Omicron Will Arrive, Vaccination Urged – Official

[Tonypandy]

6 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Unfortunately they are dying of something

https://twitter.com/sugan2503/status/1466507046564646921

 

96 deaths, in the same 14 day period the UK had over 1,600 deaths.

[Jeffr2]

1 minute ago, Tonypandy said:

96 deaths, in the same 14 day period the UK had over 1,600 deaths.

What's your point?

[Tonypandy]

13 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

What you say doesn't make any sense.

If you take off your blinkers it does 

[Bkk Brian]

6 minutes ago, Tonypandy said:

96 deaths, in the same 14 day period the UK had over 1,600 deaths.

96 deaths for one day but regardless this is not about the delta wave in the UK it is about the Omicron wave in SA. Catch up a little mate

[Tonypandy]

27 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

What's your point?

That means you don't understand 

[Jeffr2]

37 minutes ago, Tonypandy said:

If you take off your blinkers it does 

No blinkers.  You're trying to compare apples to oranges.  Stay focused.

[Jeffr2]

12 minutes ago, Tonypandy said:

That means you don't understand 

Articulate better and I will.

[ozimoron]

10 hours ago, Tonypandy said:

And there is no evidence that it doesn't break through the vaccine. None. The vaccine doesn't keep people out of hospital or from potentially dying, there is no proof it helps reduce the transmission. If there is then prove it. Your not already aware of this. 

The evidence has been posted here literally dozens of times but the anti-vaxers want to keep lying about it.

[jossthaifarang]

This one operates through bluetooth and wifi, were all <deleted>@ked!! Nothing we can do Its already here, you heard the man... 

 

I'm so sick of tip toeing around this <deleted>!!!

[Tonypandy]

13 hours ago, ozimoron said:

The evidence has been posted here literally dozens of times but the anti-vaxers want to keep lying about it.

Evidence is not a pro vaxer simply posting a response here just stating what they want to be read. There is much hesitancy due to lies from western governments. 

[Jeffr2]

13 minutes ago, Tonypandy said:

Evidence is not a pro vaxer simply posting a response here just stating what they want to be read. There is much hesitancy due to lies from western governments. 

You mean lies from social media sites and dodgy news outlets.  But yes, some due to lies from governments.  Russia is a great example of this.  Few there trust their government.

[ozimoron]

59 minutes ago, Tonypandy said:

Evidence is not a pro vaxer simply posting a response here just stating what they want to be read. There is much hesitancy due to lies from western governments. 

The evidence did not come from governments but from authoritive medical institutions. If you had bothered to read the links you would be aware of that. I think it's really time for the anti vaxxers to put up evidence which contradicts that medical evidence or shut up.

[Tonypandy]

3 hours ago, ozimoron said:

The evidence did not come from governments but from authoritive medical institutions. If you had bothered to read the links you would be aware of that. I think it's really time for the anti vaxxers to put up evidence which contradicts that medical evidence or shut up.

There wasn't any links, please show

[Tonypandy]

4 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

You mean lies from social media sites and dodgy news outlets.  But yes, some due to lies from governments.  Russia is a great example of this.  Few there trust their government.

I was thinking more MSM to be honest. 

[peter zwart]

Was it already clear if the vaccin works against this variant?

[Luton]

On 12/4/2021 at 8:19 AM, Jeffr2 said:

You'll have to put up a credible link to prove this. Otherwise....a terrible conspiracy theory.

Start with this one Jeffr2....then follow up for more information to inform yourself. In the meantime I would like to say that debate is healthy and closed minds are not helpful.....Best to you.

 

https://agrdailynews.com/2021/12/04/the-vaids-pandemic-vaccine-acquired-immunodeficiency-syndrome-new-moral-order/

[Danderman123]

12 hours ago, Luton said:

Start with this one Jeffr2....then follow up for more information to inform yourself. In the meantime I would like to say that debate is healthy and closed minds are not helpful.....Best to you.

 

https://agrdailynews.com/2021/12/04/the-vaids-pandemic-vaccine-acquired-immunodeficiency-syndrome-new-moral-order/

Worthless link. 

 

The human immune system often requires multiple vaccinations for a disease. My tetanus shot from ten years ago has worn off now. 

 

Common. 

[Danderman123]

22 hours ago, Tonypandy said:

Evidence is not a pro vaxer simply posting a response here just stating what they want to be read. There is much hesitancy due to lies from western governments. 

Hesitency is mostly due to gullibility of people paying attention to conspiracy theories spread by future Herman Cain award winners. 

[Danderman123]

On 12/6/2021 at 4:06 PM, Tonypandy said:

If you mean some government scientist or doctor saying it reduces transmission, but plenty of non government scientists/doctors saying the opposite. I suppose we are only supposed to listen to the government paid ones, anything else is misinformation. 

Link, please. 

[Danderman123]

On 12/5/2021 at 1:46 PM, stephenterry said:

I think you are mislead, so please supply the source of this statistic - which, IMO, is total rubbish.

Based on evidence from clinical trials, in people ages 18 years and older, the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine was 94.1% effective at preventing laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 infection in people who received two doses and had no evidence of being previously infected.

[Danderman123]

On 12/5/2021 at 1:02 PM, stephenterry said:

Yes, but there are cheaper drugs that today's hospitals use and anyone could also use at home, if they have not been banned. Anti-depressants, that are anti-inflammatory, also work well. In fact, any tried and tested medicine  - or food - that causes an anti-inflammatory response, works.

 

The truth is that Western humans are generally not healthy owing, in the main, to a processed fast food dietary regime, and suffer from a range of illnesses. Obesity and diabetes are most common. These people need a vax to boost their immune system.

 

Western governments who are dead scared that they could let peope die en-masse look to these Vaxxes as a future blame 'get out of jail' free card. Thus Big Pharma, instead of promoting cheap effective drugs produce these highly expensive vaxxes to increase their profits.   

 

 

You seem like a misinformed person. 

 

While it is true that anti-inflammatory drugs have some benefit in reducing symptoms from Covid, you don't seem to understand how Covid can attack even young healthy individuals.