SURVEY: Will the night life entertainment return? When?

[The Hammer2021]

13 minutes ago, david555 said:

????

My comment seems to make the voting happen as  now the votes are high enough  comparing the  comments ...????

 

I guess Th.Gov. take the Covid opportunity to decimate at least a big part  the Pattaya nightlife , in favor for their planned " family oriented resort " (???? ) and shift night life to Bangkok area ....

Not Bangkok. That finished years ago. The move to Soi Buakhao and LKM is more likely

[garyk]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Maybe a question to people who travel a little more.

Is there anything like Thai go-go bars anywhere else on the planet?

I don't travel much. But when I was in neighboring countries I found bars with bees and girls but nothing even near to Thai go-go bars.

I don't know how many people only like go-go bars compared to other places. But I am sure there are enough of us to fill a couple of bars.

I'm in Colombia, Just left Cali, Bogota. Bogota red light district in certain areas are totally open. Totally nude dancing, call girls 25 dollars for 1-2 hours. Anything goes no restrictions, drugs, drinks you name it. But, it is dangerous if alone. One thing about Asia is it is safer for the lone tourist IMO. Personally I have never been to places like this where drugs are legal and sold pretty openly. Totally nude dancing , not like the go-go bars in Thailand. 

Personally it is not my thing, but while in Bogota I made friends with a security guard at the hotel I was staying and he showed me the underbelly of total unrestricted deviant sides of the big city. I lived in Thailand and all the countries around there and thought I had seen it all. I was MISTAKEN.

 

I am a nature and travel guy. And in my years in Thailand the places i found the most crazy was on the border with Malaysia. Deep south. Personally if I were into that that is where I would head if in Thailand.

 

Edited December 12, 2021 by garyk

[OneMoreFarang]

56 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Whiskey & Go Go?  Is that a misspelling or a trade mark issue?

You tink to mut. ???? 

[david555]

36 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Not Bangkok. That finished years ago. The move to Soi Buakhao and LKM is more likely

It seems a bankokian farang is confused with your reply on my post Bkk red district finished long ago....????

He can know i guess ????

Edited December 12, 2021 by david555

[david555]

15 minutes ago, david555 said:

It seems a bankokian farang is confused with your reply on my post Bkk red district finished long ago....????

He can know i guess ????

 

Edited December 12, 2021 by david555

[djayz]

As long as they have hundreds of thousands (millions?) of uneducated, underpaid, unskilled and unmotivated people and families who rely solely on this as a source of income, it will never, ever end. 

For the past few months I have thought about just how many young women out in rural Thailand are desperately waiting to board a bus to BKK, Pattaya or Phuket so they can earn some money again. 

Edited December 12, 2021 by djayz

[1FinickyOne]

2 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

Now that Omicron (Covid 2) has found a way to not kill it's host, Omicron will end the pandemic and this will end up as a flu or a cold,

or mutate to a way that will kill its host.. who knows? 

[1FinickyOne]

4 minutes ago, djayz said:

As long as they have hundreds of thousands (millions?) of uneducated, underpaid, unskilled and unmotivated people and families who rely solely on this as a source of income, it will never, ever end. 

For the past few months I have thought about just how many young women out in rural Thailand are desperately waiting to board a bus to BKK, Pattaya or Phuket so they can earn some money again. 

Thai people mostly live in the moment and returning to work as before may be a distant thought.. more so than you think. And there are other sources of income back in the villages. They may open small farms or businesses and get involved in that...

 

You are looking only from the lens of a person who used to see many and now not... 

[daveAustin]

D. There will always be prostitution in Thailand but the government will push it underground/out of ‘sight’. People that think it’ll pop right back like it was before are overlooking the army’s agenda. They couldn’t care less about the plight of the poor and want total change. It’s all face.  

[djayz]

11 minutes ago, 1FinickyOne said:

Thai people mostly live in the moment and returning to work as before may be a distant thought.. more so than you think. And there are other sources of income back in the villages. They may open small farms or businesses and get involved in that...

 

You are looking only from the lens of a person who used to see many and now not... 

That may well be the case, but from where I'm sitting all I see is that either every Tom, Dick and Harry in every village has opened a shop, cafe, etc. and nobody is making any money at it or those who once worked in those entertainment businesses now sleep all day in hammocks and have absolutely nothing to do and don't have a pot to pi$$ in. 

 

It is unrealistic to expect so many unskilled, under qualified people to make a living doing anything else. I feel sorry for a nation where it is more profitable to lie on your back than it is to do an honest day's work. 

[OneMoreFarang]

51 minutes ago, djayz said:

As long as they have hundreds of thousands (millions?) of uneducated, underpaid, unskilled and unmotivated people and families who rely solely on this as a source of income, it will never, ever end. 

For the past few months I have thought about just how many young women out in rural Thailand are desperately waiting to board a bus to BKK, Pattaya or Phuket so they can earn some money again. 

It seems many Thais are flexible and they work depending on the opportunities.

And if one opportunity is to dance a little and make in a few days what others make in a month then that is obviously an attractive opportunity. But if that opportunity does not exist at that time then many Thais seem to be pragmatic and take what they can get. After all, food and bills have to be paid.

[OneMoreFarang]

3 minutes ago, djayz said:

It is unrealistic to expect so many unskilled, under qualified people to make a living doing anything else. I feel sorry for a nation where it is more profitable to lie on your back than it is to do an honest day's work.

I don't have a statistic but it seems many girls have not such a bad education. Some have university degrees. But what is 20k per month if they can make 100k? (some of them)

[BangkokReady]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

You tink to mut. ???? 

Probably not the thing that should grab my attention when watching that video. ???? ????‍♂️

[herfiehandbag]

3 hours ago, Percy P said:

But there no tax on prostitution so the government doesn't lose out

Leaving aside the policemen who seem to come around "collecting their dues" on a regular basis ..

[4MyEgo]

2 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said:

or mutate to a way that will kill its host.. who knows? 

I think that is unlikely as Delta is and was doing that, now that it has found a way to mutate to Omicron, I believe it has tweaked it's way to where it wants to be, in the host to spread it to others as opposed to dying with the host, you know go around every season like the flu etc.

 

The above said, when the next Cornona virus Sars Covid 3 does eventually come our way, I think we will be gone, that or it will take out 40% of us if it's a lethal one, but with technology and better systems in place we might end up beating it, at least we can hope because we didn't beat it this time, vaccines and all, it found it's way to live with us and spread as Omicron.

[Gsxrnz]

4 hours ago, Percy P said:

 

The amount of unlaundered money must be getting huge by now and one of the necessary requirements of legitimizing laundered money is that the tax man gets his share.

[djayz]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

It seems many Thais are flexible and they work depending on the opportunities.

And if one opportunity is to dance a little and make in a few days what others make in a month then that is obviously an attractive opportunity. But if that opportunity does not exist at that time then many Thais seem to be pragmatic and take what they can get. After all, food and bills have to be paid.

My point exactly. 

[1FinickyOne]

2 hours ago, djayz said:

That may well be the case, but from where I'm sitting all I see is that either every Tom, Dick and Harry in every village has opened a shop, cafe, etc. and nobody is making any money at it or those who once worked in those entertainment businesses now sleep all day in hammocks and have absolutely nothing to do and don't have a pot to pi$$ in. 

 

It is unrealistic to expect so many unskilled, under qualified people to make a living doing anything else. I feel sorry for a nation where it is more profitable to lie on your back than it is to do an honest day's work. 

Sorry that you so vastly underestimate so many people... there are ways to make a living in a village or upcountry city... 

 

Are there nations where ladies of the night don't make an outsized living? I have heard of ladies in USA getting $4-5,000 for a GF experience... I don't know of going rates but I think many ladies here will get more than a doctor for a short time... 

 

And from recent posts on this forum, it seems many of the punters are the ones w/o a pot to pi$$ in... 

 

How familiar are you with upcountry villages? We have many Nit, Noy and Lek - no Tom, Dick and Harry... 

[Sir Dude]

The killjoy squad, which the PM is a fully signed-up member of, don't want it. It will return, but under oppressive conditions until they realise they really do need it... that may take some time for the penny to drop with the puritanical brigade.

[GrandPapillon]

6 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Find out for yourself

jesus, too many familiar faces in that video ????

 

I think I could name them all by their first name and number ????

 

[MarcelV]

8 hours ago, Callmeishmael said:

It was already changing to be more Chinese - Thai style.  Fewer open bars with cute, brown Isaan girls, more discreet closed buildings with 'white' northern girls that appeal to Asian tastes.

Also, as Chewit pointed out, prostitution is moving online, rather than have to go to a bar and talk to a bunch of old men, the girls will just check their phones once in a while to see if they have any new customers.

The Chinese prefer to bring over their own girls. Dannok was full of PRC girls before Covid hit.

[MarcelV]

6 hours ago, garyk said:

 

I am a nature and travel guy. And in my years in Thailand the places i found the most crazy was on the border with Malaysia. Deep south. Personally if I were into that that is where I would head if in Thailand.

 

I have lived in that area of Thailand, the Muslim Deep South, for over five years. Besides a few crazy towns the rest of the region is quite normal and boring. Those nightlife enclaves like Betong, S.Kolok, where I do my immigration duties, and Dannok are all dead as a dodo now. Haven't been to Dannok in years myself but the few vlogs I saw about it showed it to be totally abandoned. Happy partying! ????

[djayz]

3 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said:

How familiar are you with upcountry villages?

I live slap bang in the middle of one. You? 

3 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said:

there are ways to make a living in a village

After having lived in a small village in the NE for 5+ years, I know this to be pure and utter waffle. There is very little money in the villages and many people trying to get a share of it. Simple math: very little divided by many = very, very little per head. 

 

3 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said:

many ladies here will get more than a doctor for a short time

The women here who make more than a doctor are very, very few and far, far between. The fact alone that you believe "many" women here make more than a doctor, tells me all that I need to know about your vast, indept experience of the shady areas of life here.  

 

 

I was not trying to insult the country folk, but the vast majority of them have (want?) very little. Working in the entertainment business is quick, "easy" money which keeps many families afloat. 

 

Edited December 12, 2021 by djayz

[Chris.B]

11 hours ago, Callmeishmael said:

It was already changing to be more Chinese - Thai style.  Fewer open bars with cute, brown Isaan girls, more discreet closed buildings with 'white' northern girls that appeal to Asian tastes.

Also, as Chewit pointed out, prostitution is moving online, rather than have to go to a bar and talk to a bunch of old men, the girls will just check their phones once in a while to see if they have any new customers.

How do you know all of this?  ????

 

[sezze]

It will change , like everything changes . What will remain is , when there is demand , there will be a supply , and opposite . They can ban gogo bars , but they won't ban coffee houses or just normal bars . Then there will be a demand and the supply will certainly be there .

[starky]

Until the faux coup is over and the "elected" government is ousted (read never) the party line will be a combination of 3 and 4.

[starky]

18 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

Perhaps it will come back like prostitution.  "There is no alcohol consumption in Thailand."

Been like that forever. 

[starky]

13 hours ago, djayz said:

That may well be the case, but from where I'm sitting all I see is that either every Tom, Dick and Harry in every village has opened a shop, cafe, etc. and nobody is making any money at it or those who once worked in those entertainment businesses now sleep all day in hammocks and have absolutely nothing to do and don't have a pot to pi$$ in. 

 

It is unrealistic to expect so many unskilled, under qualified people to make a living doing anything else. I feel sorry for a nation where it is more profitable to lie on your back than it is to do an honest day's work. 

Pretty much every nation on Earth women will make more on their back, as strippers in massage parlours as escorts you ever been to a brothel or a strip club in the west?

   It's mostly the underdeveloped nations IMO where there is so little choice that it becomes an option for those that would rather not do.

  In developed nations it is clearly a choice for many who would rather make massive bank with their bodies than work a normal "honest" job.

[chrissables]

19 hours ago, StayinThailand2much said:

The nightlife as we know it will be mostly gone, I think. The tourism-centred nightlife was declining anyway over the past 15 years. There will be 'naughty' nightlife, but it will be more 'Thai-style', i.e. karaoke bars in back alleys, rather than gogo bars in main streets. (There will still be some a-gogo and beer bars, but without the 'fun feel' of years past.)

I visited a restaurant here in in Pattaya over the weekend, the waitresses were extremely friendly and accommodating, the place was packed and buzzing. 
I also heard quite a few bars are up and running as usual.

[SiSePuede419]

Will the night life entertainment return?

 

She went home to her village? ????