Assault on Kiev: Russian helicopters swoop above Ukraine's capital

[Kwasaki]

1 hour ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Why don't you just crawl back under your Russian bridge, okay?

No I'm in 4th generation Tank, the food is terrible.

[Slip]

7 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

I find France 24 reasonable news. 

Surprised that one of there reporters reported that the  Russians were firing on military targets and many missiles being intercepted were falling close to civilain area and he had seen houses destroyed by missiles brought down. 

 

Those terrible Ukranians, shooting down missiles launched at their civilian population in an illegal genocide.  Shills gonna shill.

[Kwasaki]

2 hours ago, tgw said:

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-health-europe-c0f2f859296f9f02be24fc9edfca1085

 

watch the video until the end, especially the deniers here

Whose denying the hospital was hit except Russia.

[Slip]

1 hour ago, RJRS1301 said:

well they will bring down the tone of the neighbourhood, and unfortunately wreck the place and steal art and valuables.

I thought that was Trump.  Cut from the same cloth I guess.

[ozimoron]

After two wars and the destruction of Grozny, Chechnya, in 1999–2000, Russia spends as much as US$3.8 billion (£2.9 billion) a year sustaining its regime in the country. Any decrease in monetary transfers would put Russia at risk of further insurgency, and Crimea costs Russia a comparable amount.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/russias-economy-will-struggle-to-pay-the-price-of-invading-ukraine/

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

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“What is going on here is that the West is leading Ukraine down the primrose path..."

 

Funny, at other points in the past, this same history professor has written that Ukraine never should have given up its huge post-Soviet nuclear arsenal because of past Russian aggression and territorial ambitions.

 

"In the summer of 1993, John J. Mearsheimer, a prominent international relations theorist at the University of Chicago who was no stranger to controversy, lent his voice to the issue of atomic retention. He argued in Foreign Affairs that a nuclear arsenal was “imperative” if Ukraine was “to maintain peace.” The deterrent, he added, would ensure that the Russians, “who have a history of bad relations with Ukraine, do not move to reconquer it.”

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/05/science/ukraine-nuclear-weapons.html

 

Yes, that's exactly where we are today.

 

It was Russia, the US and the UK who formally agreed, in exchange for Ukraine giving up its nukes, to honor its future national sovereignty. And right now and at least from 2014 onward, Russia has been blatantly reneging on that promise.

 

[Yellowtail]

37 minutes ago, Slip said:

Those terrible Ukranians, shooting down missiles launched at their civilian population in an illegal genocide.  Shills gonna shill.

They're as bad as the Israelis. 

[Bkk Brian]

Welcome to the forum and your first post..................

 

Vladimir Putin’s apologists spread dangerous message

 

The standard-bearer of the pro-Putin realists is John Mearsheimer, a professor at the University of Chicago, who has made a career out of reducing the complexity of global politics to the aggression of self-interested powers. In the process, he studiously ignores their internal politics. One obvious advantage of this approach is that it considerably reduces the amount of research and knowledge that is required to dispense authoritative judgments about the conduct of any particular country.

 

https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/vladimir-putins-apologists-spread-dangerous-message-20150129-130snb.html

Edited March 14, 2022 by Rimmer
quoted reply of removed removed

[Kwasaki]

31 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Let’s just examine this blind obedience to Putin’s ‘right’ to do as he pleases.

 

Ukraine is a sovereign nation and as a sovereign nation has the absolute right and duty to defend its territorial integrity.

 

To do so Ukrainian needs weapons.

 

As a sovereign nation Ukrainian has an absolute right to acquire and deploy any weapons that do not breach international law/treaties/conventions in pursuit of its right and duty to defend its territorial integrity.

 

If a rogue nation illegally attacks Ukraine it is the rogue nation’s illegal attack that is the cause of all ensuing deaths and distruction.

 

If the rogue nation does not illegally attack, the deaths and distraction do not occur.

 

Only a blind obedient to the lies and propaganda of such a rogue nation would argue otherwise.

 

All I see is Ukraine's resistance is futile and will just cause great loses of life on both sides and the destruction of cities for not just considering there unprotected position at this present time in there history, it's voluntary emotional suicide.

The pressure and sanctions on Putin & Russia could still continue to be inforced and with patients he will be replaced.

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, DaveE13 said:

I see on sky news the £25 million pound mansion in Belgravia owned by an oligarch has now got Squatters.

It is owned by Oleg Deripaska who was put on the sanctions list by UK government on 10th of March.

 

I had squatters once. Pretty bad too. My doc, a stand-up guy, told me to buy a proper commode and presto! All was good.

Hoping that a light-hearted interlude is permitted.at this time?? 

 

 

[Rimmer]

Unapproved videos dating from 2015 have been removed

[sammieuk1]

2 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

well they will bring down the tone of the neighbourhood, and unfortunately wreck the place and steal art and valuables.

Sure that wont be the case and they will lift the lid and flush accordingly sadly in the kitchen though ???? 

[rudi49jr]

Russian man chains himself to Macdonalds to stop it from closing. Who said sanctions didn't work?

 

https://opoyi.com/english/russian-man-chains-himself-to-mcdonalds-outlet-to-stop-it-from-closing

[Chomper Higgot]

36 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

All I see is Ukraine's resistance is futile and will just cause great loses of life on both sides and the destruction of cities for not just considering there unprotected position at this present time in there history, it's voluntary emotional suicide.

The pressure and sanctions on Putin & Russia could still continue to be inforced and with patients he will be replaced.

There is absolutely nothing ‘voluntary’ in the predicament the Ukranians have had force upon them.

 

Quit with your victim blaming and support for the viscous aggressor.

 

 

[ozimoron]

Newsmax interview goes off the rails when Ukrainian MP unloads profanity on Putin

 

https://www.rawstory.com/alexey-goncharenko-vladimir-putin/

[DaveE13]

2 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

Russian man chains himself to Macdonalds to stop it from closing. Who said sanctions didn't work?

 

https://opoyi.com/english/russian-man-chains-himself-to-mcdonalds-outlet-to-stop-it-from-closing

Don't go Volnald don't go????

[heybruce]

12 hours ago, Saanim said:

Quite amused when hearing about "sovereign nation". 

Can a nation be really "sovereign" when some others tell them who should be made a PM and who should get the other functions?  Not speaking about other firm requests, e. g., who to fire...

 

I see...You think the US is not a sovereign nation because Russia interfered in elections.

 

I think that so long as the voters decide, a nation is still sovereign.  That is the case in both the US and Ukraine.

[sammieuk1]

Rip ????

 

[RJRS1301]

4 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

Rip ????

 

The tragedy is that the world will never know how many pregnant women have miscarried , or died, also people with disabilities or children in hospitals. We never find those things out, they are all lumbers together as deaths or" casualties" (terrible term) of war. 

[Kwasaki]

11 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 

Quit with your victim blaming and support for the viscous aggressor.

 

What and join the club of catastrophic hypocrisy no thanks. 

 

Edited March 15, 2022 by Kwasaki

[Kwasaki]

2 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

The tragedy is that the world will never know how many pregnant women have miscarried , or died, also people with disabilities or children in hospitals. We never find those things out, they are all lumbers together as deaths or" casualties" (terrible term) of war. 

The same same with any war the innocent are also the victims.

Edited March 15, 2022 by Kwasaki

[Kwasaki]

11 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

Russian man chains himself to Macdonalds to stop it from closing. Who said sanctions didn't work?

 

https://opoyi.com/english/russian-man-chains-himself-to-mcdonalds-outlet-to-stop-it-from-closing

Why doesn't he occupy the shop and get the staff back to run it. 

[Bkk Brian]

Vile video shown on Russian TV yesterday, just about the lowest of the low.

 

"With discussions about the death penalty, potential hangings & not letting morality stand in the way, Russian state TV is obviously working to desensitize the public for the upcoming atrocities in Ukraine. Case in point, this clip from Sunday's show (warning: sensitive content)."

 

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1503210849166577667

 

[RJRS1301]

20 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Why doesn't he occupy the shop and get the staff back to run it. 

Perhaps there is a supply chain problem, and lack of knowledge of how to do so.

 

[ozimoron]

1 hour ago, Kwasaki said:

What and join the club of catastrophic hypocrisy no thanks. 

 

The catastrophic hypocrisy is failure to blame the aggressor. Substituting whataboutism is cowardly.

Edited March 15, 2022 by ozimoron

[mikebike]

14 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

All I see is Ukraine's resistance is futile and will just cause great loses of life on both sides and the destruction of cities for not just considering there unprotected position at this present time in there history, it's voluntary emotional suicide.

The pressure and sanctions on Putin & Russia could still continue to be inforced and with patients he will be replaced.

Ukraine's resistance is inevitable if you understand even a tiny bit of their 20th century history.

 

Also, success or futility of a resistance effort is never a consideration in the minds of the resistors.

[Scott]

Off-topic post and reply removed.  Stay on topic, please.

 

[jollyhangmon]

1 hour ago, RJRS1301 said:

Perhaps there is a supply chain problem, and lack of knowledge of how to do so.

 

 

... hehehe, yeah, Njetflix, Rutube & a Commieburger ... what's not to love ...?!

 

[tgw]

14 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

All I see is Ukraine's resistance is futile and will just cause great loses of life on both sides and the destruction of cities for not just considering there unprotected position at this present time in there history, it's voluntary emotional suicide.

The pressure and sanctions on Putin & Russia could still continue to be inforced and with patients he will be replaced.

disgusting.

the CAUSE for the loss of life is Russia's attack.

 

also, Ukraine's resistance is not futile.

as things are now, Russia will never be able to subdue Ukraine, even should they ever take Lviv or murder the President. By now its clear that Russia cannot control Ukraine. Russia would need 1.000.000 men just to maintain order in the main cities while probably losing hundreds of soldiers every day to attacks of the Ukrainian resistance.

[Kwasaki]

44 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

The catastrophic hypocrisy is failure to blame the aggressor. Substituting whataboutism is cowardly.

Whataboutism history is the reason for Putin carrying out his so called rescue mission of Ukraine.