Calls for action at crossroads after two 14 year boys killed on three person motorcycle

[Liverpool Lou]

7 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

Rarely, do the riders look for traffic when entering a roadway.....14 year old kids would have zero idea of road safety....their parents would never have taught them.....

The 14-year olds' weren't riding, they were passengers, their knowledge of road safety, or their parents', is irrelevant in this case. 

[Liverpool Lou]

7 hours ago, 2long said:

So very sad but most likely causes are

- kids unable to control a bike that is overweighted and the rider has little experience

The 14-year olds were not riding the bike!

[Liverpool Lou]

6 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

And again three underaged boys have an accident on motorbike

And again, a poster who does not read the OP!   One, legal age, rider had an accident with two 14-year old passengers.

[steven100]

If the bike riders slow down and look left ... right ... and left again ,   then proceed if clear ......

they would be here today.

 

sad indeed. rip young boys.

 

 

 

[Liverpool Lou]

33 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

No one was 31 years of age and it appears in charge on said bike

"No one was 31 years of age..."

What do you mean "no one was 31..."?  The rider of the bike was 31, according to the report.

[bbko]

Any thoughts on putting speed bumps at those small rural intersections?  May help slow down those that don't take the time to look left/right.

[stephenterry]

IMO, the pick up driver was at fault by excess speed and failure to be alert at the crossroads, as the crash site off road would indicate. There is little doubt in my mind that two boys killed and one older motorbike driver near death's door in hospital is not representative of a low-speed crash caused by the motorbike driver exiting the crossroads.  Yes, it's debatable - I wasn't there - and whatever, my sympathy goes out to the deceased's family. 

 

 

 

 

[RJRS1301]

13 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

"No one was 31 years of age..."

What do you mean "no one was 31..."?  The rider of the bike was 31, according to the report.

Read what I responded to, that is exactly what I said.

Perhaps I should have put a fullstop or exclamation mark between No. and    One was 31, and in charge of said bike.

 

[kamahele]

There are good traffic laws on the books for most violations, but there has to be responsible enforcement of those laws all of the time so the population drive more responsibly in my opinion. A better trained, paid and equipped police force would be a good start.

[hotchilli]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

The intersection has no lights and locals say it is an accident blackspot and action is needed by the authorities to make it safer

Any intersection becomes a black-spot if someone doesn't stop.

 

[Surasak]

8 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

Rarely, do the riders look for traffic when entering a roadway.....14 year old kids would have zero idea of road safety....their parents would never have taught them.....

"their parents would never have taught them".

Neither would anyone else, no time no knowledge.

[thailand49]

If true by the truck driver they came out from a side Soi he didn't have time to stop? 

How any sane person "This is Thailand " believes that since they are on a bike just come out never look roll the dice against kilos of steel and expect others to watch out for them? 

Then you got other locals who think putting more lighting will fix the problem?  I think for us westerner what is the problem! 

[MartinL]

1 hour ago, HarrySeaman said:

Motorbikes are usually well maintained, except for the lights, here in Thailand.  Many on the road are over 20 years old and running well.  

Turning left when emerging from a side street without checking for oncoming traffic is normal here, it is assumed that anyone approaching will slow down or stop for you.  

Can't agree on the "usually well maintained" bit. Bald, poorly inflated tyres are commonplace. Apart from my wife's bike and my own, most of the bikes belonging to friends and family are deathtraps. Front brake calipers removed because they've seized up. Brake pads worn down to the metal backing. No brake fluid. Bits and pieces tied on with string. No mirrors. In many cases, I've repaired faults only for them to recur some time later. As far as friends and family are concerned, it's not a case of being unable to afford repairs, more that they don't seem to realise that something's wrong.

 

As for "turning left when emerging from a side street" - how much of that might be due to the 'give way to the left' rule-of-the-road that I'm sure many road users are aware of? When you're approaching that side turning, it's on YOUR left so perhaps they feel they have RoW. Many seem to forget the next bit that says "provided that at any junction where a main road intersects a secondary road, the conveyance driving on the main road has the right to pass first". Maybe many don't appreciate that the four-lane highway they're joining from a single-track dirt road is classed as a "main road".

[tomyami]

how about rolling out a stop or yield policy at these junctions with an inclusion of their requirement to testing centres, schools and advertising

[transam]

8 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

What action is being called for, K.Marut to be jailed for murder after he recovers ?

You saw what happened then, do tell....????

[transam]

8 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

Rarely, do the riders look for traffic when entering a roadway.....14 year old kids would have zero idea of road safety....their parents would never have taught them.....

Thought the driver was 31....????

[mickyr55]

7 hours ago, KhunLA said:

And yet I see people respect both on a daily basis, with very few ignoring them.

 

Anti-Thai statement don't help anyone, and simply show your prejudice. 

What's anti-Thai about saying that they drive like lunatics with no regard whatsoever for road safety or laws, that's just a statement of fact, my Thai gf thinks I am mentally subnormal insisting that she wears helmet and laughs out loud when she sees kids packed on bike, saying "thats how we went to School"!!.

[transam]

7 hours ago, big dendrobenaes said:

motorbikes ARE NOT for 3 people........they are for driver and ONE pillion passenger !!!

I saw a family of five sandwiched on a bike yesterday with no helmets....????

[Kwasaki]

6 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I am often astonished when bikes pull onto the road, and do not even glance in my direction. 

I'm not astonished in anyway just wary of it happening most of the time. 

[sawadee1947]

6 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I am often astonished when bikes pull onto the road, and do not even glance in my direction. Where is the instinct for self preservation? How do you pull onto a road or a busy highway, without even a look at oncoming traffic? 

 

One must remain highly vigilant here, to avoid taking out reckless drivers, in a daily basis. My sense of it, is the skill and common sense levels are very low here. 

This comment you could repeat day by day, years by years.....????

[gerritkaew]

Iff you see the damage to the M Bike and car,, how fast must the have driven,,, 120-130km!!

The people on the motorbike did not see the race car coming and have no chance. 

 

How can you make a road safe iff all people drive like its a circuit.  

[transam]

4 minutes ago, gerritkaew said:

Iff you see the damage to the M Bike and car,, how fast must the have driven,,, 120-130km!!

The people on the motorbike did not see the race car coming and have no chance. 

 

How can you make a road safe iff all people drive like its a circuit.  

Perhaps the guy with the handlebars didn't look.....????

[TheScience]

The only thing newsworthy about this tragedy is it's yet another senseless death days after the doctor was killed.

 

And a dozen others.

 

I'm glad Prayut is all over these road problems. WHEW...I thought nothing was going to get done...

[transam]

Just now, TheScience said:

The only thing newsworthy about this tragedy is it's yet another senseless death days after the doctor was killed.

 

And a dozen others.

 

I'm glad Prayut is all over these road problems. WHEW...I thought nothing was going to get done...

He was all over it for New Year, what happened.....?  ????

[TheScience]

1 hour ago, kamahele said:

There are good traffic laws on the books for most violations, but there has to be responsible enforcement of those laws all of the time so the population drive more responsibly in my opinion. A better trained, paid and equipped police force would be a good start.

Absolutely +3

 

And jail time. No fines.

[meshborg]

Th answer in in the headline 3 on motorcycle including two 14 year olds.We all seen them an entire family including baby and shopping.Combine that with huge pick ups driven by Couldn't care less drivers and non existent traffic management and boom.

[transam]

2 minutes ago, TheScience said:

Absolutely +3

 

And jail time. No fines.

Who's going to pay for it....?

[MJCM]

31 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

I'm not astonished in anyway just wary of it happening most of the time. 

I agree with your statement and the statement of @spidermike007 one.

 

But you are 2 lane road, a motobike comes out a side road without looking to the right or left before coming onto the main road and there is a car that is coming straight ahead at you from the other direction!

 

There is nothing much you can do except SLAM the brakes and hopefully you can brake in time and don't hit anything. So yes we are all wary, but IMHO just hope you are lucky when you encounter this and have an escape route!!

 

 

 

 

[MJCM]

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[Bangkok Barry]

10 hours ago, webfact said:

the three on the bike came out of a side turning into his path

The only thing that needs fixing. He didn't add 'without looking' but we all know the chance that the bike driver did look first - slim to none.