Tigers on the BBQ: Thai hunters are unlikely to be innocent and should go to jail, Dutch activist tells ASEAN NOW

[webfact]

 

A well known Dutch animal rights activist and owner of a wildlife  sanctuary in Phetchaburi has told ASEAN NOW that the hunters responsible for the deaths of two tigers in Kanchanaburi are "not as innocent as they claim they are".

 

Edwin Wiek reckons they have killed the animals to make money from their skins, bones and penises. 

 

Thai PBS reported that five men had been bailed by the court after park rangers found two tiger skins and lots of tiger meat on a barbecue in Kanchanaburi last week. Weapons were also found after the men fled the scene having been alerted by dogs.

 

Edwin told ASEAN NOW that he agrees with the authorities that claims the men acted in retaliation for the loss of livestock - namely cows - were unlikely to be true.

 

He told us that due to new laws promulgated in 2020 there are stiff penalties for killing tigers and that a precedent should be set.

 

He said that this looked like "organized crime".

 

"The skin of a tiger can fetch 50 to 60,000 baht each if you know where to sell it," he said. "It would be at least 30 - 40,000 if you didn't.

 

"Bones fetch about the same and a tiger penis can be sold for 50-60,000 baht.

 

"There is lots of money to be made if you know how to get rid of the tigers.

 

Finally he said:

 

"It looks to me that they are not as innocent as they claim they are". 

 

Thai PBS quoted authorities as saying that they believed the hunters were guilty though a local park chief admitted it was up to the court whether they were granted bail or not.

 

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[seajae]

whats new, they need to be put away for a long time to try to stop all the others that will continue killing protected wild life if they think they can get away with it, anything is fair game here if they can make money out of it. Just in our local area we have had a swathe of thefts recently of things that can be sold easily, money is a prime mover when it cames to what some people will resort to and only a harsh sentence of anyone found doing it will help slow it down

[jvs]

Yes Edwin you are right of course,professional poachers!

As it is with lots of crime here only the small guys are being caught and prosecuted normally.

Premchai Karnasuta,was caught and prosecuted,a first in Thailand!

I hope also in this case they will track and convict the mastermind behind this.

[mtls2005]

40 minutes ago, webfact said:

He said that this looked like "organized crime".

 

"The skin of a tiger can fetch 50 to 60,000 baht each if you know where to sell it," he said. "It would be at least 30 - 40,000 if you didn't.

 

"Bones fetch about the same and a tiger penis can be sold for 50-60,000 baht.

 

"There is lots of money to be made if you know how to get rid of the tigers.

 

 

 

Doesn't seem like a hugely lucrative criminal enterprise? Yes, this is heinous and illegal, and the full weight of the law should be applied. But these guys don't seem like a Tiger Mafia?

 

 

Now running a Tiger Temple, breeding (sustainability?), showing, selfies, entrance fees, harvesting, seems like organized crime to me. Good thing that would never ever happen in thailand.

 

And what's with the penises? Do I even want to ask how this are prepared, preserved, packaged, used?

 

 

 

 

[Artisi]

6 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

 

 

Doesn't seem like a hugely lucrative criminal enterprise? Yes, this is heinous and illegal, and the full weight of the law should be applied. But these guys don't seem like a Tiger Mafia?

 

 

Now running a Tiger Temple, breeding (sustainability?), showing, selfies, entrance fees, harvesting, seems like organized crime to me. Good thing that would never ever happen in thailand.

 

And what's with the penises? Do I even want to ask how this are prepared, preserved, packaged, used?

 

 

 

 

Just google Tiger penis, plenty there for your education????

[Cake Monster]

54 minutes ago, webfact said:

He said that this looked like "organized crime".

Well, I guess that Premchai isnt involved with this, but there are many out there that would pay a handsome fee to go hunt a Tiger or Two in the wild, with an almost quarantined return on their Money for the Pelts, Penis,s, and other trophies.

[Mr Meeseeks]

Hard to stop the uneducated dum dums from doing this sort of thing when this sort of stuff is condoned at the very top:

 

Kenyan conservationists reacted with anger yesterday to news that a Thai zoo to which animals are being exported in a controversial deal is planning to serve an exotic game buffet to VIP guests.

Guests at the opening of the Chiang Mai night safari zoo in northern Thailand will tuck in to a menu featuring tiger, lion, elephant and giraffe. Plodprasop Suraswadi, director of the zoo project, told reporters that guests will pay 4,500 baht (£64) each for a meal in which dishes range from locally reared dog meat to lion from Africa.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/19/animalwelfare.kenya

[Misterwhisper]

The usual ludicrous excuse by criminals who clearly had a very nefarious reason for killing the two cats -- quick profit. If the tigers had really killed a few of their cows, they should have reported that to the wildlife service so appropriate action could be taken.

 

A protected species is PROTECTED, no matter what the circumstances are.

 

Book them, convict them, put them behind bars for a long, long time. Only uncompromising law enforcement will serve as a deterrent to other would-be poachers and hopefully help to cut down on this disgusting trade.

 

Even more importantly, investigators should try get to the bottom of this. There surely are masterminds behind this. Any my hunch is that some very interesting family names are potentially going to emerge if this investigation can be accomplished successfully.

 

[BostonRob2]

14 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Hard to stop the uneducated dum dums from doing this sort of thing when this sort of stuff is condoned at the very top:

 

Kenyan conservationists reacted with anger yesterday to news that a Thai zoo to which animals are being exported in a controversial deal is planning to serve an exotic game buffet to VIP guests.

Guests at the opening of the Chiang Mai night safari zoo in northern Thailand will tuck in to a menu featuring tiger, lion, elephant and giraffe. Plodprasop Suraswadi, director of the zoo project, told reporters that guests will pay 4,500 baht (£64) each for a meal in which dishes range from locally reared dog meat to lion from Africa.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/19/animalwelfare.kenya

17 year old link. If you'd read to the end the Thai PM was Thaksin, that might have given you a clue. 

[Mr Meeseeks]

9 minutes ago, BostonRob2 said:

17 year old link. If you'd read to the end the Thai PM was Thaksin, that might have given you a clue. 

I was here and remember it at the time, which is why I posted it. 

 

If you think anything has changed among the Sino-Thai elite then I have a bridge to sell you. 

[hotchilli]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

"The skin of a tiger can fetch 50 to 60,000 baht each if you know where to sell it," he said. "It would be at least 30 - 40,000 if you didn't.

 

"Bones fetch about the same and a tiger penis can be sold for 50-60,000 baht.

 

"There is lots of money to be made if you know how to get rid of the tigers.

Guilty... next case.

[metisdead]

A post with a link to a trolling video has been removed. 

[BusyB]

I'm a confirmed meat eater but I'd choke and puke on tiger meat.

[HAPPYNUFF]

Here I am again, ready to do my  bit.   Hand me one of their shotguns, give them a 100 metres start, and let the show begin.

[Cake Monster]

18 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Hard to stop the uneducated dum dums from doing this sort of thing when this sort of stuff is condoned at the very top:

 

Kenyan conservationists reacted with anger yesterday to news that a Thai zoo to which animals are being exported in a controversial deal is planning to serve an exotic game buffet to VIP guests.

Guests at the opening of the Chiang Mai night safari zoo in northern Thailand will tuck in to a menu featuring tiger, lion, elephant and giraffe. Plodprasop Suraswadi, director of the zoo project, told reporters that guests will pay 4,500 baht (£64) each for a meal in which dishes range from locally reared dog meat to lion from Africa.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/19/animalwelfare.kenya

If this is a true story and not a wind up, then there are some really sick people in Thailand.

Open a Zoo, to eat the Animals.

I guess it will be the poor creatures that did not survive the Journey, and died in transit / quarantine that will be on the menu.

Sick Ba@@@@@s

[Mr Meeseeks]

1 hour ago, Cake Monster said:

If this is a true story and not a wind up, then there are some really sick people in Thailand.

Open a Zoo, to eat the Animals.

I guess it will be the poor creatures that did not survive the Journey, and died in transit / quarantine that will be on the menu.

Sick Ba@@@@@s

It's 100% true and widely reported at the time. Some posters seem annoyed that I posted it though. ????

[BostonRob2]

On 1/18/2022 at 3:04 PM, Mr Meeseeks said:

I was here and remember it at the time, which is why I posted it. 

 

If you think anything has changed among the Sino-Thai elite then I have a bridge to sell you. 

Things changed a little for Thaksin. Can I interest you in the Eiffel Tower?

[Boyn]

8 minutes ago, BostonRob2 said:

Things changed a little for Thaksin. Can I interest you in the Eiffel Tower?

so this Eiffel tower for sale is it in good condition? whats the paintwork like? has it got an MOT?

[BostonRob2]

18 hours ago, Boyn said:

so this Eiffel tower for sale is it in good condition? whats the paintwork like? has it got an MOT?

Yes, paintwork great and it does have a Ministry of Tower certification.

[Boyn]

6 hours ago, BostonRob2 said:

Yes, paintwork great and it does have a Ministry of Tower certification.

i will need a test drive

[Chris.B]

The perpetrators should have their penises cut off and fed to the tigers in a zoo as a special treat.