Brit, 82, arrested in Nong Khai on child sex abuse charges

[brewsterbudgen]

6 hours ago, crazykopite said:

What’s underage in Thailand I don’t frequent those bars but when I have the girls look in the 20s upwards 

18

[Liverpool Lou]

10 hours ago, fangless said:

I am sure the above must be a misquote and he meant "he intends to rid Thailand of ALL foreign pedophiles"

Fortunately (for other countries), Thailand cannot get rid of its own citizens.

[Liverpool Lou]

8 hours ago, Mywayboy said:

11 hours ago, roo860 said:

More Thais for sure.

Thais will exploit minors for financial gain.

It's not uncommon in western countries, either, UK and US being prime examples.

[roo860]

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

It's not uncommon in western countries, either, UK and US being prime examples.

Of course it never happens in France, Germany etc.

[Liverpool Lou]

8 hours ago, Percy P said:

May be a British citizen but is he British.

Obviously, Graham Holman is British if he's a British citizen.  

[Liverpool Lou]

7 hours ago, Oxx said:

12 hours ago, webfact said:

In this case the suspect has already had his visa revoked and been blacklisted and will now face charges connected to children under 15 and pornography.

So much for "innocent until proven guilty".

Visas can be revoked at any time by the IB, the decision doesn't have to depend on his being convicted.

[Liverpool Lou]

7 hours ago, BestB said:

...he should be intending to rid Thailand of ALL pedophiles

That's what he said he would be doing...

"He would be working with child and family welfare groups to root out pedophiles". 

[Liverpool Lou]

7 hours ago, chuang said:

Why child abuse always involved farangs....

It doesn't, why would you say that, I wonder?  

[Liverpool Lou]

7 hours ago, Catoni said:

Epstein’s girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell is in huge trouble for grooming young girls for men.  And she might name a lot of big names….to cut a deal for a shorter sentence.

Have you infiltrated the jury?  She hasn't been found guilty of anything, yet.

[Liverpool Lou]

7 hours ago, crazykopite said:

I don’t frequent those bars but when I have...

Make your mind up, you either do or you don't!  

[BestB]

10 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

That's what he said he would be doing...

"He would be working with child and family welfare groups to root out pedophiles". 

Thank you for your input Inspector Gadget

Edited December 28, 2021 by BestB

[Liverpool Lou]

5 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

The guy is guilty of abusing Children .

The Parents are guilty of supplying the Children .

The Courts can decide which one gets the highest jail term 

Just to fend off the hounds, I'm not supporting him but it's the court that decides if they are guilty, not Thaivisa posters; at this stage no one has been proven guilty of anything.

Edited December 28, 2021 by Liverpool Lou

[DrPhibes]

I expect to get a rash of sh-t for what I'm going to say but stay with me please.  I do not condone kids being sold into sex.  Sex (especially in Thailand) is a very flexible thing.  Legal age of consent has fluctuated though out history for different countries but was generally accepted as when the young lady begins having her period in old and, only relatively recently in history, given an age.  In the US, in 1800, it was as low as 10yrs old in some states (7 in Delaware).  True, times were different as in not living longer than 50 yrs old probably played a part.  Even Romeo and Juliette was between a 16yr old boy an a 13yr old girl.  I had  3 girlfriends who were VERY together people who were jilling-off at 10 and giving B"J"s at 11/12 in the late 70's in the US (when social moral standards were much more lax despite the law- which was only used as last resort at that time).  Nobody forced them, it was just the way their libido developed and it was understood as such, it's not on a calendar everyone.  One of them still dances a bachelor party every now and then seeing it as well paying adult sexy fun and expected at such a gathering.  She is an aerospace engineer.  I have had several underage girls approach me for their first experience when I was younger but had to turn them down despite being a potentially healthy experience for them on their sexual journey to who they are, due the serious ramifications of the law (now even more potentially dangerous decades later, see all the US lawsuits for something that happened 40 years ago).   In the 50's and 60's in the US, it was expected that you drove off to "make out hill" with your BF in your middle teens as a girl, where every other teen couple was going to do the same in town.  The rule for most parents was, if she gets pregnant, you bought it, and the law would be called in only if you did not do the right thing.  Now, for the same behavior and caught, your branded as a sex criminal for the rest of your life (poor kid).  I don't write this to condone what this guy has done at all, I find it disgusting.  I am just putting out as an observation that the positive human developmental experience is not all about laws.

[Liverpool Lou]

5 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

Why is it big news that these people will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law? That should be a given, day in and day out, not some kind of special effort from the police on an ad hoc basis.

The original report doesn't use that expression, perhaps it's just Thaivisa embellishment.

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, 1sickpuppy said:

2 hours ago, 1sickpuppy said:

Typical pommy Bast--d hang im high or skin im alive

I have met some good pommies, but lots of sick ones as well

Australia has its fair share of sick bastards also, don't forget that.

[Liverpool Lou]

34 minutes ago, roo860 said:

36 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

It's not uncommon in western countries, either, UK and US being prime examples.

Of course it never happens in France, Germany etc.

Did I say that it doesn't happen in France and Germany?   I pointed out two countries in which I know that it has been widely reported.

[tgw]

Quote

he intends to rid Thailand of foreign pedophiles

national pedophiles must feel relieved !

 

[Liverpool Lou]

19 minutes ago, BestB said:

Thank you for your input Inspector Gadget

You're welcome, someone has to point out the gratuitous, Thai-bashing inaccuracies sometimes.

Edited December 28, 2021 by Liverpool Lou

[Scott]

A troll post has been reported and removed.

 

[Stargeezr]

I hope that this Brit gets lots of jail time in Thailand before being sent back to the UK.

  I have seen a prison and the prisoners do not get a lot of comfort or great food.

    The worst thing the Thai police and government could do is send this old perv

out of the country too soon.

[Zack61]

Scum.

Going back a few years in Chiang Mai this sort of behavior ended quite a long friendship I had with the owners of a small Guest House there. They gloated about how much money they were making from an American Paedophile who booked out all the rooms to allow him unfettered use of the GH for the purpose of sex with young boys. Usually two at a time and many of them over a period of up to 6 months each year. GH owners were active in sourcing the boys for him and made a small fortune from the guys activities. They encouraged the young boys to drink and eat as much as they could because all charges were being toted at an exaggerated rate against the bill which was paid weekly. They catered to all his needs and made many thousands of baht per day.

After several years of these goings on the police were alerted to his activities and he was arrested. He was forced to pay almost 2 million baht to various people and then escorted back to the US by US law enforcement officers for prosecution. Nothing happened to the GH owners who were implicit in the whole sordid affair. I am certain they had high level police connections and now live quite a good life as a result of their investment in this paedophile's activities. I just hope there is such a thing as Karma because these people deserve to be punished. They were just as guilty as the Paedophile and yet came out on top. Miserable human beings. If Big Joke would like to contact me I could give him details.

 

[4MyEgo]

19 hours ago, worgeordie said:

Another dirty old man arrested, don't stop looking ,you need

to find them all and put them away for a long time, nothing

worse than a kiddy fiddler, 

"the parents who did this would be arrested too."  they are

just as bad,who could do that to their children..no matter

how poor.

regards Worgeordie

 

Cement shoes, problem sorted, straight to the bottom where they belong.

[RJRS1301]

18 hours ago, ivor bigun said:

surprised that he can still have sex at 82 . perv.

They do not need an erection to sexually abuse a person. Penetration is not the only form of sexual actvity

[RJRS1301]

8 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

That's what he said he would be doing...

"He would be working with child and family welfare groups to root out pedophiles". 

Unfortunate turn of phrase to "root out" paedophiles 

[tandor]

17 hours ago, Oxx said:

However, he's already has already had his visa revoked and been blacklisted.  The kangaroo court has decided he's guilty before there's even been a trial.

..he automatically has his current Visa suspended and the Court issues him a Court Visa until the matter has been finalised.

[tandor]

13 hours ago, cocoonclub said:

To be “about the money” you need someone willing to accept your money. I cannot believe no one noticed that an 80yo westerner was trying to find such “supplier”. 

..a lot of these poorer up country folk see a pubescent daughter, sadly, as a money earner, and if it suits the needs of the family, they will sell her/hire her. There are Scouts everywhere ready to supply a market in the bigger cities. A lot of very young girls/boys are trained, groomed, branded and sold on.

[Speedhump]

21 hours ago, cocoonclub said:

How can this even happen? I find it mind boggling how an 80 year old foreigner can find parents providing him their kids for sex and no one notices. 

Did I just read that? Are there specific age requirements usually demanded by parents who will sell their child's body? Or some Nonse Khai register to apply to? 

[bert bloggs]

15 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

In which country is Child abuse normal ?

Some years ago i spent time in Bangladesh,when out walking i was openly offered young girls about 10 yrs old . So there is one country. In their main religion it seems normal there.

[elcaro]

I have these posts because it always shows how many paedophiles are on our forum. ????

[Oxx]

3 minutes ago, elcaro said:

I have these posts because it always shows how many paedophiles are on our forum. ????

And I hate these posts because they show how many people are willing to condemn someone who is accused of being a paedophile before the evidence has been examined and had their day in court.

 

It would be far too easy for someone with a grudge to say Mr. or Mrs. X is a paedophile, and for police to provide fake evidence or testament, so unjustly ruining X's life.

In the case of the original alleged paedophile, he's already been blacklisted from Thailand, even though he and the evidence have been nowhere near a judge.