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3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

The price of eggs where, China? 

Are you trying to compete for the most content free micro post of the year award?

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19 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

The 8 years warranty is turning out to be a hollow promise and the Thais are slowly waking up from the EV propaganda slumber. While social media last year was full of proud new owners posing in front of their car with a silly oversized reusable red ribbon 🎀 on the hood, the mood is a bit more angry this year.

29% of EV owners have buyers remorse, more will soon follow.

 

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It's fairer to say that all mainstream car companies have little real interest in individual consumers once you've bought their product.

 

Remember Ford and the Focus gearbox issue, which upset a lot of owners globally, including Thailand?

 

I've owned several Honda Jazz in the past. Excellent car. Recommended to one of our extended family ... who then had nothing but mechanical trouble from the moment they drove it brand new out of the dealer. Just unlucky and got a lemon.

 

My BYD experience so far (18 months) has been pretty good.

 

It does however seem odd how Thai consumers seem happy to spend a lot of money on a car from some unheard of manufacturer with little obvious track record, simply because it's an EV. BYD at least has a reasonable track record with EVs. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

Are you trying to compete for the most content free micro post of the year award?

I see this post of yours is loaded with relevant content, are you competing for the most content free micro post of the year award as well? 

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13 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

Just wait until it is your turn to enjoy one of the many EV killer error messages.

 

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As another poster has explained, that message just says you're not allowed to fiddle with that menu item while driving. Which is irritating. Which is also what my VW tells me if I try to change certain settings while driving.

 

Perhaps the Chinese learned this safety obsession 'from ze Germans'? 

 

I suspect it's an EU / Western market 'safety requirement' to have this 'feature'. 

 

 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Pib said:

 

Google Translate of the campaign details follows.  I Bolded the key areas.  No free wall charger, but the promotion has all the other standard and important stuff like 8 year/160K km warranty, free 1st year insurance, etc.   

 

https://www.reverautomotive.com/en/news/byd-dolphin-day-campaign

Campaign details as follows
For customers who reserve and purchase the BYD DOLPHIN electric car, Standard Range model or Extended Range model and receive a tax invoice issued between 22 June 2024 and – 30 June 2024 or until the BYD DOLPHIN electric car, Standard Range model or Extended Range model. Extended Range will be sold out and you will receive the following special privileges:

 

Cash discount up to 160,099 baht

 

BYD DOLPHIN Extended Range model 160,099 baht from the normal retail price of 859,999 baht, remaining at a special price of 699,900 baht after discount.

 

BYD DOLPHIN Standard Range model 140,099 baht from the normal retail price of 699,999 baht, remaining at a special price of 559,900 baht after discount.

Note: Discount from normal retail price. Cannot be changed to a down payment discount. or other free gifts

 

Receive free first class insurance with insurance (personal car type) for a period of 1 year from leading insurance companies participating in the program with the company as follows:

Sunday Insurance Public Company Limited

Navakij Insurance Public Company Limited

Muang Thai Insurance Public Company Limited

LMG Insurance Public Company Limited

Viriyah Insurance Public Company Limited

Tokyo Marine Insurance (Thailand) Public Company Limited

 

Special interest rate 1.98% for 25% down payment, installments for 48 months.

 

Only for customers who have received loan approval from participating financial institutions between 22 June 2024 and - 30 June 2024 only.

 

Financial institutions participating in the program include Bank of Ayudhya Public Company Limited, Kasikorn Leasing Company Limited, and Siam Commercial Bank Public Company Limited. Loans are considered according to the conditions set by the financial institutions.

 

Vehicle warranty (Warranty) 8 years or 160,000 kilometers, whichever comes first.

It extends the warranty period from the warranty manual and maintenance records from 6 years or 150,000 kilometers, whichever comes first, to 8 years or 160,000 kilometers, whichever comes first. The extended warranty period will be guaranteed by Dhipaya Insurance Company on behalf of Reve Automotive Company Limited.

Spare parts and extended warranty Please refer to the company's letter on extending the quality guarantee period (Extended Warranty) including changes made by the company. Will be announced in the future.

 

High Voltage Battery warranty: 8 years or 160,000 kilometers, whichever comes first.

The High Voltage Battery warranty is based on the terms of the warranty manual and maintenance records. and user manual only

 

Emergency assistance service 24 hours a day for 8 years includes:

24-hour towing service: For towing your vehicle to the nearest BYD service center within 100 kilometers, unlimited times per year. and lift the vehicle to a location other than BYD's service center within a distance of 35 kilometers. If exceeding, a service fee of 30 baht per kilometer will be charged, with the customer being responsible for the expenses incurred.

24-hour on-site technician service for basic troubleshooting: Free service within 20 kilometers of the nearest BYD service center. Unlimited number of times If exceeded, the service charge will be 30 baht per kilometer. The customer will be responsible for the expenses incurred.

24-hour spare key assistance service in case of accidental vehicle locking: Spare key pickup assistance service within 20 kilometers, limited to 1 time per year (12 month period) from the spare key pickup location to the accident scene. If the distance exceeds 20 kilometers, the company will charge a service fee of 30 baht per kilometer, with the customer being responsible for the expenses incurred.

 

Free electrical equipment extension cables (V-to-L) according to the company. only specified

Free AC Portable Charger cable according to the company. only specified

Free car registration fee

Receive a free rubber cloth mat and license plate frame. Medium screen protector film

Brand and type of rubber cloth carpet license plate frame Medium screen protector film It's according to the company. only specified

Receive free XUV-MAX CERAMIC window film with installation, valued at 28,000 baht.

Installation of XUV-MAX CERAMIC window film depends on the availability of the installer and the number of customers who come to use the service.

Details, limitations, procedures, warranty and warranty conditions As well as the installation standards for XUV-MAX CERAMIC tint film, it is as specified by the XUV-MAX CERAMIC tint film service provider and/or the manufacturer.

 

Campaign exceptions
This campaign cannot be used in conjunction with other promotional campaigns except in the following cases.
Customers who have received rights under this campaign are not eligible to participate in the BYD Loyalty Privilege campaign for existing customers. (Please study additional details at https://www.reverautomotive.com/news/friend-gets-friend-campaign ) unless customers who are entitled to this campaign purchase a new BYD electric vehicle of a model other than the BYD DOLPHIN Standard Range or Extended Range.

Customers who are entitled to this campaign are not eligible to participate in the Friend Gets Friend Campaign (please study additional details at https://www.reverautomotive.com/news/friend-gets-friend-campaign ) unless new customers who are recommended by customers who are eligible under this campaign will purchase a BYD DOLPHIN Standard Range or Extended Range electric car.

note
“Company” means Reve Automotive Company Limited.

Only for the purchase of BYD BYD electric car, DOLPHIN model, Standard Range model or Extended Range model from the company's dealers only.

To join the campaign The customer acknowledges and consents to the company collecting, using or disclosing names, surnames, photographs, animations, sounds and/or other information of activity participants. Whether the customer can be directly or indirectly identified (“Personal Information”) from participating in this campaign Customers can study the company's privacy policy at https://www.reverautomotive.com/privacy-policy.

Customers can ask for additional details at the customer relations department at 02-045-8888.

The company has the right to change, amend, and add various conditions. without prior notice

 

 

 

 

also missing Maintenance service, labor, spare parts for x number of years

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1 hour ago, vinny41 said:

also missing Maintenance service, labor, spare parts for x number of years

 

It still may have the service based on below...maybe just not clear in the promotion/advertising.

 

Spare parts and extended warranty Please refer to the company's letter on extending the quality guarantee period (Extended Warranty) including changes made by the company. Will be announced in the future.

 

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13 minutes ago, Pib said:

 

It still may have the service based on below...maybe just not clear in the promotion/advertising.

 

Spare parts and extended warranty Please refer to the company's letter on extending the quality guarantee period (Extended Warranty) including changes made by the company. Will be announced in the future.

 

By having that statement they can fend off anyone that recently purchased at pre discount price by saying the terms are different pre purchase price includes Maintenance service, labor, spare parts for x number of years and  free wall charger and installation

there again they may decide to refund recent pre discount owners depending on numbers

when they did the Atto 3 2023 discount in March and April 2024 they did extend that offer to anyone that purchased atto 3 from January 1st 2024 by offering them the price difference from when they purchased 

At the moment anyone that has ordered a Dolphin but they haven't received it yet it makes more sense to cancel the order even if they lose their 10% deposit and place a new order if Maintenance service, labor, spare parts for x number of years and  free wall charger and installation not important to them 

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6 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

makes more sense to cancel the order even if they lose their 10% deposit and place a new order if Maintenance service, labor, spare parts for x number of years and  free wall charger and installation not important to them 


Deposits are usually minimal, 10,000 baht typically.

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Figure what you want and when you want it, and then shop accordingly. Buying something you do not want when you do not want it because of a "promotion" rarely makes any sense. 

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In the past buyers were advised by dealer to put down the minimum down payment for a vehicle and put the rest down of finance ( higher the finance amount more commission for the dealership / sales person )

Now finance houses are insisting on 30% down payment and finance loan not to exceed 70% of total cost of vehicle

Latest price reduction means customer will save between B30,000 and B50,000 in down payment depending on which Dolphin model they purchase

Posted
3 hours ago, BKKBike09 said:

 

It's fairer to say that all mainstream car companies have little real interest in individual consumers once you've bought their product.

 

Remember Ford and the Focus gearbox issue, which upset a lot of owners globally, including Thailand?

 

I've owned several Honda Jazz in the past. Excellent car. Recommended to one of our extended family ... who then had nothing but mechanical trouble from the moment they drove it brand new out of the dealer. Just unlucky and got a lemon.

 

My BYD experience so far (18 months) has been pretty good.

 

It does however seem odd how Thai consumers seem happy to spend a lot of money on a car from some unheard of manufacturer with little obvious track record, simply because it's an EV. BYD at least has a reasonable track record with EVs. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BB9, the voice of reason. It is refreshing to hear from an EV owner that is just enjoying a, hopefully quality product, and not trying to sell the concept while at the same time pimping solar power, by regurgitating false insurance data, fake Saul Goodman lawyer claims or simply keeping the cherry 🍒 season open all year around.

Your and Pib's journey will be interesting to follow over the next 10 years and hopefully giving us an honest insight into any maintenance issues. 

 

All car manufacturers are in the business of profit. Japanese, Korean and European car makers have over time build a brand identity around reliability. It is just in the Chinese DNA to hide and deny, rather than investigate and improve. Time will tell if the tears 😢 we are seeing now will evaporate over time and the new manufacturers get their business in order. The jury is still out.

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45 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

BB9, the voice of reason

 

Not sure my wife would agree with that. But never reject undeserved credit.

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58 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

BB9, the voice of reason. It is refreshing to hear from an EV owner that is just enjoying a, hopefully quality product, and not trying to sell the concept while at the same time pimping solar power, by regurgitating false insurance data, fake Saul Goodman lawyer claims or simply keeping the cherry 🍒 season open all year around.

Your and Pib's journey will be interesting to follow over the next 10 years and hopefully giving us an honest insight into any maintenance issues. 

 

All car manufacturers are in the business of profit. Japanese, Korean and European car makers have over time build a brand identity around reliability. It is just in the Chinese DNA to hide and deny, rather than investigate and improve. Time will tell if the tears 😢 we are seeing now will evaporate over time and the new manufacturers get their business in order. The jury is still out.

All vehicle brands for the Chinese market have to report any vehicle recalls to the State Administration for Market Regulation for China 

If you do a search in Chinese simplified you and Arthur Brown might be staggered in the results that you find

if you do a search for vehicle recalls in Thai you will only find a single site and the only recall is for airbags for May 2022

https://www.tcc.or.th/warning-airbag/

Turn around and look at Thailand. Automotive experts point out that recalling cars is rarely accepted to improve standards. Even though car manufacturers do recall, they do it in a way that not formal Unofficial and "not supported by law"  often use various methods to announce the recall, such as sending letters to customers or notifying through a call center but not informing the media. Unless the media inquires or receives information from abroad

https://consumersongkhla.or.th/recall-เรียกคืนรถ-น่ากลัวจริ/#:~:text=RECALL

Posted
11 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

All vehicle brands for the Chinese market have to report any vehicle recalls to the State Administration for Market Regulation for China 

If you do a search in Chinese simplified you and Arthur Brown might be staggered in the results that you find

if you do a search for vehicle recalls in Thai you will only find a single site and the only recall is for airbags for May 2022

https://www.tcc.or.th/warning-airbag/

Turn around and look at Thailand. Automotive experts point out that recalling cars is rarely accepted to improve standards. Even though car manufacturers do recall, they do it in a way that not formal Unofficial and "not supported by law"  often use various methods to announce the recall, such as sending letters to customers or notifying through a call center but not informing the media. Unless the media inquires or receives information from abroad

https://consumersongkhla.or.th/recall-เรียกคืนรถ-น่ากลัวจริ/#:~:text=RECALL

I don't quiet follow you there Vinny. Arthur Brown, the singer? Why, what?

 

Are you saying there are a lot of recorded recalls in China and that is a good thing?

 

I am a bit lost, maybe I need more coffee ️. 

Posted
7 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

I don't quiet follow you there Vinny. Arthur Brown, the singer? Why, what?

 

Are you saying there are a lot of recorded recalls in China and that is a good thing?

 

I am a bit lost, maybe I need more coffee ️. 

Yes  Arthur Brown, the singer and he is famous for one song

Yes lots of recorded recalls in China In Europe there is a recall database

if someone is the 2nd owner of a vehicle they wouldn't receive any recall notification from the Brands more so if they don't service the vehicles at an approved dealer workshop

would you be happy to pay for a part replacement that you later found out was subject to a worldwide recall and you the replacement part should have been fitted free of charge

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Peeked at GWM's Ora Good Cat & 07.  Both very nice, and never paid much attention to them.   Just the negative BS, 'chickie car'.   OGC was very solid, and had that quality sound when closing the door.   Impressed and wasn't expecting it to be so pleasing.  Well fitted out.

 

Again, not understanding why anyone would bother the imports from JP, or 'made in TH' entry vehicles.

 

Those interested should take a peek at the all, GWM, BYD, MG & NETAs for budget conscious.

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5 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Peeked at GWM's Ora Good Cat & 07.  Both very nice, and never paid much attention to them.   Just the negative BS, 'chickie car'.   OGC was very solid, and had that quality sound when closing the door.   Impressed and wasn't expecting it to be so pleasing.  Well fitted out.

 

Again, not understanding why anyone would bother the imports from JP, or 'made in TH' entry vehicles.

 

Those interested should take a peek at the all, GWM, BYD, MG & NETAs for budget conscious.

Ora Good Cat EV becomes first Chinese brand to be assembled in Thailand

https://www.nationthailand.com/business/automobile/40034673

Don't know where 07 is made

GWM plan to build 8  different models in Thailand

 

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12 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Peeked at GWM's Ora Good Cat & 07.  Both very nice, and never paid much attention to them.   Just the negative BS, 'chickie car'.   OGC was very solid, and had that quality sound when closing the door.   Impressed and wasn't expecting it to be so pleasing.  Well fitted out.

 

Again, not understanding why anyone would bother the imports from JP, or 'made in TH' entry vehicles.

 

Those interested should take a peek at the all, GWM, BYD, MG & NETAs for budget conscious.


I had a ride in an OGC Grab, though it was nice inside and solid. Can't get over the pig ugly looks of the 07 though.

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33 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:


I had a ride in an OGC Grab, though it was nice inside and solid. Can't get over the pig ugly looks of the 07 though.

07 didn't do much for me,  but didn't peek too hard at.  Didn't care for the outside, so no need to peek inside.  OGC just happen to be on display as I exited Robinsons, so too convenient, and really did surprise me.

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5 hours ago, KhunLA said:

07 didn't do much for me,  but didn't peek too hard at.  Didn't care for the outside, so no need to peek inside.  OGC just happen to be on display as I exited Robinsons, so too convenient, and really did surprise me.

Yeah, the I like the Good Cat, the 07 not so much . 

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On 6/13/2024 at 2:04 AM, ExpatOilWorker said:

I think BYD will be struggling to produce even 20,000 vehicles in 2024.

They might be up running by September at 5,000 vehicles/month or a vehicle every 9 minutes. 

On June 17, 2024, reporters reported that The 100% Chinese electric car company BYD is preparing to officially open the BYD car factory at WHA Industrial Estate, Rayong Province, Thailand on July 4th.

The reporter further reported that This factory will begin producing the first 100% electric cars ( EVs ) for the Thai market. And to support export markets in ASEAN and Europe as well, is BYD Dolphin

And previously, Reve Thailand announced the idea that it plans to produce and assemble a plug-in hybrid vehicle (PHEV) at its factory in Thailand as well. Because the company cannot import and sell the entire vehicle. Because the tax costs are quite high.

https://www.prachachat.net/motoring/news-1588401

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On 6/18/2024 at 12:42 PM, vinny41 said:

Unlikely to see many Byd seals on the road in UK with prices ranging from the equivalent of B2,1 million baht to B2,2 million baht

and the majority of car insurance companies stock reply is computer says NO for policy

Exclusive: Some Chinese cars ‘almost uninsurable’ as parts and repair support falters

Parts shortages and a lack of technical support are giving insurance underwriters the jitters when it comes to the new wave of Chinese cars hitting the UK

The BYD Seal is one example of a new Chinese model that is hard to get covered, with very few insurance companies prepared to underwrite it. We searched a leading comparison site and were offered just three very high quotes, compared with the dozens of competitive quotes one would expect for a mainstream rival. 

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-insurance/362519/exclusive-some-chinese-cars-almost-uninsurable-parts-and-repair-support


FWIW, I saw two BYD Atto 3s today. I'm in a small northern English, pretty run down, seaside town. I didn't expect to see any BYDs at all on this trip but was quite surprised to see two in one afternoon of walking around. No idea how much they cost here though.

Seems they have quite a few dealerships already. And like I said, advertising heavily - they obviously have a plan.

 

 

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5 hours ago, vinny41 said:

On June 17, 2024, reporters reported that The 100% Chinese electric car company BYD is preparing to officially open the BYD car factory at WHA Industrial Estate, Rayong Province, Thailand on July 4th.

The reporter further reported that This factory will begin producing the first 100% electric cars ( EVs ) for the Thai market. And to support export markets in ASEAN and Europe as well, is BYD Dolphin

And previously, Reve Thailand announced the idea that it plans to produce and assemble a plug-in hybrid vehicle (PHEV) at its factory in Thailand as well. Because the company cannot import and sell the entire vehicle. Because the tax costs are quite high.

https://www.prachachat.net/motoring/news-1588401


interesting to find out the thai made specs of models currently sold  , differences if any and Sale prices since it is made locally. 
 

the dolphin new prices is certainly tempting even without the previous free maintenance ( 26.5k baht ) 

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1 hour ago, Alotoftravel said:


interesting to find out the thai made specs of models currently sold  , differences if any and Sale prices since it is made locally. 
 

the dolphin new prices is certainly tempting even without the previous free maintenance ( 26.5k baht ) 

When GWM started selling Thai built Ora's in January 2024 there was price reductions ranging from B99,000 to B187,000 difference from the imported versions

https://autolifethailand.tv/official-price-ora-good-cat-gt-my2024/

From a marketing point of view Byd might want to take the standard Dolphin below the B500K market which would affect Neta V and Wuling potential sales or they choose to wait for release of Seagull to enter below the B500k market

 

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1 hour ago, Alotoftravel said:


interesting to find out the thai made specs of models currently sold  , differences if any and Sale prices since it is made locally. 
 

the dolphin new prices is certainly tempting even without the previous free maintenance ( 26.5k baht ) 

 

I thought the Atto 3 (410) model was Thai made, apparently not.

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