Popular Post webfact Posted November 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2021 Picture: Manager Pattaya is so desperate for workers that Thais can get up to 700 baht a day just for washing up. November 1st was supposed to be the grand reopening of Thailand and Pattaya was also supposed to be ready for the foreign arrivals. Just one problem - there is a massive staff shortage in the sector and at the hotels, said the eastern seaboard hoteliers' chief. Phisut Sae-khu said this was a good and optimistic time for the tourism industry what with the reopening. But there was just no staff. Picture: Manager He reckoned there was an unwillingness among Thais to return to former jobs as they were adopting a wait and see approach after the pandemic showed signs of abating. Waiting to see if it was worth their while to put in a day's work or just keep riding out the pandemic. This despite the fact that if they do come back they can expect DOUBLE what they earned before - daily rates of 600 - 700 baht as opposed to 350 baht before. The higher rates are as a result of hoteliers and other operators desperately trying to find Thai people to work for them. Manager said that many people had tried to get into other industries unfamiliar to them and this was further adding to the drain. Phisut said that if it continued then operators would have to turn to vaccinated migrants to fill the jobs. That would be especially true in jobs that Thais were "unfamiliar with" - like washing up and cleaning. -- © Copyright ASEAN NOW 2021-11-01 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Get your business in front of millions of customers who read ASEAN NOW with an interest in Thailand every month - email [email protected] for more information 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fangless Posted November 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2021 That amount won't last long once word gets out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bbko Posted November 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2021 Buckle up folks, they will pass the higher salaries onto the customers bill. 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted November 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2021 They suddenly realised that working is................................. Hard work Thaifriendly is much easier bt1000hr 8 1 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko123 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Can't help wondering if any expats would be willing to work for those wages if they were allowed to. Not too proud to do menial work myself, but the snickering and guffawing you'd have to endure from hotel guests would make working anywhere in front of the public intolerably humiliating. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 2 hours ago, webfact said: November 1st was supposed to be the grand reopening of Thailand and Pattaya was also supposed to be ready for the foreign arrivals. Just one problem - there is a massive staff shortage in the sector and at the hotels, said the eastern seaboard hoteliers' chief. Don't worry, there might not be that massive a tourists exodus as predicted...???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pravda Posted November 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2021 I smell bs sorry. I'm sure all the 7/11 staff would jump at the opportunity. 15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Ah yes, the pandemic has awoken people all around the world with most of them now realising that during the lockdowns, that they can actually survive on the basics and not needing to do 8-12 hour shifts per day, 5/7th, sometimes 6/7th of their weekly lives. The shortages will of course push costs up on basically everything, fuel prices already rising, electricity prices already rising, imports already rising, interest rates will be next as inflation starts to show it also rising, wages having remained low for so long, now also starting to rise. Sure are going to be interesting times ahead for some, I just hope for me that I can repeat my last years (Nov20-Oct 21) total living costs to be no more than 10 baht per day, that is the worst it's been for me in the last 6 years when I woke up and said, working is no longer for me, sold up and relocated here, happy days ever since. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mac Mickmanus Posted November 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2021 News next week . 500 000 people from Issan move to Pattaya in the hope of finding work, but due to there being very few tourists , there's little work available and peope are fighting over 300 Baht a day jobs 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mommysboy Posted November 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2021 But if they work they always end up in the same depressing situation, as not working. So, why bother? Yes, 700 baht this month, but as soon as the employers have the upper hand they'll be ditched. And it will be back to square one. Millions, perhaps tens of millions, are now in this poverty cycle. The trials of climate change will also make the pandemic look like a picnic imo. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommysboy Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 25 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said: Ah yes, the pandemic has awoken people all around the world with most of them now realising that during the lockdowns, that they can actually survive on the basics and not needing to do 8-12 hour shifts per day, 5/7th, sometimes 6/7th of their weekly lives. The shortages will of course push costs up on basically everything, fuel prices already rising, electricity prices already rising, imports already rising, interest rates will be next as inflation starts to show it also rising, wages having remained low for so long, now also starting to rise. Sure are going to be interesting times ahead for some, I just hope for me that I can repeat my last years (Nov20-Oct 21) total living costs to be no more than 10 baht per day, that is the worst it's been for me in the last 6 years when I woke up and said, working is no longer for me, sold up and relocated here, happy days ever since. 10 baht a day!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted November 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2021 That's it, when the schools open, the wife's cleaning some dishes 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 2 hours ago, smedly said: They suddenly realised that working is................................. Hard work Thaifriendly is much easier bt1000hr You can expect doubling prices also on TFwith now tourists flocking in .... ????... Normal Thai habit to anticipate a bad economy ..???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rott Posted November 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2021 27 minutes ago, mommysboy said: 10 baht a day!?! Luxury. Well somebody had to say it. 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, 4MyEgo said: Ah yes, the pandemic has awoken people all around the world with most of them now realising that during the lockdowns, that they can actually survive on the basics and not needing to do 8-12 hour shifts per day, 5/7th, sometimes 6/7th of their weekly lives. The shortages will of course push costs up on basically everything, fuel prices already rising, electricity prices already rising, imports already rising, interest rates will be next as inflation starts to show it also rising, wages having remained low for so long, now also starting to rise. Sure are going to be interesting times ahead for some, I just hope for me that I can repeat my last years (Nov20-Oct 21) total living costs to be no more than 10 baht per day, that is the worst it's been for me in the last 6 years when I woke up and said, working is no longer for me, sold up and relocated here, happy days ever since. Does that 10 baht a day include electricity, fuel for a vehicle, food for 3 meals per day, mobile phone usage, internet usage etc? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomyami Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 wage inflation and short supply is an opening up problem everywhere and yes it will be passed on to customers especially in bars and resturants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Liverpool Lou Posted November 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2021 3 hours ago, smedly said: Thaifriendly is much easier bt1000hr Thanks for the tip, that's where you get your income, is it? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 2 hours ago, khunPer said: Don't worry, there might not be that massive a tourists exodus as predicted...???? It's an inflow of tourists that they're expecting, not an exodus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Liverpool Lou Posted November 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Pravda said: I smell bs sorry. Don't apologise, shower. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, 4MyEgo said: The shortages will of course push costs up on basically everything, fuel prices already rising, electricity prices already rising, Where are those commodities "already rising"? I've had no increased electricity rates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrunchWrapSupreme Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Gecko123 said: Can't help wondering if any expats would be willing to work for those wages They'd have to be 1000+ baht a day to compete with the minimum Westerner teaching salary, workers who are still in short supply. I know because one at my school just jumped ship to another for a slight bump in pay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Liverpool Lou Posted November 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, mommysboy said: The trials of climate change will also make the pandemic look like a picnic imo. "The trials of climate change..." ?? Hahahahahaa..... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 42 minutes ago, billd766 said: Does that 10 baht a day include electricity, fuel for a vehicle, food for 3 meals per day, mobile phone usage, internet usage etc? The 10.86 baht to be exact multiplied by 365 days = 3,964 baht to be exact for the year. Yes it includes everything, private health, car, house insurance, food, domestic holidays, school fees, car registration, maintenance, anything and everything you can write down on your daily spent list. I am not on a pension as I am not old enough, so I have to invest my own savings to make money so as to survive here. It's basically a 50/50 split in shares and banks, the banks aren't paying any interest, but that money is there in case the markets collapse and is plan B, the back up plan, albeit it I also use some of it when markets are way down to pick up some cream on the way up. So far it has worked to a T, albeit my savings aren't really growing, but they aren't going down either, so it works for me and hopefully one will be able to realise capital gains when markets settle post pandemic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: Where are those commodities "already rising"? I've had no increased electricity rates. Globally speaking, as was my post. Google electricity rises and you will see what I am talking about, also Thailand will feel the pinch soon. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, mommysboy said: 10 baht a day!?! Returns from investment vs money spent for the last 365 days, or 2,070 baht out per day, less 2,060 baht in per day = 10.86 baht per day to be exact. Not on a pension, having to use own savings to invest to obtain a return that will allow me to survive here as opposed to watching my savings go south, and that was never the plan as out is out, we also need in to counter the out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 25 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said: 39 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: Where are those commodities "already rising"? I've had no increased electricity rates. Globally speaking, as was my post. Google electricity rises and you will see what I am talking about, also Thailand will feel the pinch soon. Fuel and electricity prices are not rising in Thailand. Your post in the Pattaya News Forum didn't suggest that you were referring to global prices as you were commenting on your remarkable living costs in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Pravda said: I smell bs sorry. I'm sure all the 7/11 staff would jump at the opportunity. But they are "unfamiliar with" - washing up and cleaning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pravda Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 57 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: Don't apologise, shower. You need 700 baht? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Pravda said: 59 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: Don't apologise, shower. You need 700 baht? No, why do you ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pravda Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: No, why do you ask? You offered me a shower. Maybe you're desperate for 700 baht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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