Pins and Needles in feet

[ThaiPauly]

I am experiencing awful pins and needles in my feet every day.

 

They come on about lunchtime for the last 5 days. I take Celebrex 200mg which takes about 4 hours to make a difference

Sometimes it works sometimes it does not and I end up sitting in the bath spraying them with the shower head.

Last night I got no sleep at all.

 

I have type 2 diebetis and wonder if that has any bearing on it?

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

Pins and needles can be symptoms of peripheral neuropathy, a common occurrence with type 2 diabetes.

[ThaiPauly]

1 minute ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

Pins and needles can be symptoms of peripheral neuropathy, a common occurrence with type 2 diabetes.

I was thinking that.....why I mentioned it.....I have made an appointment to see a neurologist on Monday and hope that if it is that then there is something that can help me

[howerde]

Are you checking your blood sugar regularly,  what does your  endocrinologist say about your blood tests? 

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

7 minutes ago, ThaiPauly said:

I was thinking that.....why I mentioned it.....I have made an appointment to see a neurologist on Monday and hope that if it is that then there is something that can help me

I have type 2, but so far no pins and needles.

 

I know someone who was given antidepressants for peripheral neuropathy caused by type 2. Also gabapentin gets prescribed often.

[ThaiPauly]

Just now, howerde said:

Are you checking your blood sugar regularly,  what does your  endocrinologist say about your blood tests? 

Yes, my blood sugar levels are regularly under 100, I don't drink or smoke.

Owing to me recently being hospitalised in ICU I have about every blood test for everything there is so I shall take this info to the specialist I am seeing on Monday.

 

I don't see and endocrinologist.. I see enough specialists as it is but not one of them , whatever they do.I shall have to look that up.

[ThaiPauly]

Just now, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

I have type 2, but so far no pins and needles.

 

I know someone who was given antidepressants for peripheral neuropathy caused by type 2. Also gabapentin gets prescribed often.

I have some Gabapentin in the house, but I am loathe to take it with Celebrex without consulting a doctor

[The Hammer2021]

Cerebrex should be treated with caution ...

[ThaiPauly]

16 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Cerebrex should be treated with caution ...

You are right, that's why I only take 200ml once a day, it can mess with your heart I know

But if treated with respect, and I mentioned I don't drink I should be OK

[Sheryl]

What you describe is either peripheral neuropathy (common in diabetics) or a circulatory impairment.  See what the neurologist says.

[bbudd]

blood sugar IS controllable with proper diet.

I no longer require medication to control mine

 

I also experienced neuropothy in the past and found a herbal mix that effectively reversed the symptoms (once the blood sugar is under control)

i took daily doses of-

Vit B 12

Passion flower

Prickly pear cactus

Cordydalis and angelica

 

All are available online from PipingRock at reasonable cost

 

Took about a month to produce noticeable results,but now just take occasional maintenance doses

[OneMoreFarang]

10 hours ago, ThaiPauly said:

I have type 2 diebetis and wonder if that has any bearing on it?

If you have diabetes then you should know that this is a typical symptom.

[Mutt Daeng]

I'm not diabetic, but 6 or 7 years ago I suffered from pins & needles in my feet. TBH I didn't exercise much, so I started to take a brisk 45-60 minute walk every morning before breakfast and a 90 minute bike ride after breakfast. Worked wonders for me. No more pins & needles. 

[ThaiPauly]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

If you have diabetes then you should know that this is a typical symptom.

Well I don't.

 

This is the first time I have experienced this problem....

I take it you have diabetes  and know everything ?

Lucky You

[Rimmer]

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[rwill]

It can also be caused by a pinched nerve in your lumbar region.  Sciatica.

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, ThaiPauly said:

Well I don't.

 

This is the first time I have experienced this problem....

I take it you have diabetes  and know everything ?

Lucky You

No, I certainly don't know everything. But I talk and listen to my doctor and one of the symptoms he regularly askes about are "needles and pins". 

I find it often confusing when members in this forum ask other members about symptoms. Just ask a doctor, they normally know what they are talking about because they studied these things for years... 

[Stevemercer]

Walking in bare feet can help improve circulation. Of course, in Thailand, you would do this indoors anyway.

 

In this cooler weather you can try wearing socks to bed to help improve circulation. When you're lying in bad, and your feet are a little cool (as is often the case), the blood retreats to the main arteries/veins meaning there is reduced flow to the periphery. When standing, the blood will tend to pool towards the feet, but when lying down the blood tends to centre in the body mass.

 

The socks keep the feet warm meaning circulation continues to the periphery.

[Rimmer]

Peripheral neuropathy is often caused by lack of vitamin B12 it can lead to the sheath of the nerves decaying, 

 

Neurobion is prescribed for preventing and treating B-vitamin deficiencies. But its manufacturer also promotes its use for: improving nervous system health.

It is claimed Neurobion Forte tab: Vitamins B1, B6, B12 contains neurotropic vitamins (B1, B6, B12) that support, protect and can repair damaged nerve cells which may cause tingling and numbness.

Costs around b250 a box.

 

There are reports that CBD oil can also help the symptoms.

 

 

[ThaiPauly]

5 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

No, I certainly don't know everything. But I talk and listen to my doctor and one of the symptoms he regularly askes about are "needles and pins". 

I find it often confusing when members in this forum ask other members about symptoms. Just ask a doctor, they normally know what they are talking about because they studied these things for years... 

Lucky man...you have a good doctor, we are not all so blessed

 

Stay well

[pacovl46]

If it always comes on at lunch time it might be the way you’re sitting. Maybe you have a slipped disc and a nerve gets pinched when you sit down. The reason you’re not feeling it at dinner is because the meds have kicked in by then. I’m just guessing here. If it is due to diabetes and you eat your meals always around the same time every day then you should be able to shift the onset by either eating earlier or later. If the onset shifts then you’d know it has to due with your diabetes. 

[Sheryl]

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[Sheryl]

23 minutes ago, pacovl46 said:

If it always comes on at lunch time it might be the way you’re sitting. Maybe you have a slipped disc and a nerve gets pinched when you sit down. The reason you’re not feeling it at dinner is because the meds have kicked in by then. I’m just guessing here. If it is due to diabetes and you eat your meals always around the same time every day then you should be able to shift the onset by either eating earlier or later. If the onset shifts then you’d know it has to due with your diabetes. 

 

This does not make any sense.

 

The peripheral neuropathy of diabetes occurs due to damage to nerves over a period of many years. It has nothing to do with temporary daily functions in blood sugar.

 

If the problem were spinal in cause there would usually be pain in either the lower back or buttocks/thigh.

 

 

 

[ThaiPauly]

Today I have not had any issues thankfully

I have taken two Celebrex 200mg at 12 hour intervals.

Not the first time I have done it and it never worked yesterday. However I don't really like taking 2 Celebrex a day or at all as I cannot take my blood thinning tablets with them.(Apolets)

I have some Neurontin (Gabapentin) and wonder if I should take them instead prior to seeing my neurologist on Monday?

[pacovl46]

10 hours ago, Sheryl said:

 

This does not make any sense.

 

The peripheral neuropathy of diabetes occurs due to damage to nerves over a period of many years. It has nothing to do with temporary daily functions in blood sugar.

 

If the problem were spinal in cause there would usually be pain in either the lower back or buttocks/thigh.

 

 

 

In regards to the blood sugar I was just playing off of a previous comment by someone else. I’m not an expert on diabetes.

Pins and needles in your hands and feet can be very much caused by slipped discs, though, because they are likely caused by a form of radiculopathy. In radiculopathy, one of your nerves has become compressed or pinched. This can be caused by bone spurs, a herniated disc, spinal stenosis, arthritis, repetitive motion injuries, or other conditions or injuries.

[Sheryl]

12 hours ago, ThaiPauly said:

Today I have not had any issues thankfully

I have taken two Celebrex 200mg at 12 hour intervals.

Not the first time I have done it and it never worked yesterday. However I don't really like taking 2 Celebrex a day or at all as I cannot take my blood thinning tablets with them.(Apolets)

I have some Neurontin (Gabapentin) and wonder if I should take them instead prior to seeing my neurologist on Monday?

No, it will just confuse things. Wait until you see the neurologist.

 

Besides the bleeding risk, there is a risk of heart problems when taking Celebrex especially in older people. Indeed, in some countries they will not prescribe to people  over 55-60 years.

 

It is quite possible that the relief of symptoms is unrelated to the Celebrex and not that it didn't work one day and did work another.  I suggest to stop that as well. It is quite dangerous to stop blood thinners on your own.

[ThaiPauly]

37 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

No, it will just confuse things. Wait until you see the neurologist.

 

Besides the bleeding risk, there is a risk of heart problems when taking Celebrex especially in older people. Indeed, in some countries they will not prescribe to people  over 55-60 years.

 

It is quite possible that the relief of symptoms is unrelated to the Celebrex and not that it didn't work one day and did work another.  I suggest to stop that as well. It is quite dangerous to stop blood thinners on your own.

I didn't  know that Celebrex was that dangerous Sheryl as I buy them over the counter.

My wife who is still very ill after her spinal operation 2 years ago also takes 2x200mg of Celebrex daily, she is 56.

I took one at 7am, so I will not take one at 7pm today.

Does this neuropathy problem come and go Sheryl?

Is it anything to do with my blood sugar level which is at 159 this morning  first time it's been over 100 in a year, so I have to work on bringing it down.

It's down to Christmas excess I suppose.

We've all been there

[Sheryl]

1 hour ago, ThaiPauly said:

I didn't  know that Celebrex was that dangerous Sheryl as I buy them over the counter.

My wife who is still very ill after her spinal operation 2 years ago also takes 2x200mg of Celebrex daily, she is 56.

I took one at 7am, so I will not take one at 7pm today.

Does this neuropathy problem come and go Sheryl?

Is it anything to do with my blood sugar level which is at 159 this morning  first time it's been over 100 in a year, so I have to work on bringing it down.

It's down to Christmas excess I suppose.

We've all been there

Such symptoms can come and go, yes

 

A temporary rise in blood sugar does nto cause this bt poorly controlled b,ood sugar over many months/years can

 

Re Celebrex; many, many drugs are available without prescription in Thailand which require a prescription in the West, and many of these can be quite dangerous for some people or if incorrectly used.  Celebfrex is prescription-only in most countries. Please see:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1383759/

 

https://www.fdanews.com/articles/75244-black-box-warning-added-to-celebrex-labeling

 

The  cardiovascular risks (heart attack, stroke etc) are related to long term use not occasional use.

 

To take this regularly and  discontinue prescribed blood thinners is definitely a risky thing to do.

 

 

 

 

[xylophone]

16 hours ago, ThaiPauly said:

However I don't really like taking 2 Celebrex a day or at all as I cannot take my blood thinning tablets with them.(Apolets)

If the Apolets you are taking are the low-dose aspirin for prevention of heart attack (blood thinning etc), then you might wish to look at the link below, and there are many others on the Internet regarding the low-dose aspirin and prevention of heart attacks, because they are not now recommended!

 

So you may wish to consult with your doctor with regards to the latest findings on this, if indeed he knows about it? 

 

Aspirin No Longer Recommended as a Preventative Measure Against Heart Attacks and Strokes in Older Individuals.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/aspirin-no-longer-recommended-as-a-preventative-for-heart-attacks-and-strokes-in-older-individuals-180978866/
 

[ThaiPauly]

21 minutes ago, xylophone said:

If the Apolets you are taking are the low-dose aspirin for prevention of heart attack (blood thinning etc), then you might wish to look at the link below, and there are many others on the Internet regarding the low-dose aspirin and prevention of heart attacks, because they are not now recommended!

 

So you may wish to consult with your doctor with regards to the latest findings on this, if indeed he knows about it? 

 

Aspirin No Longer Recommended as a Preventative Measure Against Heart Attacks and Strokes in Older Individuals.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/aspirin-no-longer-recommended-as-a-preventative-for-heart-attacks-and-strokes-in-older-individuals-180978866/
 

Thanks a lot for the info.

 

I am seeing the same nuerologist that put me on blood thinning meds 4 years ago after I had a mini stroke, so that's really good that I can speak to her on Monday about the article

Thank you so much for sharing this buddy.