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Assault on Kiev: Russian helicopters swoop above Ukraine's capital

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Russian MP wants to fire missiles at UK, and take out Sunak as well. Does anyone still believe the BS that these people spout? Eight older guys in a TV studio seriously discussing destroying civilization as we know it, including Russia itself. As one can see almost every night on Russian TV. It’s all just grandstanding, completely laughable.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

Russian MP wants to fire missiles at UK, and take out Sunak as well. Does anyone still believe the BS that these people spout? Eight older guys in a TV studio seriously discussing destroying civilization as we know it, including Russia itself. As one can see almost every night on Russian TV. It’s all just grandstanding, completely laughable.

 

 

Should not be believed.

It's meant to encourage the west to hold back all the help Ukraine needs to actually win. It's working more or less and that's got to change or this war will be lasting forever. 

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On 9/14/2023 at 8:57 AM, Tug said:

Even an old kilo class submarine is expensive that’s gotta smart!!wonder if any Russian admirals are going to join the Russian Air Force without benefit of a flying machine lol ???? 

The destroyed sub was commissioned in 2014, almost brand new in sub years, and had the latest Russian technology.  Russian sub B-237  The Russians can't replace it because Turkey is blockading access of warships to the Black Sea.

 

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Priceless.

 

9 hours ago, rabas said:

Priceless.

 

This Jem + the optic of Putin hat in hand begging for ammo from N Korea doesn’t bode well for Mr Putin ehh?what on earth is Putin going to do when the Ukrainian military gets back down to their coastline on the Sea of Azov bring their trapped fleet in range?salva Ukraine!!

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Couldn’t happen to nicer guy. Hope the devil has reserved a special little corner in hell for this monster.

 

 

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2 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

Couldn’t happen to nicer guy. Hope the devil has reserved a special little corner in hell for this monster.

 

 

Kadyrov is sick?  Gee, I hope it isn't anything minor!

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More on the Ukraine Sebastopol attack from earlier this week.....

 

 

1 minute ago, LosLobo said:

More on the Ukraine Sebastopol attack from earlier this week.....

 

 

How to repair destroyed ships ?

11 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

Couldn’t happen to nicer guy. Hope the devil has reserved a special little corner in hell for this monster.

 

 

"health problems" seem way too common among people in higher positions in Putin's environment

1 minute ago, tgw said:

How to repair destroyed ships ?

Maybe will never be able to fully repair by the extent of the damage.

11 minutes ago, tgw said:

"health problems" seem way too common among people in higher positions in Putin's environment

Those in high positions seem to finish in much lower positions mainly after falling to the ground, though poisoning is also one of Putin's remedies of choice.

 

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Ukraine having some good target practise in Crimea

 

This week, Ukrainian forces struck targets in Russian-annexed Crimea on two consecutive nights. Kyiv said it conducted a major airstrike on Russia's Black Sea Fleet Wednesday night, reporting that several cruise missiles struck a landing ship and submarine at its main base at Sevastopol. Both are said to have sustained heavy damage, with Russia's defense ministry saying the vessels will be repaired.

Early Thursday morning, another attack followed. Ukrainian media outlets reported that an S-300, or even more modern S-400 air-defense system was hit in the city of Yevpatoria.

 

https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-war-why-controlling-crimea-could-be-key-to-victory/a-66826192

 

 

 

3 hours ago, tgw said:

How to repair destroyed ships ?

heard there is some company in India that dismantle them to metal scrap... keep in mind Modi being Vlad's good friend, as usual it's all about $$$$$

 

Alang Ship Breaking Yard

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alang_Ship_Breaking_Yard

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Arnold Judas Rimmer of Jupiter Mining Corporation Ship Red Dwarf

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Another Russian ship hit by a drone at Sebastopol....

 

 

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Holey s..!

 

 

43 minutes ago, rabas said:

Holey s..!

 

 

Hey Thailand bargain priced submarine a little body work and nobody will know it had a little (accident) on a serious note looks like it was hit twice and on a positive note she didn’t kill her crew salva Ukraine hit them hard!!!

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15 hours ago, Tug said:

Hey Thailand bargain priced submarine a little body work and nobody will know it had a little (accident) on a serious note looks like it was hit twice and on a positive note she didn’t kill her crew salva Ukraine hit them hard!!!

No use!  The side hole directly targeted the engine room, the top hole in front targeted the weapons bay. Not much of value left on this nearly brand new sub.

 

What's truly amazing is the missile hit the side horizontally, at the water line, while the sub was basically in a ditch, and hit the engine room with one meter accuracy.  kiloclass.png.43cee5773a2e9ebdcc4ef7d3505adf33.png

Finally what i was hoping for is happening,Armenia now seems ready to cut ties with Russia.

Hopefully more countries will follow.

1 hour ago, Mavideol said:

it appears there is a small window of opportunity to push Orcs out of Crimea, Ukraine has to take it's chance fast

Ukraine ‘has one month to hold knife to Crimea’s throat’ and force Putin into peace talks

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-one-month-hold-knife-151234715.html

 

At some point peace talk will commence. Ukriane is dead centered on regaining Crimea, but they might have to let the Russians have Sevastopol as a naval base, similar to the Americans having Guantanamo in Cuba.

This could be the opening Russia and possibly China have been waiting for. 

There are already sign that a second round of mobilization is coming in Russia so they can reinforce over the winter.

Will China pull the trigger on Taiwan?

Spring has the best weather in the strait, time will tell.

 

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21 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

At some point peace talk will commence. Ukriane is dead centered on regaining Crimea, but they might have to let the Russians have Sevastopol as a naval base, similar to the Americans having Guantanamo in Cuba.

Will have to disagree on the Crimea/Sevastopol issue, no way Ukraine will give anything to  Russia, there is too much bad blood, Russians killing civilians, abducting kids, etc.... Obama should never had it happen back in 2014 when Putin crossed the so called red line on Crimea

Ukraine launches its ‘largest drone strike’ of war so far on Crimea and Black Sea targets

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-launches-largest-drone-strike-041509707.html

 

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Mavideol said:

Will have to disagree on the Crimea/Sevastopol issue, no way Ukraine will give anything to  Russia, there is too much bad blood, Russians killing civilians, abducting kids, etc.... Obama should never had it happen back in 2014 when Putin crossed the so called red line on Crimea

Ukraine launches its ‘largest drone strike’ of war so far on Crimea and Black Sea targets

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-launches-largest-drone-strike-041509707.html

 

 

 

 

 

I agree.

Obama made that mistake.

Give the Russkies an arm, they'll take it all.

That said it would have been massively harder back then to get western allies on-board as they are now.

But Obama didn't even try except to do slap on them wrist stuff.

From the US POv this shouldn't be partisan.

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23 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

At some point peace talk will commence. Ukriane is dead centered on regaining Crimea, but they might have to let the Russians have Sevastopol as a naval base, similar to the Americans having Guantanamo in Cuba.

When the war is over, Russia will be trillions in debt with a failed economy, doubt they could rent a beach chair in Sevastopol, much less a naval base.

 

May be better for them to cede Sochi and the Novorossiysk navel base to offset massive war reparations, especially since they'll have little use for a naval base by then.

 

9 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I agree.

Obama made that mistake.

Give the Russkies an arm, they'll take it all.

That said it would have been massively harder back then to get western allies on-board as they are now.

But Obama didn't even try except to do slap on them wrist stuff.

From the US POv this shouldn't be partisan.

Obama was very good for the country domestically, not so much for international affairs.  President Biden is much better at the international stuff.

22 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I agree.

Obama made that mistake.

Give the Russkies an arm, they'll take it all.

That said it would have been massively harder back then to get western allies on-board as they are now.

But Obama didn't even try except to do slap on them wrist stuff.

From the US POv this shouldn't be partisan.

good point but as u said, he should have tried harder, maybe (some of) the allies wouldn't be on board as they are now but facing/challenging Putin would have changed everything

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