steven100 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 source:https://www.yahoo.com/news/putins-plane-reportedly-departs-moscow-133300722.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 (edited) Well that was an insane 24 hours that ended up with nothing. My personal opinion on this is that Prigozhin and Putin are still friends , and they agreed to remove the military leaders who they feel are weak. Now Prigozhin will get the weapons he asked for , he will get another base in Belarus and all hell will break loose. Be prepared for the worst. Edited June 25, 2023 by balo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BarraMarra Posted June 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2023 Time is right now while Progozhin is on a high for a SAS squad to snatch him and get him in the war crime court. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 1 hour ago, balo said: Well that was an insane 24 hours that ended up with nothing. My personal opinion on this is that Prigozhin and Putin are still friends , and they agreed to remove the military leaders who they feel are weak. Now Prigozhin will get the weapons he asked for , he will get another base in Belarus and all hell will break loose. Be prepared for the worst. Could easily be you're right. For the moment what transpired doesn't make much sense, it could be interpreted in many different ways. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 1 hour ago, balo said: Well that was an insane 24 hours that ended up with nothing. My personal opinion on this is that Prigozhin and Putin are still friends , and they agreed to remove the military leaders who they feel are weak. Now Prigozhin will get the weapons he asked for , he will get another base in Belarus and all hell will break loose. Be prepared for the worst. And, let's not forget the tactical nukes that were sent to Belarus. Has he been given control of them, so Putin can (try to) wash his hands of any involvement should they be used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 3 hours ago, tgw said: there are videos of fighting inside Rostov and explosion of vehicles on the highway. looks pretty much real. was it verified to be truth or just another Russian make to believe video, they are good at that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarraMarra Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 34 minutes ago, Mavideol said: was it verified to be truth or just another Russian make to believe video, they are good at that just propaganda for the Russian sheep " Look at how I deal with mutineers " Why was there no dead in the convoy the chopper fired on? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, BarraMarra said: just propaganda for the Russian sheep " Look at how I deal with mutineers " Why was there no dead in the convoy the chopper fired on? yes, don't you think a chopper firing at a convoy of 400 vehicles would hit something, and if this was serious wouldn't there be more than just one chopper .... haha ....... I think it was all staged by Putin & Wagner. jimo The Russians are experts at faking war games. Edited June 25, 2023 by steven100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 If this wasn't a rehearsed stage act between Putin & Wagner then I don't know what is .... it's faked ..... imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvs Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 This guy is very busy,he can be at two places at the same time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 1 hour ago, steven100 said: If this wasn't a rehearsed stage act between Putin & Wagner then I don't know what is .... it's faked ..... imo Putin came off like a weak assed b running away from Moscow liked a scared puppy. So you're saying he planned that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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steven100 Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 10 hours ago, Jingthing said: Putin came off like a weak assed b running away from Moscow liked a scared puppy. So you're saying he planned that? well, we don't know for sure but seems mighty strange to have just one chopper firing on a convoy of 400 vehicles and even then can't hit one. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, steven100 said: well, we don't know for sure but seems mighty strange to have just one chopper firing on a convoy of 400 vehicles and even then can't hit one. Lol Consider that almost all of the active military is focused on Ukraine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Consider that almost all of the active military is focused on Ukraine. you mean like no spare soldiers or equipment ..... could be right ... I was sorry we didn't see a tank shoot a big hole in one of those hi rise buildings .. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) yes, maybe he better wipe every door handle he uses from now on .... source:yahoo/news/NBC https://www.yahoo.com/news/prigozhin-won-t-last-60-135900605.html Edited June 26, 2023 by steven100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bkk Brian Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 50 minutes ago, tgw said: Don't normally bother watching the youtube vids but this has some good information and opinions including the confirmation of the downed Russian helicopters and plane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarraMarra Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 14 hours ago, Jingthing said: Putin came off like a weak assed b running away from Moscow liked a scared puppy. So you're saying he planned that? Explain to us Jingthhing that a supposedly massive convoy in a straight line could not be hit by rockets from an assault Chopper from close range. 1 could hit a fuel depot but couldn't hit a column of vehicles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarraMarra Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 GMTV are reporting this morning that the bully boy's from the Kremlin said if Wagner does not retreat there families will suffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 15 hours ago, Jingthing said: Putin came off like a weak assed b running away from Moscow liked a scared puppy. So you're saying he planned that? it was all part of the "theatrical" rehearsal .... but Prigozhin last minute u turn it's a little strange, was he expecting backup from the FSB and it didn't materialize 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 17 minutes ago, Mavideol said: it was all part of the "theatrical" rehearsal .... but Prigozhin last minute u turn it's a little strange, was he expecting backup from the FSB and it didn't materialize There are many theories but whatever is happening, this story isn't nearly over. But Putin has been badly degraded. How he deals with that is unknown to us, but it's possible he's already made a personal survival escape deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroveHillWanderer Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, BarraMarra said: GMTV are reporting this morning that the bully boy's from the Kremlin said if Wagner does not retreat there families will suffer. Still unconfirmed but I also read the same thing on a number of different sources. Supposedly the GRU and FSB rounded up the families of all the Wagner members they could find and used that as leverage to get Prigozhin to turn his forces around. Edited June 26, 2023 by GroveHillWanderer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 4 hours ago, BarraMarra said: GMTV are reporting this morning that the bully boy's from the Kremlin said if Wagner does not retreat there families will suffer. and I thought many of Wagner's fighters were foreigners, Syrians, Iraqis, Libya, etc.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroveHillWanderer Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Mavideol said: and I thought many of Wagner's fighters were foreigners, Syrians, Iraqis, Libya, etc.... I think you're getting confused. 95% of Wagner's personnel are Russian, with most of the others being Ukrainians, Armenians, Kazakhs and Moldovans. They've fought in Syria and Libya but they don't recruit from there, as far as I can tell. Edited June 26, 2023 by GroveHillWanderer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 Putin makes a brief speech, now also confirming the deaths of some Russian pilots: "Putin said some Russian pilots had died in the fighting. Prigozhin previously said 30 Wagner fighters had been killed." "Prigozhin said the Wagner Group did not attack any Russian soldiers "on the ground" but acknowledged that they fired back on military forces that had allegedly attacked Wagner fighters from the air." https://www.npr.org/2023/06/26/1184390064/putin-speech-prigozhin-wagner-group-deal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 12 hours ago, Mavideol said: and I thought many of Wagner's fighters were foreigners, Syrians, Iraqis, Libya, etc.... I thought the majority were from Russian prisons. That's where he was recruiting the bulk of them until it got stopped. Video Reveals How Russian Mercenaries Recruit Inmates https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/16/world/europe/russia-wagner-ukraine-video.html UN experts alarmed by recruitment of prisoners by “Wagner Group” https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/03/russian-federation-un-experts-alarmed-recruitment-prisoners-wagner-group 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said: I thought the majority were from Russian prisons. That's where he was recruiting the bulk of them until it got stopped. Video Reveals How Russian Mercenaries Recruit Inmates https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/16/world/europe/russia-wagner-ukraine-video.html UN experts alarmed by recruitment of prisoners by “Wagner Group” https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/03/russian-federation-un-experts-alarmed-recruitment-prisoners-wagner-group And now those criminals are allowed to move to Belarus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 source:https://www.yahoo.com/news/prigozhin-already-started-brand-threat-185126688.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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