Marriage at 17

[jackdd]

Through Google I already figured out that marriage in Thailand is legal if both persons are at least 17 years old.

But two things which I couldn't figure out:

Does marriage under 18 require the consent by the parents?

If a 17 year old gets married, does this then make him/her legally an adult, so the parents can no longer decide where the person stays etc.?

[BritManToo]

You need a judge's permission to get married at 13.

[nikmar]

strange that you can get married and, presumably, have kids before you can vote or have a beer.

[MikeyIdea]

Yes, they can marry at the age of 17 but all legal guardians must give their consent. This normally only happens if the girl is pregnant. Most Thai's won't worry about it, they do a local marriage and don't register it legally, or register it after they reach majority. 

 

Yes, they reach majority = legally an adult regardless of age when they marry

 

   

[mvdf]

19 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

You need a judge's permission to get married at 13.

That there's even such an option is a dark and disturbing thought.

[MikeyIdea]

30 minutes ago, mvdf said:

That there's even such an option is a dark and disturbing thought.

This law is almost never used but it helps if you understand that IF the law is ever used, it is to protect the child (in Thailand).

 

The same option exists in some western countries. Other western countries implement it differently. There, you petition the court to reach majority instead (not linked to marriage). The reason is the same => it gives the underage parent the right to exercise parental rights for their child (that lies with the parents of the underage parent otherwise). 

[bojo]

To marry at the Amphur under the age of 18, consent by both parents required or death certificate of deceased parent if not around anymore.........................

[MikeyIdea]

59 minutes ago, nikmar said:

strange that you can get married and, presumably, have kids before you can vote or have a beer.

No, that is common in some western countries too => vote when you're 18 but buy alcohol when you're 20 or 21. There are laws for sexual intercourse but generally no laws for when you're allowed to have children. 

[animalmagic]

On 12/10/2021 at 7:43 AM, MikeyIdea said:

This law is almost never used but it helps if you understand that IF the law is ever used, it is to protect the child (in Thailand).

I'm not really sure how a law, IF used, allowing Judges to give permission to marry at 13 actually protects the child.

[1FinickyOne]

On 12/10/2021 at 7:07 AM, BritManToo said:

You need a judge's permission to get married at 13.

After 18 you should need a judge and jury.

[oznomad]

Marriage before 60 should be illegal

[bbko]

Hanging around the High Schools?

[Harveyboy]

11 minutes ago, oznomad said:

Marriage before 60 should be illegal

ive found that out 3 times  ha

[ThailandRyan]

On 12/10/2021 at 8:33 AM, MikeyIdea said:

No, that is common in some western countries too => vote when you're 18 but buy alcohol when you're 20 or 21. There are laws for sexual intercourse but generally no laws for when you're allowed to have children. 

Ergo, join the Military, go and fight a war for your country, and yet you can not buy alcohol off base.

[Liverpool Lou]

On 12/10/2021 at 7:19 AM, nikmar said:

strange that you can get married and, presumably, have kids before you can vote or have a beer.

Just like every other country, with parental consent.

[Liverpool Lou]

8 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Ergo, join the Military, go and fight a war for your country, and yet you can not buy alcohol off base.

...that's just the US for you!  You can in most reasonable countries.

[worldexpress]

On 12/9/2021 at 6:19 PM, nikmar said:

strange that you can get married and, presumably, have kids before you can vote or have a beer.

It's a crazy world. Kids can be sent to fight a war straight out of high school before they can do any of that.

[connda]

On 12/10/2021 at 7:07 AM, BritManToo said:

You need a judge's permission to get married at 13.

If it's a Sharia judge then Akbar's your uncle!  ????

[connda]

2 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Ergo, join the Military, go and fight a war for your country, and yet you can not buy alcohol off base.

But you can buy beer and watered down drinks in the NCO club. 
Personally, I feel anyone who is in the military should be given full adult rights and privileges.

[Tropposurfer]

On 12/10/2021 at 11:19 AM, nikmar said:

strange that you can get married and, presumably, have kids before you can vote or have a beer.

We aint' in Kansas anymore Totto

[The Hammer2021]

On 12/10/2021 at 7:19 AM, nikmar said:

strange that you can get married and, presumably, have kids before you can vote or have a beer.

Why?

[MikeyIdea]

6 hours ago, animalmagic said:

I'm not really sure how a law, IF used, allowing Judges to give permission to marry at 13 actually protects the child.

It's easy to understand actually. If the mother is a minor, the child of that mother is the "property" of the legal guardian, often the grandmother in Thailand. What if the grandmother is an alcoholic or criminal? 

 

There's good and bad in everthing. Thailand prioritizes the child and won't allow it unless it's necessary to protect the child (and its never been used for anyone under the age of 15). Western countries prioritize the rights of the underage mother so an immature underage mother can become a legal guardian also if the grandmother would have been more suitable for a few years while the mother mature

[cardinalblue]

Illogical law that due to marriage they can legally become an adult b/f age 18….

 

if anyone, their judgement is even more impaired and possess immature decision making

[animalmagic]

16 hours ago, MikeyIdea said:

It's easy to understand actually. If the mother is a minor, the child of that mother is the "property" of the legal guardian, often the grandmother in Thailand. What if the grandmother is an alcoholic or criminal? 

 

There's good and bad in everthing. Thailand prioritizes the child and won't allow it unless it's necessary to protect the child (and its never been used for anyone under the age of 15). Western countries prioritize the rights of the underage mother so an immature underage mother can become a legal guardian also if the grandmother would have been more suitable for a few years while the mother mature

For 'property' I hope you meant responsibility?

Following your logic the 13 year old (child) mother and her child both become the property/responsibility of a man if the marriage is allowed.  Nope, still not seeing how marriage at 13, or even 15 as has been allowed, protects any child.

[MikeyIdea]

2 hours ago, animalmagic said:

For 'property' I hope you meant responsibility?

Following your logic the 13 year old (child) mother and her child both become the property/responsibility of a man if the marriage is allowed.  Nope, still not seeing how marriage at 13, or even 15 as has been allowed, protects any child.

Your choice 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 12/10/2021 at 1:28 PM, mvdf said:

That there's even such an option is a dark and disturbing thought.

Never lived in Saudi Arabia then.

 

https://stepfeed.com/saudi-arabia-officially-bans-child-marriages-under-18-with-one-loophole-6406

This new decision follows an earlier law that was revealed in January of this year and which bans the marriage of children under 15 years old. Prior to the latter, Saudi Arabia did not have a minimum legal age for marriage.