Are we now feeling the effects of Ukraine's situation in Asia?

[Jingthing]

5 minutes ago, sscc said:

 

What is the "major challenge" as noted and underlined in the BBC article ?.  

Exposing the faces of  useless A. Blinken,  clueless and gutless J. Biden,  Paper Tiger America ( wording by deceased Mao in old days )  are major Challenge to China ? 

 

Old and smart president is OK,  but old and outdated president is not. 

J. Biden is still seeing and thinking of the world 15 years ago while he was the Vice President.

But the world had moved forward is it is NO longer Unipolar Superpower any more. 

 

 

China didn't agree with the invasion.

[sscc]

21 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

China didn't agree with the invasion.

Is China merely a bystander to the entire matter involving numerous players across Europe and the Atlantic? 

 

Should BBC have focused on about the issue of nerdy Joe Biden and Paper Tiger America act  rather than dragging China to this matter ? 

 

No wonder over century old news outlet is now Nicked as  " Biased Broadcasting Corporation " 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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29 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

China didn't agree with the invasion.

China refuses to call Russian attack on Ukraine an ‘invasion,’ deflects blame to U.S.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/24/china-refuses-to-call-attack-on-ukraine-an-invasion-blames-us.html

[garyk]

17 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

Stocks and Energy Markets Whipsaw After Russian Attack on Ukraine
Stocks in Europe were sharply lower, but the S&P 500 rebounded after an early decline. Energy markets swung wildly, and shares in Moscow collapsed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/24/business/economy/stock-market-today.html
Feb. 24, 2022
Updated 4:31 p.m. ET (meaning 4:31 AM 25 FEB Bangkok time)

 

I was quick on the draw.  I bought a small amount of index  funds the day before the invasion. And bought the S&P 500 fund the day before the invasion. The morning of the invasion I doubled my index fund purchase and put in a call for the S&P 500. Which I canceled at the end of the day. Crazy.

I had read some statistics saying this is how it usually played out.

Edited February 25, 2022 by garyk

[Banana7]

Some Russians in Pattaya, or others with Russian rubles, will be suffering since some exchange booths/houses are no longer accepting rubles.

 

 

[garyk]

30 minutes ago, placeholder said:

China refuses to call Russian attack on Ukraine an ‘invasion,’ deflects blame to U.S.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/24/china-refuses-to-call-attack-on-ukraine-an-invasion-blames-us.html

And Russia will not call the invasion of Taiwan a invasion.

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3 minutes ago, garyk said:

And Russia will not call the invasion of Taiwan a invasion.

In the scheme of things, Russia's support of China matter's a lot less than China's support of Russia.

[Saanim]

1 hour ago, Banana7 said:

Some Russians in Pattaya, or others with Russian rubles, will be suffering since some exchange booths/houses are no longer accepting rubles.

As a matter of fact, who will suffer are the Pattaya shops, hotels, restaurants, etc, they have been enjoying the payments of Russian tourists.  Much more than from the time before they started to write on their sideboards "Zdes govorit poruski". 

 

They confirm that the Russians knows how to celebrate and spend, quite differently from the tourists of the bygone era who knew only beer ordering.   

[heybruce]

7 hours ago, sscc said:

 

What is the "major challenge" as noted and underlined in the BBC article ?.  

Exposing the faces of  useless A. Blinken,  clueless and gutless J. Biden,  Paper Tiger America ( wording by deceased Mao in old days )  are major Challenge to China ? 

 

Old and smart president is OK,  but old and outdated president is not. 

J. Biden is still seeing and thinking of the world 15 years ago while he was the Vice President.

But the world had moved forward is it is NO longer Unipolar Superpower any more. 

 

 

What is the "major challenge"?  China rejects all outside criticism of its internal affairs and justifies working with contemptible regimes with the excuse/rationale that countries must not interfere with other countries internal affairs. 

 

Now China's buddy Russia has invaded another country with no defensible excuse.  That's about as big an interference of another country's internal affairs as one can commit.

 

Regarding the rest of your post; it is clearly an attempt to divert to discussion away from Russia's criminal actions.

Edited February 25, 2022 by heybruce

[jerrymahoney]

10 hours ago, garyk said:

I was quick on the draw.  I bought a small amount of index  funds the day before the invasion. And bought the S&P 500 fund the day before the invasion. The morning of the invasion I doubled my index fund purchase and put in a call for the S&P 500. Which I canceled at the end of the day. Crazy.

I had read some statistics saying this is how it usually played out.

Well I might have been quick on the draw too but I spent all my available cash on your recommendation to be able to get out of Thailand on a RAPID DEPARTUE.

Edited February 26, 2022 by jerrymahoney

[aussiexpat]

Not surprising, Russia vetoed the UN Security Council resolution that called on Russia to halt the attack on Ukraine and withdraw troops. So resolution lost even though voted 11-1 (with China, UAE and India abstaining)

 

What I find dissapointing is that the UN members closest to the Asia-Pacific region all abstained. I understand China, but why did India and UAE not vote against Russia?

 

Edited February 26, 2022 by aussiexpat

[NanLaew]

10 hours ago, sscc said:

Should BBC have focused on about the issue of nerdy Joe Biden and Paper Tiger America act  rather than dragging China to this matter ? 

No. No need. You're doing fine on your own.

[Eric Loh]

Asia will feel the effects of the Ukraine situation from slow down in economic growth in the European Union countries through higher energy prices and lower business confidence and to some extent trade. European Union countries are major trading partners for many Asian countries. The higher energy prices will also directly impact Asia economies and on commodities. Asia governments will have to be ready with fiscal policies to meet those challenges on top of the Omicron surge and US impending rate hike. 

 

[heybruce]

30 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Asia will feel the effects of the Ukraine situation from slow down in economic growth in the European Union countries through higher energy prices and lower business confidence and to some extent trade. European Union countries are major trading partners for many Asian countries. The higher energy prices will also directly impact Asia economies and on commodities. Asia governments will have to be ready with fiscal policies to meet those challenges on top of the Omicron surge and US impending rate hike. 

 

Wow!  Actually on-topic. 

 

Also quite correct.  The rising energy prices may put the world into recession, with the countries most dependent on imported energy hit the hardest.  It could also keep Thailand's tourist industry derailed, which will continue to hurt a lot of Thai people.

[John Drake]

2 hours ago, aussiexpat said:

I understand China, but why did India and UAE not vote against Russia?

In the case of India, it is because Russia is their primary ally, the source of nearly all their military hardware. So, no surprise they sided with Russia. What is surprising is the US continues to allow India to colonize the United States and monopolize the H1B visa program. 

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, John Drake said:

In the case of India, it is because Russia is their primary ally, the source of nearly all their military hardware. So, no surprise they sided with Russia. What is surprising is the US continues to allow India to colonize the United States and monopolize the H1B visa program. 

The first part is true.

The second part is white nationalist hate speech.

[Hummin]

15 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Pretty much but then the really hard part begins for Russia.

No doubt, and maybe Putin is most surprised China sit still and waiting. He might have been lead to believe China would also made a move right after invasion of Ukraine and, but so far not happens. 

 

Putin seems a bit more stressed and on the edge lately.

 

Hope for soon removal of Putin for all of us best. 

[Jingthing]

8 minutes ago, Hummin said:

No doubt, and maybe Putin is most surprised China sit still and waiting. He might have been lead to believe China would also made a move right after invasion of Ukraine and, but so far not happens. 

 

Putin seems a bit more stressed and on the edge lately.

 

Hope for soon removal of Putin for all of us best. 

The level of anti war protest in his own country can't be pleasant to him either.

Russia without Putin, Ukraine without Russian puppets, wouldn't that be lovely?

[heybruce]

36 minutes ago, Hummin said:

No doubt, and maybe Putin is most surprised China sit still and waiting. He might have been lead to believe China would also made a move right after invasion of Ukraine and, but so far not happens. 

 

Putin seems a bit more stressed and on the edge lately.

 

Hope for soon removal of Putin for all of us best. 

I'm concerned that Putin has lost his grip on reality and will double down on his colossal mistake of invading Ukraine by doing something even crazier.

 

20 minutes ago, Hummin said:

A ukraine like Finland without <deleted> from Russia and Nato. It is a dangerous game played by both parts. 

Russia is forcing itself on Ukraine, and has been doing so for many years.  That is dangerous.

 

Ukraine wants to join NATO, but NATO has been keeping Ukraine at arms length for many years.  How is that dangerous?

[heybruce]

3 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I have seen that,  ut we will see.

 

Alot have been said by  many, and so far none have lived up the what they said. I aggree it is a game changer but provoked by who? 

Provoked by Russia, obviously.

[KhunLA]

9 minutes ago, Hummin said:

 annection of Crimea. 
 

 

I can understand that .. IF .. Crimea truly wanted out of Ukraine.   Understand helping the Donetsk People's Republic and the Luhansk People's Republic wanting out and Russia's help with that... IF ... that's also true.

 

But going into Ukraine itself ... that's a head scratcher.   Also think Putin bit off a wee bit more than he can chew ... that's embarrassing.  Watching it unfold on twitter ???? ... not going as planned.

[sscc]

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

No doubt, and maybe Putin is most surprised China sit still and waiting. He might have been lead to believe China would also made a move right after invasion of Ukraine and, but so far not happens. 

 

Putin seems a bit more stressed and on the edge lately.

 

Hope for soon removal of Putin for all of us best. 

Putin had said in a public interview just three months ago   that China do not  need to execute military operation to take Taiwan.    What is your point :  " Putin is most surprised China sit still and waiting. "   ???

      

[Daithi85]

On 2/25/2022 at 12:40 PM, NanaSomchai said:

As long as you're putting food on their table and you keep flashing bank notes in their direction.

 

Want to see the real face of the Thais? Run this rather simple experiment:

 

Come up to them with a sob story, tell them that an incident happened in your home country, tell them your bank froze your assets and you are flat broke for the foreseeable future, see how long the "smiles" remain on their faces.

 

You will be surprised.

I hear what your saying,but my own experiences living here seem to be an awful lot different than yours. 

[aussiexpat]

1 minute ago, heybruce said:

How many times does this have to be posted?

None in this thread, which is supposed to be about the invasion effects felt in Asia ????

[candide]

48 minutes ago, heybruce said:

As has been explained before, NATO never promised to not extend or expand. 

 

No county was ever forced to join NATO.  They all joined voluntarily, often eagerly.

 

Why is it that generally the closer a European country is to Russia the more eager it is to join NATO?  The only exceptions I know are Finland and Belarus, and Finland is reconsidering its nonaligned status.

 

Russia caused the expansion of NATO by bullying its neighbors.  Russia's invasion of Ukraine will make NATO even more popular and cohesive.

 

Biden didn't cause this war, Putin did.

Exactly. Russia has absolutely no soft power. Putin is a fail. Even Ukraine, despite its cultural and historical proximity, doesn't want to be associated with Russia. 

As he also failed to develop his country, Russia has not much economic power to exert (unlike China)

Needing to exert military power is a proof of failure

[heybruce]

16 minutes ago, aussiexpat said:

None in this thread, which is supposed to be about the invasion effects felt in Asia ????

True, but when people use and re-use lies to defend the indefensible, it provokes a reaction.  Lies repeated over and over without being challenged are accepted as the truth in many simple minds.

[lapamita]

42 minutes ago, candide said:

Russia has not much economic power to exert (unlike China)

Needing to exert military power is a proof of failure

russia increased BIP by 30 fold during 1992 -2020  by 30 fold

i think most of the experts here never know or travel to russia or the satelitte states of russia, where MANY happy that they stay in the eastern uninon, not only politicans

https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/19373/umfrage/bruttoinlandsprodukt-in-russland/

MILITARY POWER .. than the USA failed already many times .... but the USA  not failed , so this reading is wrong.

 

 

[CharlieH]

And yet more off topic wanderings and responses removed.

Keep this up and a certain group will lose the ability to post anything !

[aussiexpat]

I'm hoping Russia, China, India and UAE flights are banned from all Asia-Pacific countries

 

Unproked Russia invades Ukraine, and then UAE, India and China abstain from voting against this atrocity, therefore providing support to Russia 

 

Coincidence Thailand is trying to attract Russia, China, India and UAE to Thailand right now...think not, pretty sure if Thailand was a rotating UN member they also would have abstained to support their friends

 

Make a stand Thailand!

Edited February 26, 2022 by aussiexpat

[aussiexpat]

@roo860 what's so funny about India, UAE and China being aligned with Russia, therefore they should all be treated the same (just like Balarus is facing sanctions for supporting Russia) 

Edited February 26, 2022 by aussiexpat