https://thaiconsulatela.org/en/non-o/

 

 

[poohy]

Non-Immigrant Visa Category “O-A” (long stay)

Holder of this type of visa is allowed to stay in Thailand for 1 year.
Employment of any kind is strictly prohibited.

Eligibility / Other required documents :

1. Applicant must be aged 50 years and over (on the day of submitting application).
2. Applicant not prohibited from entering the Kingdom as provided by the Immigration Act B.E. 2522 (1979).
3. Having the nationality of or residence in the country where applicant’s application is submitted.
    Copy of a certificate of residence (if applicable)

4. Insurance – Applicant must have a health insurance for the duration of stay, with coverage for covid-19 disease with the total sum insured of THB 3,000,000 (100,000 USD) per policy year.

• Health insurance policy document issued by a Thai or foreign insurance company, stating that the applicant is
  medically insured for the period and with coverage as mentioned above:
  (a)  Foreign insurance company, the applicant must submit the original insurance policy document with 2 copies;
  (b)  Thai insurance company, the applicant must submit 2 copies of the insurance policy document or, if available,
       the original insurance policy document with 2 copies.

   

• A list of Thai insurance companies participating in the scheme can be found here: http://longstay.tgia.org
• Foreign Insurance Certificate as stipulated by the Office of Insurance Commission and Health Insurance of Thailand,
  which must be completed, signed and stamped by the insurance company.

  The form can be downloaded here: Foreign Insurance Certificate Form

5. Criminal record
     – Letter of verification stating that the applicant has no criminal record
     – verification have to valid for not more than three months and
     – must be issued from a state or Federal Bureau of Investigation only.
     – Online criminal record without authorize signature is unacceptable 

6. Medical certificate showing no prohibitive diseases as indicated in the Ministerial Regulation No.14 (B.E. 2535)
    certificate shall be valid for not more than three months (Leprosy, Tuberculosis, drug addiction, Elephantiasis,
    third phase of Syphilis)  (Medical Form — Click here –) 

7. Applicant must have a bank deposit of
    7.1 no less than 1,200,000 Baht or
    7.2 an income certificate (an original copy) with a monthly income (pension) of not less than 100,000 Baht, or
    7.3 a deposit account plus a monthly income (pension) totaling not less than 1,200,000 Baht.

     In the case of submitting a bank statement, a letter of guarantee from the bank (an original copy) is required

8. Additional Application Form for Non-Immigrant “O-A” (Long Stay)    
    A completed application form for long stay visa  — Click here —

 

 

[sqwakvfr]

The conflict is because the OA Visa on the consulate website is in two different locations.  The old Financial Standards(800k and 65K) are listed in the Visa section.  The new standards(1.2 Mil and 100K) are listed under the E-Visa application section.  I would bet the E-Visa standards will be what an applicant has to  prove in order to get an OA Visa from now on.  Also, the new insurance limit of 3 million is also under the E-Visa section as well.  Doubt very few OA visa’s will be issued from now.  I am still able to qualify under the new standards and if I had to I could get another OA.  

 

As usual, not consistent because this is what the DC embassy states for the OA:

O-A visa: US or Thai bank statement showing a deposit of the amount equal to and not less than 800,000 Baht or an income certificate (an original copy) with a monthly income of not less than 65,000 Baht, or a deposit account plus a monthly income totaling not less than 800,000 Baht. In the case of submitting a bank statement, a letter of guarantee from the bank (an original copy) is required.

 

 

 

Edited October 25, 2021 by sqwakvfr

[HiSoLowSoNoSo]

It says that you need 700 USD in a bank account to be able to apply for a tourist visa also, here in France it's 2000 Euros. Strange that they can not agree on uniform rules. 

[ubonjoe]

18 minutes ago, jackdd said:

https://thaiconsulatela.org/en/non-o/

Point 7 under non-OA

That is clearly an error. Another page on the same website has the correct number.

There have been no changes to the financial requirements for a oA visa.

[srowndedbyh2o]

17 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

That is clearly an error.

I hope so.

I noticed that the Thai E-Visa Official Website states; deposit of the amount equal to and not less than 800,000 THB or an income certificate with a monthly income of not less than 65,000 THB or a deposit account plus a monthly income in total not less than 80,000 THB.

Not sure I understand that last part about the deposit account and 80,000 monthly income.

Edited October 25, 2021 by srowndedbyh2o

[ubonjoe]

9 minutes ago, srowndedbyh2o said:

I hope so.

I noticed that the Thai E-Visa Official Website states; deposit of the amount equal to and not less than 800,000 THB or an income certificate with a monthly income of not less than 65,000 THB or a deposit account plus a monthly income in total not less than 80,000 THB.

Not sure I understand that last part about the deposit account and 80,000 monthly income.

Add a zero to the 80,000 baht and you will get the correct number that is a total of 800,000 baht.

[srowndedbyh2o]

14 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Add a zero to the 80,000 baht and you will get the correct number that is a total of 800,000 baht.

Now that you mention it, it is pretty obvious????

Thank you.

[MRToMRT]

This would not surprise me, I do hope it is an error but I think we have to wait and see if theres any more confirmation over the next days from other embassies. 

It's interesting to me that when I read the page (linked above) with the visas and the requirements laid out, I thought thats not a bad visa selection really. It made me think to myself that the big complicating issue is the extension of stay requirements for the differing visas and the long stay implications therein. 

Edited October 25, 2021 by MRToMRT

[wwest5829]

It has been some time ago but when I applied for my O-A Visa for reason of retirement in the USA. I had to submit a financial statement demonstrating I had the financial ability to retire and not become a burden on the Kingdom of Thailand. I do not recall a specific amount being mentioned but my retirement funds were more than sufficient to demonstrate financial support. These funds have remained in the US as I use the 65K baht monthly income method for my O-A Visa Extension of Stay. I would not recommend coming in with an O-A Visa. Enter Visa Exempt, apply for the "O" Visa in Thailand.

[Scott Tracy]

From the Royal Thai Embassy London website:

 

Non-Immigrant Type O- A (Long Stay) 1 Year/Multiple entries 

 

• Printout of visa application form submitted online, with bar code

• Passport or travel document with validity not less than 6 months and at least 2 blank pages

• A medical certificate issued in the UK or Ireland or Thailand, showing no prohibitive diseases as indicated in the Ministerial Regulation No.14 (B.E. 2535) which include Leprosy, Tuberculosis, Elephantiasis, drug addiction, third stage of Syphilis, and the certificate shall be valid for not more than three months.
• Certificate of criminal record clearance from the UK (ACRO, DBS, or issued by the police) or Ireland
• Financial evidence showing monthly income of not less than 65,000 THB (approx. £1,625) or having the current balance of 800,000 THB (approx. £20,000), e.g. bank statements, proof of earnings, for at least 1 month
• Copy of evidence stating that applicants have insurance as per stipulated by the Office of Insurance Commission and health insurance of Thailand which covers COVID-19 related medical expenses, both inpatient and outpatient, no less than 100,000 USD for the whole period of your stay in Thailand.
• Please check < http://longstay.tgia.org> for more information regarding the insurance requirement.

https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/84508-non-immigrant-visas?page=5d6636cd15e39c3bd00072dd&menu=5f4b6eb3f6ae4b236972c562

 

 

I notice no mention of the 40000/400000 baht insurance requirements now. 

I checked with the insurance company link and Pacific Cross still shows the original requirements.

 

 

A Mandatory Requirement

For Thailand Long-stay Visa Applicants

The new requirements, which were approved by Cabinet in April 2019 and announced by the Ministry of Public Health (MoPH), state that people applying or renewing (or rather re-applying for) a Non-Immigrant Visa “O-A” and “O-X” now need to have a Thai health insurance policy for the duration of the stay, with coverage for Outpatient Treatment of no less than 40,000 baht and Inpatient Treatment of no less than 400,000 baht.

 

https://www.pacificcrosshealth.com/en/longstay-visa/

[ubonjoe]

18 minutes ago, Scott Tracy said:

• Copy of evidence stating that applicants have insurance as per stipulated by the Office of Insurance Commission and health insurance of Thailand which covers COVID-19 related medical expenses, both inpatient and outpatient, no less than 100,000 USD for the whole period of your stay in Thailand.
• Please check < http://longstay.tgia.org> for more information regarding the insurance requirement.

They did not bother posting amounts of insurance by providing the reference to the insurance commission and the link for the insurance website. That site sill shows 40/400k baht insurance.

[rwill]

I think when I got my O-A there about 10 years ago it was listed as $30,000.

But being an old fart my memory could be errant.

Edited October 26, 2021 by rwill

[ubonjoe]

48 minutes ago, rwill said:

I think when I got my O-A there about 10 years ago it was listed as $30,000.

It has been the equivalent of 800k baht since 2003 for the OA visa or extension of stay based upon retirement and that has not been changed. At today's exchange rate that would be about $24,000.

[scubascuba3]

Surprised this thread hasn't been closed yet as it's wrong and misleading

[Jingthing]

This is definitely an error but perhaps of interest to applicants there. Irrelevant to everyone else.

[EricTh]

@srowndedbyh2o

 

Just apply for non-O visa and bring in 800,000 baht. It's less of a headache. 

 

Let's hope that immigration doesn't increase the minimum amount in the future for non-O due to the action of some people who circumvent the requirement and hire agents.

 

People are already complaining about the 800k, there might be an exodus if it were to increase to 1.2 million baht.

 

 

 

 

Edited October 26, 2021 by EricTh

[ubonjoe]

A off topic post meant to deflect the topic has been removed.

 

[ubonjoe]

8 minutes ago, EricTh said:

People are already complaining about the 800k, there might be an exodus if it were to increase to 1.2 million baht.

That is not going to happen.

The 1.2 million number was an error and is a number used for the non-ox visa using income with money in the bank to reach a total of 3 million baht.

[KhunLA]

OP is correct, he did read it on the LA site: https://thaiconsulatela.org/en/non-o/

highlight OPs #7 text, and google that, and you be directed to above link.

 

ALTHOUGH ... same site, contradicts itself, and also states 800k, if using this link:

https://thaiconsulatela.org/en/visa/visa-type/non-immigration-category-o-a/

 

????????????

Edited October 26, 2021 by KhunLA

[skorp13]

I have done non o-a marriage there in the past and they required a bank statement from here stating over $700.00. Something has drastically changed?

[tonray]

5 minutes ago, skorp13 said:

I have done non o-a marriage there in the past and they required a bank statement from here stating over $700.00. Something has drastically changed?

O-A Marriage ?

[sqwakvfr]

If this is mistake then it is still on the LA Consulate website. I just checked now:

 

7. Applicant must have a bank deposit of
    7.1 no less than 1,200,000 Baht or
    7.2 an income certificate (an original copy) with a monthly income (pension) of not less than 100,000 Baht, or
    7.3 a deposit account plus a monthly income (pension) totaling not less than 1,200,000 Baht.

[ubonjoe]

1 hour ago, skorp13 said:

I have done non o-a marriage there in the past and they required a bank statement from here stating over $700.00. Something has drastically changed?

Nothing has changed. The have wanted the proof of $700 for a long time now that is their equivalent of 20,000 baht that is required for all visa applications (other than OA and OX visas).

[ubonjoe]

24 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

If this is mistake then it is still on the LA Consulate website. I just checked now:

It is certainly a mistake. As written in earlier posts their is another page that shows the correct 800k baht number.

The 1.2 million baht number is for a combination of income and money in the bank to reach 3 million baht for a Non-OX visa.