Thailand's new COVID-19 cases hit six month low

[daveAustin]

4 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Great to see the numbers continue to drop despite the merchants of doom and general fear mongering.

 

Let's hope the downward trend continues.

Sorry, but you’ve gotta be in denial or a bit simple if you lap up statistics dished up by a dodgy, self-serving junta. Thailand’s testing is still WOEFULLY low—we’re talking fractions of what transparent countries test. Just think for a second; why would you test unless forced? You typically get sectioned in a grotty hospital and treated like a lepper. No incentive + the figures are cooked for face and tourism.  

[Dogmatix]

5 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Great to see the numbers continue to drop despite the merchants of doom and general fear mongering.

 

Let's hope the downward trend continues.

Omicron is coming on daily unquarantined flights from the UK.  Cases will be back up to 20k in no time.   

[Kadilo]

17 minutes ago, Dogmatix said:

Omicron is coming on daily unquarantined flights from the UK.  Cases will be back up to 20k in no time.   

Yes I guess we will have to wait until that time before we can start believing the numbers again. 

[anchadian]

376,281 Vaccine doses administered yesterday

 

99,761,523 total doses

 

[Daithi85]

1 hour ago, daveAustin said:

Sorry, but you’ve gotta be in denial or a bit simple if you lap up statistics dished up by a dodgy, self-serving junta. Thailand’s testing is still WOEFULLY low—we’re talking fractions of what transparent countries test. Just think for a second; why would you test unless forced? You typically get sectioned in a grotty hospital and treated like a lepper. No incentive + the figures are cooked for face and tourism.  

Must be doing a great job of hiding all the sick people then. Amazing how people on here seem to begrudge Thailand doing well.life goes on here in Thailand while  the western world is going back into lockdowns. Maybe other countries should follow suit and stop testing so many  people causing unesecery panic...

[Kadilo]

7 minutes ago, Daithi85 said:

Must be doing a great job of hiding all the sick people then. Amazing how people on here seem to begrudge Thailand doing well.life goes on here in Thailand while  the western world is going back into lockdowns. Maybe other countries should follow suit and stop testing so many  people causing unesecery panic...

Yes it used to be one of the main boasts when it first kicked off that “if we had the same type of problem as other countries then there would be hospital beds out on the streets” 

 

 Then it was the infection numbers that were wrong and being covered up and we can only rely on the death numbers as they are harder to conceal. Once they started to fall then of course they were also false and being covered up and easy to manipulate. 
 

The latest is to represent deaths in the UK as being caused by Omicron when there is no evidence yet that any of the seven  were caused by Omicron, only that they died with Omicron. Not surprisingly, the UK Government despite promising otherwise, has still not published the real cause of the first death after six days, his age, or his vaccination status although a supposed relative of the deceased claimed he was in his 70s and not vaccinated. 
 

No doubt Thailand will see a wave come soon and I’m sure the pencils are already being sharpened in anticipation. 
 

 

[Cherrytreeview]

Thailand can fiddle the numbers all they want but the reality is they still have large parts of the night time economy officially closed.

About 0.9% of 2019 tourism figures and that means up to 20% of GDP driven off a cliff.

BA and Eva both not flying in from London is symptomatic of their low season predictions for visitors to Thailand in 2022.

This is before omicron arrives.

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

The latest is to represent deaths in the UK as being caused by Omicron when there is no evidence yet that any of the seven  were caused by Omicron, only that they died with Omicron. Not surprisingly, the UK Government despite promising otherwise, has still not published the real cause of the first death after six days, his age, or his vaccination status although a supposed relative of the deceased claimed he was in his 70s and not vaccinated. 

The WHO guidelines for recording an official death is the same for every country in the world. The UK has so far recorded 7 Official Omicron deaths, there will be many more to come and they would meet those guidelines, read them here (pdf download from WHO) it is the same for a delta, alpha, beta or Omicron death. The only difference being its been sequenced to specifically Omicron.

 

Thats all that matters at this stage. Daily deaths from Delta are announced in the same way. Statistics for deaths are collated not only by WHO for their research into Omicron but of course by the UK. Results of all deaths in the UK are then assigned to the correct list and integrated into the statistics for causes and underlying conditions, vaccination status, age etc etc.

 

The UK does some excellent research and studies, rest assured they know what they are doing unlike some keyboard warriors here.

14 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

 

No doubt Thailand will see a wave come soon and I’m sure the pencils are already being sharpened in anticipation. 

Not sure about pencils but maybe the quick erection of field hospitals again

[Bkk Brian]

16 minutes ago, Cherrytreeview said:

Thailand can fiddle the numbers all they want but the reality is they still have large parts of the night time economy officially closed.

About 0.9% of 2019 tourism figures and that means up to 20% of GDP driven off a cliff.

BA and Eva both not flying in from London is symptomatic of their low season predictions for visitors to Thailand in 2022.

This is before omicron arrives.

Not only nightlife but reported just over a week ago is that 2 thirds of government schools are also still closed although many provide online learning. This is a ridiculous situation when Thailand has now so few cases "officially"

[Cherrytreeview]

18 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Not only nightlife but reported just over a week ago is that 2 thirds of government schools are also still closed although many provide online learning. This is a ridiculous situation when Thailand has now so few cases "officially"

That is a dreadful statistic. Awful.

As you say, what's the point of allegedly low cases but children still don't get a proper education?

Is Thailand going for a zero covid policy?

[Cherrytreeview]

31 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

The WHO guidelines for recording an official death is the same for every country in the world. The UK has so far recorded 7 Official Omicron deaths, there will be many more to come and they would meet those guidelines, read them here (pdf download from WHO) it is the same for a delta, alpha, beta or Omicron death. The only difference being its been sequenced to specifically Omicron.

 

Thats all that matters at this stage. Daily deaths from Delta are announced in the same way. Statistics for deaths are collated not only by WHO for their research into Omicron but of course by the UK. Results of all deaths in the UK are then assigned to the correct list and integrated into the statistics for causes and underlying conditions, vaccination status, age etc etc.

 

The UK does some excellent research and studies, rest assured they know what they are doing unlike some keyboard warriors here.

Not sure about pencils but maybe the quick erection of field hospitals again

Yes the long winded keyboard warriors.

No matter how many times their told they still can't compute it.

Tiny percentage of a huge amount of infection's = health care system under pressure.

It's not difficult to understand.

 

[anchadian]

Health officials in Phuket are reporting five cases of Omicron. Four foreigners and one Thai arrived 13-14 December. Two arrived from UK (American & German), and one each from Sweden, France (Tunisian), and Saudi Arabia/Qatar (Thai). Chart shows vaccination record. #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1472515666309632002

 

 

[worrab]

Late report today as we were in Prachuap taking the lad for his 2 year old jab. Anyway figure is down by the hefty figure of 1.!!

 

Health officials on Sunday (Dec 19) reported 41 new COVID-19 cases, 18 were found in Hua Hin.

Elsewhere in the province, 10 cases were found in Pranburi, zero cases in Sam Roi Yot, zero cases in Kuiburi, zero cases in Thap Sakae, 11 cases in Bang Saphan, and 2 cases in Mueang Prachuap Khiri Khan. No new deaths were reported today.

 

Dec 19: Prachuap reports 41 new COVID-19 cases, 18 cases in Hua Hin - Hua Hin Today English Newspaper Info, Reports, Events and News Social Life

 

 

[2 is 1]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Not only nightlife but reported just over a week ago is that 2 thirds of government schools are also still closed although many provide online learning. This is a ridiculous situation when Thailand has now so few cases "officially"

Many country's elsewhere schools are open! Even infection's hit record high numbers every day! You cant screw up kids future , covid or not! Deal situation if coming much infection in schools not before! Kids not spread so much covid and kids not easily get it either!

Edited December 19, 2021 by 2 is 1

[coolcarer]

6 minutes ago, 2 is 1 said:

Many country's elsewhere schools are open! Even infection's hit record numbers every day! You cant screw up kids future , covid or not! Deal situation if coming much infection in schools not before! Kids not spread so much covid and kids not easily get it either!

When you have recorded covid numbers this low there is no excuse for this whatsoever. Morally and ethically it’s wrong

[anchadian]

Surin’s “Elephant Fair” canceled for two days to reorganize Covid19 preventive health measures

 

Surin –

Surin’s annual “Elephant Fair”, held between December 15th to the 26th, was ordered canceled from December 18th to the 19th to prevent the spread of Covid-19 with measures from the Provincial Communicable Disease Control Committee.

 

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/12/19/surins-elephant-fair-canceled-for-two-days-to-reorganize-covid19-preventive-health-measures/

[Petey11]

3 hours ago, Kadilo said:

Yes it used to be one of the main boasts when it first kicked off that “if we had the same type of problem as other countries then there would be hospital beds out on the streets” 

 

 Then it was the infection numbers that were wrong and being covered up and we can only rely on the death numbers as they are harder to conceal. Once they started to fall then of course they were also false and being covered up and easy to manipulate. 
 

The latest is to represent deaths in the UK as being caused by Omicron when there is no evidence yet that any of the seven  were caused by Omicron, only that they died with Omicron. Not surprisingly, the UK Government despite promising otherwise, has still not published the real cause of the first death after six days, his age, or his vaccination status although a supposed relative of the deceased claimed he was in his 70s and not vaccinated. 
 

No doubt Thailand will see a wave come soon and I’m sure the pencils are already being sharpened in anticipation. 
 

 

Regardless of deaths from Omicron the Sadiq Kahn, mayor of London said in an interview that majority of people ending up in hospital are those not vaccinated. This may be the problem when Omicron hits Thailand as a lot of vaccinations are with the Chinese junk or a mixture of them and AZ. Already known that AZ double dose not sufficient after 100 days hence the big push in the UK to get everyone boosted with Pfizer ASAP. Thai needs to ramp up it vaccination again I'd say, and quick, they done it before, but need to get the right vaccines. See they are still pushing the cocktail for jabs in January, may have worked with Delta but time will tell if it does the job with Omicron.

[JonnyF]

8 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Merchants of Doom, fear mongering? Reality is what it is. No one is spouting rhetoric like you have written.  Cases are what they are, and testing is abysmal. 

 

Look at how long the downward trees has taken and its nit a true downward trend, it's slowly dropping g but still has peaks and valleys.

 

Other countries are seeing a huge upswing, and Thailand has always been on the case upswing as those countries numbers drop.

 

 

It seems certain people are just begging for it to take a turn for the worse. I dont get the clamouring for bad news.

 

Is that because they don't really have a social life and enjoy lockdown? Is that because they don't really like Thailand very much and want to see it fail? Is that because their relative wealth increases when those around them get poorer? Is that because they enjoy playing the virtuous great white knight saving the grateful peasants? 

 

I dont know the reason but let's hope the positive trend continues and we can all get back to normal ASAP. Personally I believe omicron will be the final chapter when covid turns into something akin to the common cold but I'm sure those with vested interests will try to drag it out another year or two.

[Kadilo]

39 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

It seems certain people are just begging for it to take a turn for the worse. I dont get the clamouring for bad news.

 

Is that because they don't really have a social life and enjoy lockdown? Is that because they don't really like Thailand very much and want to see it fail? Is that because their relative wealth increases when those around them get poorer? Is that because they enjoy playing the virtuous great white knight saving the grateful peasants? 

 

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In reality possibly a mixture of all the above. You also now get people  on the net promoting their/their chums social media blogs/Twitter accounts 

 

You can’t blame people for trying to earn a few quid. It’s tough times out there for many. 

 

Sadly as MSM proves, fear mongering headlines  helps grab people’s attention. 

Edited December 19, 2021 by Kadilo

[Petey11]

5 hours ago, Daithi85 said:

Must be doing a great job of hiding all the sick people then. Amazing how people on here seem to begrudge Thailand doing well.life goes on here in Thailand while  the western world is going back into lockdowns. Maybe other countries should follow suit and stop testing so many  people causing unesecery panic...

Example if UK only tested those sick enough to turn up at hospital it'd only have maybe 900-1000 cases a day, everything would be rosy, but the other 90k odd would be fuelling the spread unknown. I truly believe Thai government has no true idea of the spread in Thailand of covid, just rely on clusters popping up to find it.

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

It seems certain people are just begging for it to take a turn for the worse. I dont get the clamouring for bad news.

 

Is that because they don't really have a social life and enjoy lockdown? Is that because they don't really like Thailand very much and want to see it fail? Is that because their relative wealth increases when those around them get poorer? Is that because they enjoy playing the virtuous great white knight saving the grateful peasants? 

 

I dont know the reason but let's hope the positive trend continues and we can all get back to normal ASAP. Personally I believe omicron will be the final chapter when covid turns into something akin to the common cold but I'm sure those with vested interests will try to drag it out another year or two.

Maybe they are waiting for the inevitable and making pro active preparations as best they can through boosters, which leads to discussions on those points.

 

Nobody is fear mongering but the reality is it is likely to hit Thailand as predicted by WHO that it will hit the whole world and to prepare. The narrative that its mild is completely dismissed by WHO currently, it may well turn out to be a little milder and their are indications from some quarters on that. But absolute numbers infected because of its extra tranmissibility and vaccine evasion capabilities make it a foe that needs attention now not when its too late. 

 

Pretty simple stuff really.

 

[Cherrytreeview]

13 minutes ago, Petey11 said:

Example if UK only tested those sick enough to turn up at hospital it'd only have maybe 900-1000 cases a day, everything would be rosy, but the other 90k odd would be fuelling the spread unknown. I truly believe Thai government has no true idea of the spread in Thailand of covid, just rely on clusters popping up to find it.

2 years into a global pandemic and our amateur TVF basement epidemiologists still can't understand that's why developed countries have extensive testing, sequencing and scientific capabilities.

The complete opposite of stick a finger in the wind Thailand.

[Bkk Brian]

4 hours ago, anchadian said:

Health officials in Phuket are reporting five cases of Omicron. Four foreigners and one Thai arrived 13-14 December. Two arrived from UK (American & German), and one each from Sweden, France (Tunisian), and Saudi Arabia/Qatar (Thai). Chart shows vaccination record. #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1472515666309632002

 

 

I guess this is part of the group but its reporting an additional 2 Thai's with 3 in total Thai's arriving from Saudi Arabia. This would make it 7 cases.

 

3 Thais test positive for Omicron upon return from Mecca

 

Three Thai nationals tested positive for the Omicron variant on Friday after returning home via the Phuket sandbox scheme from their annual “Umrah” pilgrimage to Mecca in Saudi Arabia. Dr Muhammad Labaiji, deputy director of Khok Pho Hospital in Pattani who had also joined the trip, said on Sunday that three Omicron infections were confirmed after 137 returnees underwent RT-PCR tests upon returning from Mecca last week.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40010151

 

I pity the people sitting next to them on the plane, they'll now need to go into quarantine for 10 days even if negative.

 

Just read a report from the UK Health Security Agency:

 

"UK finds that the odds of Omicron infection in a non-household setting are about 3x higher than for Delta. Rate of infection of close contacts (face to face, within 1 meter for 1 min, or within 2 meters for 15 min): Delta = 3.0% Omicron = 8.7%"

 

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1042046/Technical_Briefing_32.pdf

[webfact]

COVID-19: New coronavirus cases in Thailand continue to decline

 

File photo: REUTERS

 

Thailand on Monday (December 20) reported 2,525 new COVID-19 cases, 4,190 recoveries and 31 additional deaths over the past 24 hours. 

 

Full story: https://aseannow.com/topic/1243673-covid-19-new-coronavirus-cases-in-thailand-continue-to-decline/

 

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