Are you unknowingly driving a zero-milage used EV from China?

 

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/local-chinese-governments-promote-zero-mileage-used-car-exports-inflating-sales-2025-06-23/

9 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

Are you unknowingly driving a zero-milage used EV from China?

 

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/local-chinese-governments-promote-zero-mileage-used-car-exports-inflating-sales-2025-06-23/

 

Shortcuts, China's forte.

Spotted one of these (AWD) the other day at Makro, looking very nice.  Didn't expect it to be priced this low.

 

Quick Google, and specs aren't anything special, so priced about right.  Did look impressive.

 

21 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Spotted one of these (AWD) the other day at Makro, looking very nice.  Didn't expect it to be priced this low.

 

Quick Google, and specs aren't anything special, so priced about right.  Did look impressive.

 

 

I've seen one in black, very sexy machine.

13 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Spotted one of these (AWD) the other day at Makro, looking very nice.  Didn't expect it to be priced this low.

 

Quick Google, and specs aren't anything special, so priced about right.  Did look impressive.

 

Seen a few of these recently as a dealer, together with Omoda, has opened up in town.

While they are available in up to six colours only seem them in this silver colour.

Hp and torque seem well down for a dual motor EV, single motor is equally underwhelming.

So, anybody wanting a cheap Baby Hummer that looks the part …. then here it is !

7 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Seen a few of these recently as a dealer, together with Omoda, has opened up in town.

While they are available in up to six colours only seem them in this silver colour.

Hp and torque seem well down for a dual motor EV, single motor is equally underwhelming.

So, anybody wanting a cheap Baby Hummer that looks the part …. then here it is !

 

Perfect for a teenager, or the wife.

This happened to me yesterday:

Took her ladyship to her friends salon for some hair work ( yep, i didn’t pay much attention !) and i elected to stay in the car.

After about 10 minutes an identical car ( Seal Premium in Space Grey ) parked up right behind me and then shortly after another identical car pulled into a space in front, only separated by two mc’s.

So, 3 identical cars ( same model, same colour) almost in a row, i did contemplate stepping out and taking a photo ( yes, i am that shallow !! ) but didn’t and regretted it.

 

The car behind pulled out leaving only two, about 5 minutes later the little lady appeared …. and yes you guessed it …. she went to the wrong car.

I watched in amazement as she tapped on the window ( the international action for “ let me in its hot out here ) and then shielding the sunshine with her hand peered into the car !

 

At this point i should have flashed my lights but she was too quick to realise her mistake and, tbh, it seemed like an opportunity not to be missed.

 

Anyway, we both had a good laugh at the situation but the strange thing was that she said that they were a young couple in a heavy embrace and kissing ! ( doesn’t seem like Thai behaviour to me ).

Seconds later the car drove off.

Seems like a strange place for some heavy petting as is a very busy street …. or maybe we uncovered a clandestine dogging group here in Thailand ??

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

Perfect for a teenager, or the wife.

What about the Gik?

1 minute ago, carlyai said:

What about the Gik?

I am allowed to have one of those by my partner, but I’m reminded of something I was told when I first moved here “There’s always a bill…..”

On 7/4/2025 at 11:12 AM, KhunLA said:

Spotted one of these (AWD) the other day at Makro, looking very nice.  Didn't expect it to be priced this low.

 

Quick Google, and specs aren't anything special, so priced about right.  Did look impressive.

 

Not really an eye candy, but certainly some fans here. 

I'd like to see the Jeep EV here, but with no presence of Jeep dealers as well as other Stellantis brands I can't see it coming to Thailand. 

On 7/4/2025 at 6:12 AM, KhunLA said:

Spotted one of these (AWD) the other day at Makro, looking very nice.  Didn't expect it to be priced this low.

 

Quick Google, and specs aren't anything special, so priced about right.  Did look impressive.

 

too expensive.

Riddara RD6 now for 720 000. Other models also down 150 000. They promised they would not reduce price. But nobody said that they would not sell "second hand" show room cars with a discount.

Apparently there is also a cheaper model expected at the end of the year.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, TronxII said:

too expensive.

Riddara RD6 now for 720 000. Other models also down 150 000. They promised they would not reduce price. But nobody said that they would not sell "second hand" show room cars with a discount.

Apparently there is also a cheaper model expected at the end of the year.

 

Agree, specs don't match the price.   Styling is obviously the selling point.  Did look nice, and I like the practicality of the squared off body, affording more interior space to be utilized.   Probably roomy enough to sleep in, already having roof rack for cargo.

 

Less than 10 cm longer, overall length, than our SUV, but does appear roomier in the cargo area.  Why not just use a tent ... we need AC most of the year.

 

Tried camping in our small (shorter) SUV, and simply not enough room, along with, if O&A, where to put your 'cargo', as no dedicated roof rack, and all our crap, just doesn't fit in the front seat area, or what's left when moved and leaning forward.

 

 

12 hours ago, KhunLA said:

as no dedicated roof rack,

Oh no, don't do roof rack. I had one when we had babies and the diesel car would consume 20% more. It was cheaper to buy again the products you would put in the roof rack than paying for the extra diesel.

And with electric it would also reduce the range.

1 hour ago, TronxII said:

Oh no, don't do roof rack. I had one when we had babies and the diesel car would consume 20% more. It was cheaper to buy again the products you would put in the roof rack than paying for the extra diesel.

And with electric it would also reduce the range.

We don't need a roof rack, and not a fan of them anyway.   Minimal drag if using the streamlined roof 'boxes'.

Still a bit of life left in the old Neta cadaver.

 

5 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

Still a bit of life left in the old Neta cadaver.

 

 

Yea...still kicking according to DLT stats.   And BEV's total registrations are definitely on the rise.  Last registration month of May was a very good month for BEVs and the latest registration month of June is even better with 12,893 new BEV registrations.   And BYD is kicking butt...the pack leader!

 

And when looking at total RY1 category (private vehicle of no more than 7 people...gas/diesel/EV/etc) ) registrations of 45,691 for June, which includes the 12,893 BEVs, that equates to a a little over 28% of new RY! registrations being BEVs.

 

Snapshot of Total and Top 10 BEVs registrations Jan thru Jun 2025....the first yellow highlighted number is total BEVs registration for June 2025...then the Top 10 BEVs numbers are listed below that.   Neta number for June also highlighted which EOW used in his chart above.

 

@Pib why is the Tesla line out of synch (numerically) ?

3 hours ago, HighPriority said:

@Pib why is the Tesla line out of synch (numerically) ?

By out of sync you mean BIG registration increases for May and June I expect it's due to the aggressive price reductions Tesla Thailand has implemented over the past few months.  And it's not only price reductions in Thailand but in many other countries as Elon has PO'ed a lot of potential customers with his past bromance with Donald and his former driving of DOGE (Dept of Govt Efficiency).   But price reductions can cause  people to act like the three monkeys of hear, see, speak no evil when buying a product.

 

8 minutes ago, Pib said:

By out of sync you mean BIG registration increases for May and June I expect it's due to the aggressive price reductions Tesla Thailand has implemented over the past few months.  And it's not only price reductions in Thailand but in many other countries as Elon has PO'ed a lot of potential customers with his past bromance with Donald and his former driving of DOGE (Dept of Govt Efficiency).   But price reductions can cause  people to act like the three monkeys of hear, see, speak no evil when buying a product.

 

About time Tesla stopped price gouging here.  Although I think he meant actual # on the sales count.

 

Something ain't right here;

10 hours ago, KhunLA said:

About time Tesla stopped price gouging here.  Although I think he meant actual # on the sales count.

 

Something ain't right here;

Correct KhunLA 🤔

10 hours ago, KhunLA said:

About time Tesla stopped price gouging here.  Although I think he meant actual # on the sales count.

 

Something ain't right here;

 

Not sure what you mean by "...actual #..."   According to DLT stats (a direct cut and paste) above shows actual Tesla registration numbers by month for Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, May and Jun.  

 

 

8 hours ago, Pib said:

 

Not sure what you mean by "...actual #..."   According to DLT stats (a direct cut and paste) above shows actual Tesla registration numbers by month for Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, May and Jun.  

 

 

Look at where Tesla sit in the ranking V their actual sales… shouldn’t they appear 4th not 6th ?

Or am I reading it wrong ? 

OK...now I see what you mean.  The reason Tesla is ranked 6th on that earlier partial snapshot is because the DLT spreadsheet sorts by "total registered for the year."   The spreadsheet they post on their website does not include the sorting controls...it 'smore like a printed copy....and to even use this copy after downloading it you have to adjust column formatting just to see a lot of the numbers.  

 

See below which are some snapshots of the DLT spreadsheet for BEVs but this time I included the yearly total column (i.e., the last column) along with the Jan thru Jun columns and the brand column (ie., BYD, ORA, etc).    

 

Tesla has had good sales/registrations for May and Jun probably because of big price reductions they started implementing several months ago.  However,  Jan thru Apr were not that good for Tesla.    Heck, Densa (owned by BYD) is breathing on Tesla total sales numbers for the year. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3 phase EV charger installed.

Just have to reroute my phase power then all set. Only using 1 phase as that's all I wired the garage for, but eventually will use all the 3 phases to the house.

Because I used a power outlet that I ran with 6m2 cable when I wired the garage, I had to mount the charger at that point, but the charge cable could be another 1 or 2 m longer. Anyone know if you can buy a cable extension?

 

Nut sure if there is an extension available, but for sure you can get longer ones on the Market. Check your Wallbox Manual.

You can get M to F cables (I have 2) but if you use them as an extension cable, they won't lock together.

57 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

You can get M to F cables (I have 2) but if you use them as an extension cable, they won't lock together.

Hi, don't quite understand. 🙂

The connector on the charger is male, the connector on the car is female, so plug the male charger cable into the female extension, then the male extension goes into the car.

(making me all horny now with this dirty talk).

Why won't they lock together?

 

 

 

4 hours ago, carlyai said:

3 phase EV charger installed.

Just have to reroute my phase power then all set. Only using 1 phase as that's all I wired the garage for, but eventually will use all the 3 phases to the house.

Because I used a power outlet that I ran with 6m2 cable when I wired the garage, I had to mount the charger at that point, but the charge cable could be another 1 or 2 m longer. Anyone know if you can buy a cable extension?

 

 

nice setup! did you go for the 11kw or 22kw wall charger? have you already tried it out?

 

i chose a 3-phase 11kw wall charger, but it only was sold with a 5-meter cable. a longer one would be better since we have two cars. i asked the shop (through lazada) to install a 7-meter cable instead. they did it for an extra 1000 baht, which was cheaper than buying an extension cable (i think i also saw a 2-meter extension) ... 

 

The connector gender  (i.e., male or female) of a EV charging cable/extension is determined by the "metal pins," repeat, the pins and not the larger plastic housing (the part you grip) containing the pins.   The end of a charging cable that plugs into the EV is a female connector and the connector on the EV is a male connector.   Take a look a the metal pins on your 7/11/22KW charging cable and you see the metal pins are female....and the metal pins on your EV are male.  

 

EV chargers come either with an AC "tethered" cable (i.e.., already attached) like the typical wall chargers we see here in Thailand where you just plug the charging cable female connector into your EV.   Or, the EV charger may not have an AC cable (.e., an untethered charger) and you must bring your own cable.  (see snapshot below). 

 

I guess this untethered approach is popular in some countries as it helps to prevent cable theft, allows the EV driver to use their own short or long charging cable, etc....and actually even here in Thailand some EA Everywhere DC chargers don't have a tethered AC charging cable if you only want to AC slow charge and instead you must plug-in your own AC charging cable if for some reason you only wanted to AC slow charge vs using the CCS2 cable that the charger has tethered for fast DC charging. 

 

Snapshot of a Type 2 untethered "charging" cable....one end plugs into the EV and the other end plugs into the charger socket.

 

Now, there is a difference between an EV "charging" cable and an EV "charging extension" cable.  If you had a charging cable like pictured above laying around and said to yourself that I will just that cable to "extend" my current wall charger tethered cable, well, it would not work.  If would not work because the cable male connector housing is too long to allow it to "fully" plug into the tethered female connector.  While the Line/Neutral/PE and CP pins would "partially" connect the PP pins would not connect at all because the plastic housing of the male connector is too long.  It not too long if plugging it in a untethered AC charger which has the a different receptacle and it's too long  by design to plug into a tethered cable for safety purposes.  

 

You can buy charging cable "extensions".   Please note below where the Lazada ad says charging "extension" cable and also points out in the image it has a 34mm long male connector housing which would allow it to "fully" mate into the tethered charging cable female connector that would plug into your EV....that is, properly mate with your wall charger female connector.    Now, The male connector housing for a "charging" cable that plugs into an untethered charger receptacle is approx 50mm long....that means the plastic housing part is too long to allow the metal pins to fully mate.  

 

 

 

And below is a "charging" cable.....not to be confused with a "charging extension" cable.   If you just visually compared the "male" connector between below and above images you should notice the different lengths of the housing that plugs in.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Another way to get a longer charging cable it just to order a customized one where you order the typical 5 meter charging cable with charging gun (connector) and at the same time a few meters more.   At the Feyree Official Store on Lazada you can order a 5 meter charging cable with gun AND also buy X-amount more meters of charging cable.  Then you send a chat note to the store saying I just placed order for a 5M cable with gun and also a 3 meter extension because you want an 8M cable with gun.  Feyree will then customize you cable to where you get an 8 meter long with charging gun cable....no splicing....just one continuous 8 meter long cable instead of the typical 5 meter cable.   I got that info from the Lazada Feyree Store rep.  The Freyee store is pretty fast in responding to chats Mon-Fri...but if leaving a chat message on Sat-Sun you probably will not get a response till Monday.  And they understand and reply in English.

 

And of course you could always just buy some 4 conductor 6mm2 VCT cable (assuming you are using a 7KW single phase charger) for around 150 baht per meter and splice that VCT cable into our current charger cable.  Would be the cheapest way to extend your wall charger 5M charging cable although you need to ensure you do it safely and not be bothered by the "patched" look where you did the splice.   And that VCT part of the stranded cable would be less flexible than the original EV charging cable because EV charging cable stranded wire uses many more strands per conductor (classified as "fine" stranded" compared to VCT type wiring which has around half as many strands.  The more strands per wire conductor makes the cable more flexible.  

 

Snapshot of charging cable "extension" by the meter.