Sambora Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Hello, I am reconsidering my storage solution for important documents e.g. Chanote, passport and also cash. Of course a proper safe e.g. CHUBB Safe would work, but I also consider to keep it in a deposit box at Bangkok Bank. I am curious, where do you keep these kind of documents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WhiteBuffaloATM Posted November 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2021 Safe, locked way discretely, at Home, Work or Bank. Never with Lawyers or Agents or Family. Original Chonote can be used by Lawyers or Agents, as a type of “Bearer Bond”, to secure Illicit Loans secured on Chanote Property. Recorded on back of Chanote. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante99 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Bank safety box, pp at home in fireproof box. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KannikaP Posted November 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2021 Also, scan them all and keep up in the cloud, back-ups and USB stick. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post phetphet Posted November 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2021 22 minutes ago, Dante99 said: Bank safety box, pp at home in fireproof box. And Ziploc bag in case of flood. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 The problem with a "safe" especially the hotel room style, is they need anchoring properly or they can just pick up the whole thing and walk away with it.People seldom do that, just like the Hotels do which makes them pretty useless really. The larger safes are formidable and of more use but again should be achored correctly.All that is a non starter for me and frankly , an ugly eyesore. Safe deposit boxes are the best bet if you can get one, they are not readily available in many areas. You can of course use a fireproof box and hide that in the house somewhere camouflaged or hidden in plain sight. ???? Lots of things available these days that are not what they appear to be. Whatever makes "you" sleep better at night or when you travel away for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KannikaP Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 My Passport and Bank Books are in the left-hand top drawer in my office, and the Chanotes belong to the Mrs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) 46 minutes ago, KannikaP said: Also, scan them all and keep up in the cloud, back-ups and USB stick. Do you think that cloud is a safe place given the poor security? Hackers can download it. If you lose the chanote, how easy is it to get a new one from the land office? Edited November 1, 2021 by EricTh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KannikaP Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, EricTh said: Do you think that cloud is a safe place given the poor security? Hackers can download it. If you lose the chanote, how easy is it to get a new one from the land office? Don't lose it, and make a few copies. I did not say ONLY on the Cloud. Edited November 1, 2021 by KannikaP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pmbkk Posted November 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2021 Buy a couple of Rottweilers and bury them in a safe under their feeding bowl... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante99 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 12 hours ago, phetphet said: And Ziploc bag in case of flood. Good for many, no flood where I am, third floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 What's different here than home country ? Store in same place you would when there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambora Posted November 2, 2021 Author Share Posted November 2, 2021 9 hours ago, Pmbkk said: Buy a couple of Rottweilers and bury them in a safe under their feeding bowl... That wouldn't work as my condo only allows gold fish as pets, nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 In a safe. I don't want to use a bank safe box here. Yes the safe doesn't weigh a ton, it won't withstand heavy machinery tools but in a neigborhood like ours no professional robbers will break in unnoticed. Only few members of the family know about it. Has not been transported by outsiders. In a room with sturdy window grilles and a robust door with cylinder lock and proper fittings. So no opportunity for petty criminals. Number wheel combination known to me and the daughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvorBiggun2 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I got burgled before I had a chance I to put in window grills. Someone broke in and stole my safe, keeping this short, and it was found 60K+ away in a field. No damage to the door etc as you'd probably expect. They accessed by peeling open the back. Very professional job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pmbkk Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Burglars always say the best place to store valuables is hidden in the loft. That's what I do ...damn, secret out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animalmagic Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Safes are given ratings dependent on resistance to a torch or tool attack to open them. These ratings are guaranteed by an accredited and internationally recognised agency. Most reputable safes will have details given with them to show how long they will provide protection against burglars or fire, if they don't have this certification don't buy them. It all depends on how much time you can afford to pay for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) I have mine hidden in the ceiling , the biggest deterrent to your average burglar is time, they want to be in and out as quickly as possible, so you make it as hard as possible for them to find valuables. I have 3 of those small hotel type safes bolted to the walls above the ceiling, in different places in the house, they have to look up there , why would they, but if they found one, they would need to find ladders, and the tools that most burglars carry with them ,would not be enough to detach them. I feel that's about as much as I can do, I leave a couple 1000 Bhat in plain sight, so hopefully they would just grab that and leave. The burglars here don't seem to be as vicious and nasty as some back in the UK, who will destroy your house and <deleted> on your floor for good measure. Regards Worgeordie why does it come out like this, not the way I typed it ? Edited November 4, 2021 by worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barley Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 These ratings are not internationally recognized but by country. In the United States f. e. by Underwriter Laboratory (UL). The ratings by the labs differ widely between countries. If you want a serious safe, I would recommend a safe of at least 200kg, 300 would be better. Ceramic safes are lighter and more heat (fire & torch) resistant, but more expensive. Concrete safes are heavier and cheaper. Don't mind the torch ratings too much, since most professionals would use a Flex. Combination and key (get a foldable & detachable one you can carry with you in a tiny leather pouch on your key ring) is the safest combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paahlman Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 On 11/1/2021 at 12:17 PM, phetphet said: And Ziploc bag in case of flood. This is true.., but also a recipe for disaster.. The humidiy and heat will eat it inside plastic.. Put it in a ziploc inside the freezer... Joking.. Laminating would work, but not advisable. A dry safe is probably the only way to go.. At least not in the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barley Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 10 minutes ago, worgeordie said: I have mine hidden in the ceiling , the biggest deterrent to your average burglar is time, they want to be in and out as quickly as possible, so you make it as hard as possible for them to find valuables. I have 3 of those small hotel type safes bolted to the walls above the ceiling, in different places in the house, they have to look up there , why would they, but if they found one, they would need to find ladders, and the tools that most burglars carry with them ,would not be enough to detach them. I feel that's about as much as I can do, I leave a couple 1000 Bhat in plain sight, so hopefully they would just grab that and leave. Yes, decoy safes that are easy to find and a hidden real one are a very effective security measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barley Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, paahlman said: A dry safe is probably the only way to go.. Yes, good point. I am using this: https://s.lazada.co.th/s.fIVQQ A canvas bag in the safe filled with dry uncooked rice would also do the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazykopite Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 A fire safe bolted to both the wall and floor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazykopite Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) Burmese python would be an excellent deterrent just put a message in Thai on the windows of your property 99% of Thais would cr@p themselves Edited November 4, 2021 by crazykopite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malt25 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 On 11/2/2021 at 1:46 AM, Pmbkk said: Buy a couple of Rottweilers and bury them in a safe under their feeding bowl... "Rottweilers and bury them in a safe under their feeding bowl" Bury the Rotties in a safe ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 I just keep all my valuables in my pants and sock draw.... passports, watches, title deed, currency, permanent residence etc If someone can be bothered to try and get into my condo, past reception, up the lifts etc- then good luck to them. I refuse to overly worry about things like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropposurfer Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 I have a fireproof Chubb safe built in (smart wired to my phone, concrete in), hidden, with 'secret button panel' entry. It was fun getting this designed and made too ☺️. It would take James bl..dy Bond to find it, then Houdini to open it. Not so over the top considering what it contains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieAus Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 On 11/2/2021 at 11:35 AM, KhunBENQ said: In a safe. I don't want to use a bank safe box here. Yes the safe doesn't weigh a ton, it won't withstand heavy machinery tools but in a neigborhood like ours no professional robbers will break in unnoticed. Only few members of the family know about it. Has not been transported by outsiders. In a room with sturdy window grilles and a robust door with cylinder lock and proper fittings. So no opportunity for petty criminals. Number wheel combination known to me and the daughter. After reading your post I have decided that I am no longer paranoid about security only seriously concerned. !!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pravda Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Use FedEx and mail it to your mom in Kent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2here Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) I use a traditional bank deposit box. I can also specify who can have access. So the mere fact of having a key doesn’t automatically grant a key holder access. They are all climate controlled as well. Downside is that you only have access during bank days/hours and only the larger branches have them (so not the best idea if you might need ready or unplanned immediate access). Fee wise, it doesn’t appear to be expensive (around 1500/yr for smallest box) but can be free/included with some of the banks higher level banking packages (ie KBank Wisdom etc) i also store some valuables like a classic Rolex and a star sapphire.. because i choose to store it using a professional storage solution, my insurer cuts the loss/ theft premium substantially. Edited November 4, 2021 by new2here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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