Thammasat abandons plan to get 1.5m doses of donated vaccine from Poland

[snoop1130]

 

The Thammasat University field hospital has abandoned its plan to accept a donation of 1.5 million doses of the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine from Poland. The university has failed to obtain an official letter, from the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs, confirming its status as the Thai government’s official representative for receipt of the vaccine donation.

 

The field hospital said in its update yesterday (Monday) that it had made all the preparations to facilitate the delivery of the vaccine from Poland, including logistic expenses, such as booking a flight from Poland on October 28th, freight, insurance and storage, as required by the donor, which also requires a formal confirmation from a Thai government agency that Thammasat University is the official representative for the receipt of the vaccine.

 

The hospital said that it had contacted the Thai Foreign Ministry in Bangkok, requesting a formal letter to confirm its status, adding that it had informed the ministry that all the expenses for the delivery of the donated vaccine would be borne by the university.

 

Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thammasat-abandons-plan-to-get-1-5m-doses-of-donated-vaccine-from-poland/

 

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[ThailandRyan]

Sad, that this government isn't a "All hands on deck" government but instead a " in it for ourselves" government. The prayut government does not want to be upstaged by anyone it appears.

[Bkk Brian]

1.5 million free doses of life saving vaccine, now available to a country needing them and willing to do some paperwork to get them

[ukrules]

All that matters is the paperwork.

 

Without the paperwork and the rubber stamps, nothing happens, ever.

[fangless]

Those pesky missing and or empty brown envelopes again I suspect!

[petermik]

Absolute disgrace.......

[hamdan5485]

What a pity really

 

[internationalism]

if it was chula royal academy it would be rubber stamped in one day, even without knowledge of the health ministry (as was the case with sinopharm in june).

another 1mln of donated pfizer is being wasted in the USA warehouse, because thai foreign ministry is not keen on cooperation.

surely, there are more deserving countries in the world, than the government based on military junta

 

Edited November 2, 2021 by internationalism

[HOAX]

Unbelievable ????‍♂️

[Artisi]

36 minutes ago, ukrules said:

All that matters is the paperwork.

 

Without the paperwork and the rubber stamps, nothing happens, ever.

Seems if is rubber gloves, it's instant action. 

[Artisi]

22 minutes ago, HOAX said:

Unbelievable ????‍♂️

No, this is fully understood, it's Thailand at its best. 

Couldn't organise a drunks party in a brewery. 

Edited November 2, 2021 by Artisi

[welshguy]

Shameful, absolutely shameful.

 

 

[richard_smith237]

47 minutes ago, fangless said:

Those pesky missing and or empty brown envelopes again I suspect!

Exactly this... 

 

Someone in a position of ‘decision making power’ is simply outright refusing to ‘approve’ this until he receives his rightful back-hander....  in Thailand (along with many countries) no one is in these positions without the expectation to profit through graft, its so common they target these positions with a sense of entitlement towards the back-handers.... 

 

It's disgusting and hopefully, now that the media are aware of this ‘the person’ blocking this charitable deal will be embarrassed into doing the right thing...

 

......From the Hub of Misunderstandings.....  it was all a misunderstanding... 

 

 

Edited November 2, 2021 by richard_smith237

[RichardColeman]

Any other country this would be another nail is the running governments next election hopes - here though, it's a kind of 'Meh , whatever' attitude to the populace

[worrab]

This story should be released to the world press so everyone can see the low regard this Government has towards its population! Absolutely disgraceful that brown envelopes should be involved yet again whilst Thailand still suffers with Covid. 

[greenmonkey]

My God... I mean seriously... what will it take before the Thais say 'enough is enough'!???

[engamann]

1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said:

Sad, that this government isn't a "All hands on deck" government but instead a " in it for ourselves" government. The prayut government does not want to be upstaged by anyone it appears.

I don't think you can name one thing this General Prayut have done good for Thailand , in the history books him will be named as the biggest clown ever run a country , this man could not even fix the lottery prices like was the first thing on his agenda after him steal the power.

[AwwYesNice1]

Sufficiency Economy. 

[billd766]

1 hour ago, ukrules said:

All that matters is the paperwork.

 

Without the paperwork and the rubber stamps, nothing happens, ever.

As my line manager said to me once.

 

JFDI and we will sort the paperwork out later.

 

It works every time, even in Thailand, except where the government is concerned.

[fangless]

37 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

its so common they target these positions with a sense of entitlement towards the back-handers.... 

Some don't just target these positions they buy them!

[RafPinto]

I just sent a few of them by special delivery to Poland.

 

Should resolve the problem fast.

[Puccini]

It is a misunderstanding, respectively a lack of knowledge about the documentary procedure involved here.

 

From the news article linked to in the OP:

Quote

The ministry informed the hospital that, in accordance with regulations announced in the Royal Gazette, the hospital could proceed with the case on its own and should consult with the Disease Control Department directly.

The Polish government wanted an "official letter, from the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs, confirming its status as the Thai government’s official representative for receipt of the vaccine donation" and the MFA told the hospital that the correct procedure was that the hospital "should consult with the Disease Control Department directly"

 

Since the authority to confirm Thamasat's "status as the Thai government’s official representative for receipt of the vaccine donation" apparently lies with the Disease Control Department (DCP), Thammasat should have proceeded as follows:

 

1. Apply to the DCT for the letter.

 

2. If and when the letter is given, have the signature on the letter "legalised" by the MFA.

 

2. Next, have the signature of the MFA official legalised by the Polish consul in Thailand.

 

3. Finally, send this document to the Polish government.

Edited November 2, 2021 by Puccini

[Pib]

Way to go Thailand....don't you dare accept 1.5M doses of donated Moderna vaccine as that might impact your ability to use up all the Sinovac vaccine you ordered.  

[BangkokReady]

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

here though, it's a kind of 'Meh , whatever' attitude to the populace

Because corruption is endemic to Thailand and runs from top to bottom, from the high-profile to the mundane.

[DrPhibes]

45 minutes ago, Puccini said:

It is a misunderstanding, respectively a lack of knowledge about the documentary procedure involved here.

 

From the news article linked to in the OP:

The Polish government wanted an "official letter, from the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs, confirming its status as the Thai government’s official representative for receipt of the vaccine donation" and the MFA told the hospital that the correct procedure was that the hospital "should consult with the Disease Control Department directly"

 

Since the authority to confirm Thamasat's "status as the Thai government’s official representative for receipt of the vaccine donation" apparently lies with the Disease Control Department (DCP), Thammasat should have proceeded as follows:

 

1. Apply to the DCT for the letter.

 

2. If and when the letter is given, have the signature on the letter "legalised" by the MFA.

 

2. Next, have the signature of the MFA official legalised by the Polish consul in Thailand.

 

3. Finally, send this document to the Polish government.

All this potato potaato paperwork s--t when 1.5 million free Moderna vaccines are involved is just mind numbing!

[worrab]

45 minutes ago, Puccini said:

It is a misunderstanding, respectively a lack of knowledge about the documentary procedure involved here.

 

From the news article linked to in the OP:

The Polish government wanted an "official letter, from the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs, confirming its status as the Thai government’s official representative for receipt of the vaccine donation" and the MFA told the hospital that the correct procedure was that the hospital "should consult with the Disease Control Department directly"

 

Since the authority to confirm Thamasat's "status as the Thai government’s official representative for receipt of the vaccine donation" apparently lies with the Disease Control Department (DCP), Thammasat should have proceeded as follows:

 

1. Apply to the DCT for the letter.

 

2. If and when the letter is given, have the signature on the letter "legalised" by the MFA.

 

2. Next, have the signature of the MFA official legalised by the Polish consul in Thailand.

 

3. Finally, send this document to the Polish government.

I like your reply and you may well be correct. But why was this knowledge not known by the relevant parties involved? It seems to me that there was still intentions to hold this process up as much as possible unless the greasing of palms was carried out! Absolutely no excuse for allowing this to happen!!

 

[herfiehandbag]

It is quite simply disgraceful.

 

Not shameful, because the self important, self entitled, corrupt, mendacious oxygen thieves behind this have no concept of shame.

 

Simply disgraceful!

[ikke1959]

Again shows the Government its incompetence........

[RafPinto]

2 hours ago, Puccini said:

It is a misunderstanding, respectively a lack of knowledge about the documentary procedure involved here.

 

From the news article linked to in the OP:

The Polish government wanted an "official letter, from the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs, confirming its status as the Thai government’s official representative for receipt of the vaccine donation" and the MFA told the hospital that the correct procedure was that the hospital "should consult with the Disease Control Department directly"

 

Since the authority to confirm Thamasat's "status as the Thai government’s official representative for receipt of the vaccine donation" apparently lies with the Disease Control Department (DCP), Thammasat should have proceeded as follows:

 

1. Apply to the DCT for the letter.

 

2. If and when the letter is given, have the signature on the letter "legalised" by the MFA.

 

2. Next, have the signature of the MFA official legalised by the Polish consul in Thailand.

 

3. Finally, send this document to the Polish government.

I just prepared one:

 

Subject: Donation of 1,5 million Moderna vaccines

 

To whom it may concern,

 

In the name of ....... we want to express how grateful we are for your generous offer but in our culture, there  is always a donation to the people in charge as well.

We would reconsider your donation but please fill the "brown envelopes which will be send by special courier in due course" and let us know, how much you want to donate to the "decision makers".

 

Kind regards,

 

Khun Brown Envelope

[Artisi]

3 hours ago, RafPinto said:

I just sent a few of them by special delivery to Poland.

 

Should resolve the problem fast.

Actually it seems to be @®$& up, shouldn't it be Poland collecting the funds for being big hearted and facilitating the "free" donation? 

 

It would be a world first, the hub of the universe paying someone else instead of receiving a back-hander for the  supply of something.