Assault on Kiev: Russian helicopters swoop above Ukraine's capital

[coolcarer]

Just noticed this from a UK Defense Ministry Update a couple of days ago, the incredible amount of armored vehicles that Russia has been losing daily.

 

In mid-October, in the face of Ukrainian offensives, Russian armoured vehicles losses increased to over 40 a day: roughly equivalent to a battalion’s worth of equipment.

 

https://twitter.com/defencehq/status/1588054917234802689?s=61&t=ZZyNiclHXBw_leaHM3Gu6Q

 

[Mavideol]

Another example why the UN is obsolete and needs to be restructured and remove veto power from the Chinetoques and Ruskoffs, at the security council... both don't respect international law nor human rights and both don't respect the UN charter of non agression

US and its allies clash with China, Russia at UN Security Council over North Korea missiles

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-05/us-allies-clash-with-china-russia-over-north-korea-missiles/101620436

 

Russia, China "protecting" N. Korea at UN - U.S.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-china-protecting-n-korea-070258784.html

[BarraMarra]

No Evidence yet on the Russian lies referring to the UK Involvement in the black Sea

[rudi49jr]

1 minute ago, BarraMarra said:

No Evidence yet on the Russian lies referring to the UK Involvement in the black Sea

Don’t hold your breath. And if they do provide evidence it should be examined very thoroughly, because it will most likely be fabricated.

[rudi49jr]

How Russian soldiers ran a cleansing operation in Bucha.

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/how-russian-soldiers-ran-a-cleansing-operation-in-bucha-ukraine

 

This proves that what happened in Bucha was not ‘random’, but planned and strategic. All the more reason to have a war tribunal when this is over, to identify and punish those responsible for all the atrocities committed by the Russians. 

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[Bkk Brian]

26 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

How Russian soldiers ran a cleansing operation in Bucha.

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/how-russian-soldiers-ran-a-cleansing-operation-in-bucha-ukraine

 

This proves that what happened in Bucha was not ‘random’, but planned and strategic. All the more reason to have a war tribunal when this is over, to identify and punish those responsible for all the atrocities committed by the Russians. 

The video report for the above. 

 

How Russian soldiers ran a ‘cleansing’ operation in the Ukrainian city

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW8YYhUIK0s

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

Russia needs to sort out its lies and get everyone singing to the same tune...............????

 

Ukraine war latest: Iran admits sending weapons to Russia after denials

A significant development has emerged from Iran this morning regarding the "kamikaze" Shahed-136 drones Ukraine claims have been used in the war.

Hossein Amirabdollahian, the country's foreign minister, has acknowledged for the first time that his country supplied Russia with these drones.

However, he insisted that the transfer took place months before Moscow's war on Ukraine.

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-latest-russia-signals-retreat-in-kherson-but-kyiv-fears-trap-mod-says-russian-commanders-probably-ordered-to-shoot-deserters-12541713?postid=4810814#liveblog-body

[candide]

5 minutes ago, Black Ops said:

 

Several analyst think it may be a trap. Knowing how desperate Putin is, it may not be a trap using conventional means.

[bannork]

'Send the young to die, it's much cheaper, no need to support widows and children.'

When will the cannon fodder revolt?

 

[rudi49jr]

3 minutes ago, bannork said:

'Send the young to die, it's much cheaper, no need to support widows and children.'

When will the cannon fodder revolt?

 

They’re getting crazier by the day. But by all means, send the young to die and wipe out an entire generation. And feel the results for years to come as Russia tries to rebuild the economy and there are not nearly enough young people to fill all the vacancies. 
Do these pundits ever think things through? Or do they just utter every brain fart that pops up in their minds? My money is on the latter. 

[heybruce]

29 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

They’re getting crazier by the day. But by all means, send the young to die and wipe out an entire generation. And feel the results for years to come as Russia tries to rebuild the economy and there are not nearly enough young people to fill all the vacancies. 
Do these pundits ever think things through? Or do they just utter every brain fart that pops up in their minds? My money is on the latter. 

I think Putin was blinded by his desire to rebuild the Russian empire as it existed under the Soviet Union, and is now desperately trying to avoid a loss that could mean the end of his reign, and possibly the end of his life.

 

You are correct about the consequences:  Russia was facing a demographic crisis before the war, which has been made much worse by the wasted lives and exodus of young people.  Russia will be weakened for decades, perhaps permanently.

[rudi49jr]

1 hour ago, heybruce said:

I think Putin was blinded by his desire to rebuild the Russian empire as it existed under the Soviet Union, and is now desperately trying to avoid a loss that could mean the end of his reign, and possibly the end of his life.

 

You are correct about the consequences:  Russia was facing a demographic crisis before the war, which has been made much worse by the wasted lives and exodus of young people.  Russia will be weakened for decades, perhaps permanently.

I think Putin is a tiny little narcissist with a huge inferiority complex. I feel sorry for Russia that such a psychopath and the clique around him can screw up a country like they’re doing. So many lives devastated, both literally and figuratively.
Russia could have been a completely different country, open and democratic and prospering, but instead the selfish elite chose to rob the country blind, tell the people nothing but lies and brutally suppress any kind of opposition. I really wonder what’s to become of such a sick country. But then again, I wonder the same about the USA, the way things are going there. 

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, bannork said:

'Send the young to die, it's much cheaper, no need to support widows and children.'

When will the cannon fodder revolt?

 

The cannon fodder revolting is called mutiny and usually ends very badly for the mutineers.

[rudi49jr]

4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The cannon fodder revolting is called mutiny and usually ends very badly for the mutineers.

The cannon fodder revolting can also be called ‘revolution’ or ‘uprising’ and can (and hopefully will) end very badly for those in power who are sending all these men to the slaughter.

[candide]

8 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The cannon fodder revolting is called mutiny and usually ends very badly for the mutineers.

Well, the cannon fodder is expected to die anyway. It's just about chosing how to die.

[thaibeachlovers]

3 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

The cannon fodder revolting can also be called ‘revolution’ or ‘uprising’ and can (and hopefully will) end very badly for those in power who are sending all these men to the slaughter.

Indeed, it ended badly for the Tzar, but what odds do you give it happening again now?

[rudi49jr]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Indeed, it ended badly for the Tzar, but what odds do you give it happening again now?

I have no idea, the odds are probably hugely against them, but they’re going to have to try something to get rid of that fascist regime, otherwise a lot more lives are going to be lost or ruined.

[bannork]

Take this with a pinch of salt or something stronger but I read recently that the Russians have three lines. The second line is ordered to shoot the front line if they retreat, the third line similarly to shoot the second if they withdraw!

[rudi49jr]

14 minutes ago, bannork said:

Take this with a pinch of salt or something stronger but I read recently that the Russians have three lines. The second line is ordered to shoot the front line if they retreat, the third line similarly to shoot the second if they withdraw!

I wouldn’t be surprised at all, the Russian army has a long history of this kind of madness, dating back to (at least) WWII, when soldiers without weapons were ordered to advance and when they didn’t they were shot. That pretty much tells you how little the Russian army has evolved since then.

[Rimmer]

Off topic post and reply has been removed

[Saanim]

16 hours ago, bannork said:

Take this with a pinch of salt or something stronger but I read recently that the Russians have three lines. The second line is ordered to shoot the front line if they retreat, the third line similarly to shoot the second if they withdraw!

Do you have a plausible attribution to your statement?

 

16 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

I wouldn’t be surprised at all, the Russian army has a long history of this kind of madness, dating back to (at least) WWII, when soldiers without weapons were ordered to advance and when they didn’t they were shot. That pretty much tells you how little the Russian army has evolved since then.

Do you have a plausible attribution to your statement?

[bannork]

Is it me or does the audience look bored stuff listening to this drivel?

 

[bannork]

17 minutes ago, Saanim said:

Do you have a plausible attribution to your statement?

 

Do you have a plausible attribution to your statement?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11361499/Russia-setting-second-line-troops-line-SHOOT-fleeing-combat.html

[bannork]

 

[Saanim]

57 minutes ago, bannork said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11361499/Russia-setting-second-line-troops-line-SHOOT-fleeing-combat.html

Do you truly believe everything what you read on internet?  

[Bkk Brian]

The Russian Federation’s Ongoing Aggression Against Ukraine

Russia’s desperate attempts to take its frustrations out on civilians will not achieve its desired aims, while Russia has been manufacturing international crises and stoking fear of nuclear weapons usage, Ukraine has continued to heroically liberate its sovereign territory. 

We cannot allow Russia’s forces to get away with torture, sexual-based violence, and forced deportations,  the sooner Ukrainian forces liberate their land, the sooner these bestial practices will end.  The United States’ commitment to Ukraine has been and will remain ironclad and we will put an end to this madness.

https://osce.usmission.gov/the-russian-federations-ongoing-aggression-against-ukraine-30/

[Bkk Brian]

18 hours ago, bannork said:

Take this with a pinch of salt or something stronger but I read recently that the Russians have three lines. The second line is ordered to shoot the front line if they retreat, the third line similarly to shoot the second if they withdraw!

Well the head of Wagner did warn and say this:

 

Yevgeniy Prigozhin paces about a large group of prisoners, giving them the hard sell on joining the Russian war effort. He offers them a deal: six months of service in return for a pardon for their crimes. But, should they arrive in Ukraine and refuse to fight, they will be considered deserters and shot.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/wagner-group-exposed-recruiting-russian-prisoners-for-ukraine/

 

Russia may be ready to shoot its retreating and deserting soldiers in Ukraine, according to Britain's Defense Ministry's daily update on Russia's war on Ukraine.

"Due to low morale and reluctance to fight, Russian forces have probably started deploying 'barrier troops' or 'blocking units," Friday's intelligence update said. "These units threaten to shoot their own retreating soldiers in order to compel offensives and have been used in previous conflicts by Russian forces."

https://www.voanews.com/a/uk-russia-may-be-ready-to-shoot-retreating-and-deserting-soldiers/6819757.html

[Mavideol]

53 minutes ago, Saanim said:

Do you truly believe everything what you read on internet?  

you asked for a source, @bannork provided you with source, unfortunately is not what you were expecting and it doesn't fit your narrative then normal reply from you " sadly" is a deflection, you do it quite often

[ballpoint]

18 hours ago, bannork said:

Take this with a pinch of salt or something stronger but I read recently that the Russians have three lines. The second line is ordered to shoot the front line if they retreat, the third line similarly to shoot the second if they withdraw!

My bet is the first line would retreat to find the second and third have already fled the scene.