Jomtien Office Retirement Visa Extension Experience

[Banana7]

Extended retirement visa today. Arrived at 07:40, about 25 people were already in line. Got into the  building 08:45, the outside queue at this time had about 120 people, some standing in the sun, not enough space under the tents.

 

Processing was fast once inside but there were some surprises. Last year, TM30 proof of address was adequate, this year TM30 not adequate, a copy of chanote and blue book was sufficient to satisfy proof of address. Next, original bank books had to be shown and were examined in detail. Last year the bank letter and photo copy of bank book transactions for the last 3 months was adequate. Also needed, prior bank book since the new book did not show 12 months of transactions, and a photo copy of the old book name page and last page of transactions. 

 

I recommend arriving early, definitely before 08:00, and bringing good proof of address and original bank books. Above only identifies changes, still need to bring original passport, copies of passport (photo page plus all pages with Thai immigration stamps), departure card, TM7, 1,900 baht,

 

 

Edited December 16, 2021 by Banana7

[Longwood50]

3 minutes ago, Banana7 said:

TM30 proof of address was adequate, this year TM30 not adequate, a copy of chanote and blue book

Now if a person is renting why would they need a copy of the Chanote and a blue book?   I am living with my GF she is Thai.  The Chanote is in her name and so is the blue book.  How would that prove that I am living there? 

[Banana7]

Just now, Longwood50 said:

Now if a person is renting why would they need a copy of the Chanote and a blue book?   I am living with my GF she is Thai.  The Chanote is in her name and so is the blue book.  How would that prove that I am living there? 

I don't rent, I own where I live. I am not sure how you prove where you live. If you rent, I believe a copy of the lease and a copy of the owner's ID card are required.

Edited December 16, 2021 by Banana7

[Longwood50]

1 minute ago, Banana7 said:

I don't rent, I own where I live.

Condo or home?  Seems like the TM30 would be the appropriate document.  After all I can own a home in the name of a company and rent out the home, the same is true with a condo.  Having the Chanote and blue book shows that I own it, not a verification that I actually reside there.  

Even the TM30 is nothing more that a statement of where I reside.  It really does not prove that is where I stay.  

You honestly wonder what the H they do with all of the hard copy paperwork and once collected does anyone ever look at it.  

[champers]

6 minutes ago, Banana7 said:

I don't rent, I own where I live. I am not sure how you prove where you live. If you rent, I believe a copy of the lease and a copy of the owner's ID card are required.

I concur.

I take copy of original lease plus updated current version.

[Banana7]

Just now, Longwood50 said:

Condo or home?  Seems like the TM30 would be the appropriate document.  After all I can own a home in the name of a company and rent out the home, the same is true with a condo.  Having the Chanote and blue book shows that I own it, not a verification that I actually reside there.  

Even the TM30 is nothing more that a statement of where I reside.  It really does not prove that is where I stay.  

You honestly wonder what the H they do with all of the hard copy paperwork and once collected does anyone ever look at it.  

I don't have all the answers. The IO asked "show me proof of where you live" and she accepted a copy of my chanote and blue book. I own a condo.

[ubonjoe]

22 minutes ago, Longwood50 said:

Now if a person is renting why would they need a copy of the Chanote and a blue book?   I am living with my GF she is Thai.  The Chanote is in her name and so is the blue book.  How would that prove that I am living there? 

A simple statement stating done by her that you are living with her with signed copies of her house book and ID card.

[Longwood50]

5 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

A simple statement stating done by her that you are living with her with signed copies of her house book and ID card.

Thank You. I don't recall this even being required before but I guess I should be prepared. 

[bkk6060]

Copy of signed lease, photo copy of owners ID with their signature and phone number have always been requested from me.  

 

To add, I never go early but around 1115 am.  Usually no waiting all the early folks are cleaned out.

[DrJack54]

50 minutes ago, Banana7 said:

. Last year the bank letter and photo copy of bank book transactions for the last 3 months was adequate. Also needed, prior bank book since the new book did not show 12 months of transactions, and a photo copy of the old book name page and last page of transactions

Why would any of that be a surprise. The io would need to see bank balance and all pages since previous extension. Obviously photocopies for all of that period..

If that's an old and new bank book then so be it. 

Don't understand some immigration offices reference to TM30. 

Has nothing to do with annual extensions. 

[JustAnotherHun]

51 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

signed copies of her house book and ID card.

Correct. That's what a frenchman who is living in a rented appartement in my building told me when he came back from Immigration Jomtien today.

According to him he never had to provide this before. The contract and a letter by the Conde Management was enough.

Edited December 16, 2021 by JustAnotherHun

[scubascuba3]

1 hour ago, Banana7 said:

I don't rent, I own where I live. I am not sure how you prove where you live. If you rent, I believe a copy of the lease and a copy of the owner's ID card are required.

Did they specifically ask for both blue book and copy of chanote?

[DrJack54]

1 hour ago, Banana7 said:

. Last year, TM30 proof of address was adequate, this year TM30 not adequate, a copy of chanote and blue book was sufficient to satisfy proof of address

So turns out you own condo.

Who did the TM30 for you last year? 

With regards to required chanote and blue book a mention of fact you own condo would explain that.

Of course the majority of folk obtaining extension do not necessarily own a condo.

[Banana7]

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

Did they specifically ask for both blue book and copy of chanote?

Not specifically. The IO asked "show me proof of where you live" . I offered copy of  my chanote and bluebook and she accepted it.

 

It's best to go prepared to show acceptable "proof of where you live". In this thread there are multiple examples of what is acceptable. You can try something different than what's been mentioned, the risk is yours. If you arrive unprepared to provide acceptable proof, you may have to line-up a second time, returning with the "proof".

 

Also, I highly recommend avoiding arguments with the IO, or questioning them about how they do their job like "why do you need this or that" or telling them how to do their job.  This type of dialogue could result in being asked to leave before your extension is provided, or being given an extension of less than 1 year, which was the case for one foreigner who was arguing.

 

 

[scubascuba3]

6 minutes ago, Banana7 said:

 

 

I highly recommend avoiding arguments with the IO, or questioning them about how they do their job like "why do you need this or that" or telling them how to do their job.  This type of dialogue could result in being asked to leave before your extension is provided, or being given an extension of less than 1 year, which was the case for one foreigner who was arguing.

 

 

So we can't even wind up the IO, no fun these days

[DrJack54]

12 minutes ago, Banana7 said:

Not specifically. The IO asked "show me proof of where you live" . I offered copy of  my chanote and bluebook and she accepted it.

 

It's best to go prepared to show acceptable "proof of where you live". In this thread there are multiple examples of what is acceptable

In other words you offered that and it was accepted.

Your Jomtien report reads like that was required. In fact there are alternatives depending on various circumstances. 

Frankly a report being surprised about banking requirements and where you live etc.

At least next year you will be aware of what's required. 

Regarding this part of your post.....

 

"Also, I highly recommend avoiding arguments with the IO, or questioning them about how they do their job like "why do you need this or that" or telling them how to do their job".

 

My advice is to be aware of what's required and present it.

 

Edited December 16, 2021 by DrJack54

[Banana7]

2 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Why would any of that be a surprise. The io would need to see bank balance and all pages since previous extension. Obviously photocopies for all of that period..

If that's an old and new bank book then so be it. 

Don't understand some immigration offices reference to TM30. 

Has nothing to do with annual extensions. 

At Jomtien, one has to return 90 days after the extension is approved to provide a copy of the bank book balance pages showing 800,000b or more for the 90 days. To show the period balances since the last extension, is a duplicate check on the 90 day period. The renewal balance check needs only to be done for the last 9 months.

[DrJack54]

6 minutes ago, Banana7 said:

At Jomtien, one has to return 90 days after the extension is approved to provide a copy of the bank book balance pages showing 800,000b or more for the 90 days. To show the period balances since the last extension, is a duplicate check on the 90 day period. The renewal balance check needs only to be done for the last 9 months.

Various reports from folk using Jomtien is that the 90 day report back is hit and miss.

I would be shocked if they only look back 9 months.

In any event that's not what you stated. Here is snipit of OP.

 

"Last year the bank letter and photo copy of bank book transactions for the last 3 months was adequate" 

 

Where did 3 months come from. 

I will stop there. Personally find your account of little help for annual extensions. 

[ivor bigun]

just did my marriage there ,i had all my paperwork ,but she said my bank letter was not right ,and my money in bank was no good as not enough money in money out ? what? there has been over 400 k in the new book for 5 months ,and the bank letter was just that saying my account was from 2011(the bank has changed from thanachart to tbb,anyway went back to bank they could not understand  what she wanted so just worded the letter a bit different ,

got back walked straight in to no6 she sat us down ,looked at the old letter and the new (think she realized she was wrong but would not admit it) said ok ,come back next month ,what a waste of time ,by the way the ques were massive .

[Banana7]

22 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Various reports from folk using Jomtien is that the 90 day report back is hit and miss.

I would be shocked if they only look back 9 months.

In any event that's not what you stated. Here is snipit of OP.

 

"Last year the bank letter and photo copy of bank book transactions for the last 3 months was adequate" 

 

Where did 3 months come from. 

I will stop there. Personally find your account of little help for annual extensions. 

Do you bring your original bank book with you when you do your extension?

 

Have you or anyone else ever heard of the IO wanting to examine your original bank book for a retirement extension?

[DrJack54]

11 minutes ago, Banana7 said:

Do you bring your original bank book with you when you do your extension?

 

Have you or anyone else ever heard of the IO wanting to examine your original bank book for a retirement extension?

Every time for me at CW. Extensions using money in the bank method, I bring my bank book that covers previous 12 months. If I had obtained a new bb within that 12 months then of course I would bring both.

Hardly surprising. What do photocopies prove. 

 

BTW ....you state this.....

 

"....., copies of passport (photo page plus all pages with Thai immigration stamps)......"

 

For most offices you would not need to provide all pages with Thai immigration stamps. Only certain pages. Extension stamp etc. 

 

 

Edited December 16, 2021 by DrJack54

[couchpotato]

11 minutes ago, Banana7 said:

Do you bring your original bank book with you when you do your extension?

 

Have you or anyone else ever heard of the IO wanting to examine your original bank book for a retirement extension?

Now it is official 12 month bank Statement, bank confirmation letter and they look at your original book (books) also.  I believe these are the minimum requirements for a hassle free extension.

I use my pink ID card as my address confirmation.

With these docs, in/out in 10 minutes.

 

 

[david555]

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

So we can't even wind up the IO, no fun these days

your free to try ..... let us now the result ? ????.....????

Edited December 16, 2021 by david555

[chang50]

Thanks for the report..personally I have for many years taken a copy of the owners id and tabian baan to soi 5 for yearly extensions just in case although it was never asked for.

[david555]

10 hours ago, Banana7 said:

Do you bring your original bank book with you when you do your extension?

 

Have you or anyone else ever heard of the IO wanting to examine your original bank book for a retirement extension?

They always did when doing my ret ext ...., and on the copy's they mark the last date and former ext. date on the bankbook copy's   with yellow marker point ......i could notice , making it easy i think for the behind desk officers to check for the relevant  periods and stamping the ext. on passport , as the outside desk officers doing the preview check 

[giddyup]

14 hours ago, Longwood50 said:

Now if a person is renting why would they need a copy of the Chanote and a blue book?   I am living with my GF she is Thai.  The Chanote is in her name and so is the blue book.  How would that prove that I am living there? 

I take a copy of my partners Chanote and blue book as the house is in her name. Been doing this for 12 years.

[edwardflory]

A little horror story:

Several years ago, a friend of mine, who had been living at the same address 10 years, was required to go get his "original" rental agreement and prove rental payments for the last year before a 90 day report would be accepted.

[rughead]

my recent extension I was also asked to draw a mud map where I live  ,this was a first , so alot of  squiggly  lines on an A4 sheet  with running commentary by me . Accepted  by IO. 

 

[decca60]

15 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

Copy of signed lease, photo copy of owners ID with their signature and phone number have always been requested from me.  

 

To add, I never go early but around 1115 am.  Usually no waiting all the early folks are cleaned out.

be aware they close for lunch from 11.30 an to 1.00 pm.

[DrJack54]

13 minutes ago, decca60 said:

be aware they close for lunch from 11.30 an to 1.00 pm.

So is that just they stop issuing que tickets or shut up shop completely. Most offices are closed 12-1pm