2 hours ago, mitebbots said:

So at this point are we thinking the BYD Dolphin at 449k is a good buy? I'll have to sift through the new battery promotion thing, going to motor expo. 

 

I would rather not have another ICE car, if possible. 

you should also look at Aion UT similar price and Geely EX2 

GEELY EX2 100% electric car, official price: 399,990 – 429,990 baht* | 39.4 kWh battery, range 395 km.

https://autolifethailand.tv/official-price-geely-ex2-ev-bev-thailand/?fbclid=

 

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

@ 449k, that's a no brainer for me. 

 

Or yet again, owning another under performing, expensive to maintain & operate POS ICEV.   

 

In 10 yrs, what is any 449k vehicle going to be worth, or worse, a 600k ICEV, that cost more every year to drive, going to be worth.   

 

How much per kms do you want to pay to drive, the next 10 year ?

 

 

The extended range seems worth the extra. Leave a deposit at the show, free lifetime warranty on the battery and motor, at least that's what the salesman says here..

 

 

On 11/28/2025 at 10:03 AM, Pib said:

IMO a potential winner as a "getting-around-town, short trips, car for uni kids" type car.....heck, even OK for l..o..n..g trips but just more charger stops.     And look at the low price!

 

https://autolifethailand.tv/official-price-geely-ex2-ev-bev-thailand/

 

GEELY EX2 100% electric car, official price: 399,990 - 429,990 baht | 39.4 kWh battery, range 395 km

 

 

 

 

 

Headed to Geely after lunch to peek

1 hour ago, vinny41 said:

you should also look at Aion UT similar price and Geely EX2 

GEELY EX2 100% electric car, official price: 399,990 – 429,990 baht* | 39.4 kWh battery, range 395 km.

https://autolifethailand.tv/official-price-geely-ex2-ev-bev-thailand/?fbclid=

 

 

At the show, need to look at these

Riddara RD6 now offering 3 models, and a'ECON' model with scaled back fit & finish, along with smaller battery.   Think I'd just spend the 110k more for the mid offering.

 

 

Just noticed that used MG4 cars are also showing lifetime warranty?

I thought it would have been 8 year warranty or were the MG4 models always lifetime warranty ?

 

 if the rules set by MG were not kept it would be a bit of a shock buying used and the battery dies in 4 years and they say the previous owner did not keep to the service intervals

 

 

8 minutes ago, kwak250 said:

Just noticed that used MG4 cars are also showing lifetime warranty?

I thought it would have been 8 year warranty or were the MG4 models always lifetime warranty ?

 

 if the rules set by MG were not kept it would be a bit of a shock buying used and the battery dies in 4 years and they say the previous owner did not keep to the service intervals

 

 

Not too sure about that, as AI stated this ...

... "Thailand: The lifetime warranty was introduced on July 9, 2024" ...

 

Produced date & purchase date may have something to do with the warranty.

12 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Not too sure about that, as AI stated this ...

... "Thailand: The lifetime warranty was introduced on July 9, 2024" ...

 

Produced date & purchase date may have something to do with the warranty.

Yes i thought the same and most are 2023 models
Not worth the risk for an extra 150k for new

6 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

You have far more patience than me @Pib !!

I tried to follow FB posts to try and understand the details but just ended up making my head spin as the translation often makes the conversation unintelligible.

 

If the “ promotion “ does extend to every current and future BYD owner is there anything new in the new battery warranty other than the lifetime extension from 8 year/160k km stipulation ?

If the same warranty only extended then will only apply for those thinking of keeping the car for > 8 years or driving in excess of 160k km ? 

If i understand it correctly then it will only apply to the initial owner so will not enhance any resale value if you want to sell anytime soon ?

Also, from what i understand, the lifetime battery warranty was available from Rever previously for 50k baht but now available for 5k baht for a period until Dec 10th ?

 

 

Yes, many FB posts can definitely make a person's head spin, eyes go cross, scratch out all their head hair out, etc.  And when FB posts need to be translated the informal language and slang often used in many posts can make the translation comical....and then of course many posts are made by the clueless.     I only have a FB account for one reason and that is to be able to read FB posts without being interrupted with a FB pop-up saying I have to login to read the post...and in many cases FB is the social media platform that many people/organizations/companies primarily use to cross=feed information.  I've never "made" a FB post, had any communications with anyone on FB, have my FB profile settings set to maximize privacy, don't follow anyone, etc...etc...etc.  If some govt agency ever wants to review my FB account they are going to be extremely bored with its lack of activity except for my occasional use for reading other people's FB posts on mundane issues.  Me not a FB, X (twitter), Instagram, etc., type person.  LINE and AseanNow are about the only social media platforms I regularly interact with....and it's got to the point "at least in Thailand" that use of LINE is almost a "must."

 

Regarding your questions I don't see anything new in terms of battery/drive motor/PDC coverage which are the big ticket items in any EV....the items that would cost you an arm and leg to replace....and pretty much the hardware everyone seems to worry about.

 

The warranty applies to the original buyer/owner and only transferable to their legal spouse....can't be transferred to anyone else.   So, it won't help in terms of resale value, but if you end-up keeping the car well past 8 years then resale value becomes less and less of a concern as most cars resale value has dropped big time by around the 10 year...even ICE vehicles.  And it could sure make some people decide to keep the car until the wheels simply wouldn't stay on anymore.  Like the car being in Dad or Mom's name who may not even drive, but actually some other person who lives in another part of Thailand like maybe adult kids use the car 24/7.....just keep using the car past 8 years/160,000Km until the wheels won't stay on anymore.....or at for 10 years after BYD discontinues making that model.   Heck, I'm seriously considering buying another BEV--a high end, fancy model--keeping my Atto with lifetime warranty as our 2nd car well past its 8 yr/160k KM basic warranty and then selling/giving our current 2nd car (a 2009 Toyota Fortuner which still runs and looks great) to a close in-law.   When the dust settles I would be driving my primary BEV and my secondary car which would be the Atto.   After driving the Atto for 25 months/53,000km I been very pleased with it....it's a solid car.

 

Regarding the lifetime warranty being previously available. I'm unaware of that other than maybe for a recent promotion for selected models.  I know BYD seems to be saying/implying that but maybe that marketing smoke-and-mirror talk and that "value" of Bt50K for BYD and Bt100K for Denza  they talk about is based on the additional insurance costing Bt5K/Bt10K per year which over a "10 year period" amounts to being worth/valued at Bt50K/Bt100K.   10 years is often used to place a "value (or cost)" on something....plus, supposedly Thai law requires car manufacturers selling cars in Thailand to continue to provide "parts" support for 10 years after a model is discontinued...so maybe BYD is using that 10 year law requirement to place a 10 year value on the insurance.  

 

Now if you find something on FB that contradicts or confirms above be sure to give us some cross-feed.  😁😀😀

 

 

24 minutes ago, kwak250 said:

Yes i thought the same and most are 2023 models
Not worth the risk for an extra 120k for new

MG did state in the July 2024 press release

Moreover, the extended lifetime warranty privilege is offered to not just new but also current customers who own the 4 MG models.

https://ex-prod.mgcars.com/en/NewsActivities/Detail/MG-Lifetime-Battery-Warranty#:~:text=News

Part of the process is to bring car for battery inspection to check if car qualifies 

service centre provide a seperate contract to be signed by the owner for the lifetime warranty in addition there was a new item added to the service schedule check and clean HT leads going into the battery

4 easy steps to register your warranty steps outlined here 

https://www.mgcars.com/en/mg-lifetime-warranty

I would check with MG but if buying Used they might want sight of the seperate contract to be signed by the previous owner for the lifetime warranty and they will want a new contract to be signed by the new owner

 

50 minutes ago, Pib said:

 

 

Yes, many FB posts can definitely make a person's head spin, eyes go cross, scratch out all their head hair out, etc.  And when FB posts need to be translated the informal language and slang often used in many posts can make the translation comical....and then of course many posts are made by the clueless.     I only have a FB account for one reason and that is to be able to read FB posts without being interrupted with a FB pop-up saying I have to login to read the post...and in many cases FB is the social media platform that many people/organizations/companies primarily use to cross=feed information.  I've never "made" a FB post, had any communications with anyone on FB, have my FB profile settings set to maximize privacy, don't follow anyone, etc...etc...etc.  If some govt agency ever wants to review my FB account they are going to be extremely bored with its lack of activity except for my occasional use for reading other people's FB posts on mundane issues.  Me not a FB, X (twitter), Instagram, etc., type person.  LINE and AseanNow are about the only social media platforms I regularly interact with....and it's got to the point "at least in Thailand" that use of LINE is almost a "must."

 

Regarding your questions I don't see anything new in terms of battery/drive motor/PDC coverage which are the big ticket items in any EV....the items that would cost you an arm and leg to replace....and pretty much the hardware everyone seems to worry about.

 

The warranty applies to the original buyer/owner and only transferable to their legal spouse....can't be transferred to anyone else.   So, it won't help in terms of resale value.  But it could sure make some people decide to keep the car until the wheels simply wouldn't stay on anymore.  Like the car being in Dad or Mom's name who may not even drive, but actually some other person who lives in another part of Thailand like maybe adult kids use the car 24/7.....just keep using the car past 8 years/160,000Km until the wheels won't stay on anymore.....or at for 10 years after BYD discontinues making that model.   Heck, I'm seriously considering buying another BEV--a high end, fancy model--keeping my Atto with lifetime warranty as our 2nd car well past its 8 yr/160k KM basic warranty and then selling/giving our current 2nd car (a 2009 Toyota Fortuner which still runs and looks great) to a close in-law.   When the dust settles I would be driving my primary BEV and my secondary car which would be the Atto.   After driving the Atto for 25 months/53,000km I been very pleased with it....it's a solid car.

 

Regarding the lifetime warranty being previously available. I'm unaware of that other than maybe for a recent promotion for selected models.  I know BYD seems to be saying/implying that but maybe that marketing smoke-and-mirror talk and that "value" of Bt50K for BYD and Bt100K for Denza  they talk about is based on the additional insurance costing Bt5K/Bt10K per year which over a "10 year period" amounts to being worth/valued at Bt50K/Bt100K.   10 years is often used to place a "value (or cost)" on something....plus, supposedly Thai law requires car manufacturers selling cars in Thailand to continue to provide "parts" support for 10 years after a model is discontinued...so maybe BYD is using that 10 year law requirement to place a 10 year value on the insurance.  

 

Now if you find something on FB that contradicts or confirms above be sure to give us some cross-feed.  😁😀😀

 

 

AI overview

The law does not require that car parts be kept for 10 years after the last car is sold.. The relevant law is the Civil and Commercial Code, Section 459, regarding guarantees .

Understanding the Auto Parts Law in Thailand

Warranty period for spare parts: Automobile manufacturers and spare parts sellers are responsible for guaranteeing the quality of spare parts as required by law.

Civil and Commercial Code Section 459: The law states that the seller is liable to the buyer for defects in the property sold. If there is a warranty, the parts must be able to function as specified by the manufacturer.

Consumer Protection Law: Consumer protection law provides protection to consumers in cases where products are of poor quality or do not meet the agreed-upon specifications.

Conclusion

Thai law does not require the retention of auto parts for 10 years after the last vehicle is sold. The relevant laws are the Civil and Commercial Code, Section 459, which holds manufacturers and sellers liable for defective products, and the Consumer Protection Act , which provides protection for consumers in cases of poor quality products.

On 11/29/2025 at 12:36 PM, Pib said:

I haven't got a reply yet to the question I sent last night around 8pm to ReverAutomotive Customer Sevice on their Rever Automotive app regarding the battery lifetime warranty..

 

OK, this Sunday afternoon I got a response from Rever Automotive where I asked if my two year old 2023 Atto is eligible for the warranty.   Basically their answer was Yes and gave the following info/instructions.

 

"The Lifetime Warranty campaign will run from 28 Nov 2025 to 31 Dec 2025 with the following conditions:  

- The service center will verify the customers' information against the warranty booklet, including maintenance history, and check that the vehicle's average usage does not exceed 50,000km per year.  

- Vehicles over 8 years old, exceeding 160,000 km, or with average usage over 50,000 km per are not eligible to purchase the package.

- We recommend that customers bring their vehicles to a service center for inspection.  If the vehicle meets the conditions, the service center will submit the request in the system  and wait for approval.

- Once approved, customers will receive the documents via the email registered in the system within 15 days.

- If not approved, customers will be notified by email, and the service center will process a refund within 7 business days."

 

With above response I'll visit my local dealership tomorrow....hopefully dealerships have now received guidance/forms from Rever Automotive on how to handle the warranty.  

 

 

Motorshow walk around.

 

It wasn't too many many years ago when I struggled to find more than a couple of EVs in the whole show. Now it's "Spot the Fossil"

 

The 6 "pretties" in the thumbnail are trying to draw your attention to the new and improved Toyota bZ4XEV and the Toyota Pickup truck in the background is H2 powered....my mistake it's another EV.

 

 

All MG4’s regardless of age, are eligible for the Lifetime Battery/Drive Electronics Warranty.

 

We just had the seat motor switch replaced on my daughter’s 2023 MG4 under warranty, FOC. The seat would move forward but not back.  I had to take it for its service, not easy with the steering struck in your gut and sitting cross-legged.

6 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Riddara RD6 now offering 3 models, and a'ECON' model with scaled back fit & finish, along with smaller battery.   Think I'd just spend the 110k more for the mid offering.

Yeah, the 63kWh version will not even make 300km range. But it's a positive sign that they reduce price. I like the steel rims of the econ instead of the alloys. 

2 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

All MG4’s regardless of age, are eligible for the Lifetime Battery/Drive Electronics Warranty.

 

We just had the seat motor switch replaced on my daughter’s 2023 MG4 under warranty, FOC. The seat would move forward but not back.  I had to take it for its service, not easy with the steering struck in your gut and sitting cross-legged.

The lifetime battery warranty is good, however, I would be concerned about the quality of the rest of the car:

 

The MG4 EV is considered unreliable, with low scores in reliability surveys and common issues including electrical faults, interior and bodywork problems, and issues with the navigation and charging systems. According to a What Car? reliability survey, it received a reliability score of 63.8%. Other owners report issues like software glitches, poor cabin climate control, and safety feature malfunctions. 

7 hours ago, matchar said:

The lifetime battery warranty is good, however, I would be concerned about the quality of the rest of the car:

 

The MG4 EV is considered unreliable, with low scores in reliability surveys and common issues including electrical faults, interior and bodywork problems, and issues with the navigation and charging systems. According to a What Car? reliability survey, it received a reliability score of 63.8%. Other owners report issues like software glitches, poor cabin climate control, and safety feature malfunctions. 

 

Apart from the seat motor switch, our MG4 has been faultless.  Our MG EP+ was also faultless.

 

My friend has the MG4 X-Power, she met me at the dealership on Saturday to sign the Lifetme Warranty, her car has been faultless too.

11 hours ago, matchar said:

The lifetime battery warranty is good, however, I would be concerned about the quality of the rest of the car:

 

The MG4 EV is considered unreliable, with low scores in reliability surveys and common issues including electrical faults, interior and bodywork problems, and issues with the navigation and charging systems. According to a What Car? reliability survey, it received a reliability score of 63.8%. Other owners report issues like software glitches, poor cabin climate control, and safety feature malfunctions. 

 

The MG4 reliability paradox, scores poorly in formal reliability surveys but remains one of the most popular and well liked electric cars on the market.

On 11/28/2025 at 10:03 AM, Pib said:

IMO a potential winner as a "getting-around-town, short trips, car for uni kids" type car.....heck, even OK for l..o..n..g trips but just more charger stops.     And look at the low price!

 

https://autolifethailand.tv/official-price-geely-ex2-ev-bev-thailand/

 

GEELY EX2 100% electric car, official price: 399,990 - 429,990 baht | 39.4 kWh battery, range 395 km

 

 

 

 

On the paper (or pictures) looks good.

But you need to sit inside.

I've had the same good impression of the GWM Ora Good Cat until the test drive.

It was really bad. The seats and the overall interior arrangement and interior space (I'm 185cm).

Therefore we decided for the MG4

19 hours ago, matchar said:

The lifetime battery warranty is good, however, I would be concerned about the quality of the rest of the car:

 

The MG4 EV is considered unreliable, with low scores in reliability surveys and common issues including electrical faults, interior and bodywork problems, and issues with the navigation and charging systems. According to a What Car? reliability survey, it received a reliability score of 63.8%. Other owners report issues like software glitches, poor cabin climate control, and safety feature malfunctions. 

Wouldn't put too much stock in 'what car ?' survey, as less than 30k responded.   Lots of noted controversy about said survey on internet.

 

Only car survey I'd almost trust, would be 'consumer report' annual survey, 300k respondents, and subscription based for members only to reply.  Bought most of my vehicles based on their survey results and never a surprise.  Owned most USA brands and more than a few brands from JP auto makers.

 

Saying that, I doubt if I'd ever buy any model or brand I've owned in the past, with exception of MG, and only experience is with the ZS models, ICE & BEV.

 

Really don't trust any opinions, except from current or recent previous owners of any vehicle.  From the AN forum, most BEV owners seem very satisfied, and vehicles met or exceeded their expectations.  Along with pointing out minor annoyances 👍👍

Had a demo in the ZEEKR 7X earlier today, only the LR model, FWD one at the Motor Show so will try that one on the 14th.

 

Front seats nice, ride in front not as good as I expected and in the rear … personally I wouldn’t want to go a long way sitting in the back … I had it set to comfort, light steering and none sport mode.

 

Probably slightly quicker than our six and a half year old E350e, and when I got back into it felt just better! Maybe the sir suspension one will be better.

 

Car warranty is only five years with eight years on the battery. First inspection 40k kms or two years.

 

1 hour ago, JAS21 said:

Had a demo in the ZEEKR 7X earlier today, only the LR model, FWD one at the Motor Show so will try that one on the 14th.

 

Front seats nice, ride in front not as good as I expected and in the rear … personally I wouldn’t want to go a long way sitting in the back … I had it set to comfort, light steering and none sport mode.

 

Probably slightly quicker than our six and a half year old E350e, and when I got back into it felt just better! Maybe the sir suspension one will be better.

 

Car warranty is only five years with eight years on the battery. First inspection 40k kms or two years.

 

 

I was at the motor show today and the Zeekr 7X seats, especially the front seats, are very nice and comfortable.....best of any electric cars I have set in.   I sat in the Standard, Long Range, and Performance Zeekr 7X models.   Really nice looking car, especially the interior IMO.   But with only a few dealerships in country and average warranty that is a downside.   But  Zeekr booth had the prettiest "pretties" IMO.  😃

 

Took a few pictures of the Toyota bZ4X.....the Toyota booth had the hood open showing off the drive engine.   Bulky EV engine assembly and still uses a 12V "lead-acid" battery.  You would think a 2025 model would have transitioned from lead acid to LFP 12V battery....guess Toyota is still working to develop a 12V LFP battery....just around the corner.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And one final note from my motor show visit today....I have scratched MG  EVs  from my list for now since I can't find one I really like....their lifetime battery warranty is great, but none of the MG (including the IM series) EV models really turn me on for various reasons.  When visiting the MG/IM booths today I was most interested in the IM5 and IM6 but I have been thinking for months now that their interior display screens just didn't look that good but I had based that opinion on looking at a bunch Youtuble reviews.  But I was right when actually setting in both....I just don't like their center console or dash displays.....I don't like having to look down at the center console...and the dash display is just not tall enough.   Yea, unfortunately MG  EVs are off my shopping list right now....hopefully some future MG EV model will put them back on my list...I'm sure  MG corporate headquarters will discuss this at their next board meeting.  😃

10 hours ago, Fruit Trader said:

 

The MG4 reliability paradox, scores poorly in formal reliability surveys but remains one of the most popular and well liked electric cars on the market.

I have had an MG4 EV for nearly 4 years which has been amazingly reliable. I could complain about a few minor design issues and annoyances (to me) but certainly not the reliability.

1 hour ago, Pib said:

 

I was at the motor show today and the Zeekr 7X seats, especially the front seats, are very nice and comfortable.....best of any electric cars I have set in.   I sat in the Standard, Long Range, and Performance Zeekr 7X models.   Really nice looking car, especially the interior IMO.   But with only a few dealerships in country and average warranty that is a downside.   But  Zeekr booth had the prettiest "pretties" IMO.  😃

 

Then I will make an effort to go to the show …it’s only a few kms from where we live. Definitely all the AWD quota has gone and unlike Australia the green was not favored. I like the green with white interior.

 

i have joined the FB Group. ZEEKR 7X Australia -Group. Worth a read, But the seller told me that what Australia gets is a little different to Thailand…I didn’t ask for details.

8 hours ago, JAS21 said:

Then I will make an effort to go to the show …it’s only a few kms from where we live. Definitely all the AWD quota has gone and unlike Australia the green was not favored. I like the green with white interior.

 

i have joined the FB Group. ZEEKR 7X Australia -Group. Worth a read, But the seller told me that what Australia gets is a little different to Thailand…I didn’t ask for details.

If you are 60 or over the entry ticket is free vs Bt100....you get the free ticket at the VIP ticket windows vs regular ticket windows. 

 

The show opens to the public daily at 12pm (high noon).   You can enter the complex and get your ticket before 12pm but you can't go thru the ticket entry gates where the show actually is until 12pm with a free or paid ticket....only the show participants can get thru before 12pm.

 

I parked in the HUGE AKTIV  parking lot/field across from Challenger Hall...I parked from 11:30am to 3:05pm and total cost was Bt50.

 

The Zeekr booth is at the end of Hall #3.  I don't remember a green 7X but they did have the other exterior colors...and they had models with the white interior and also black interior.  Me don't favor white interiors as the are too hard to keep clean.

 

I enjoyed the trip yesterday...so, so, so many car brands and models to look at.  It helped me greatly to narrow down the field of current EVs I would be interested in vs trying to visit dozens of different dealerships who often still don't have the model or color you want to see...touch...set in...etc.

 

I test drove the MG IM6 when it came out, it wasn't the fast one.

 

It was ok, very comfortable but definitely overpriced, it should be competitive with the BYD Sealion but it's much more expensive.

For those of you wanting an EV that will stand out from other EVs, below NEX and GAC 100% EV models may interest you....but I think you will need a special license if wanting to test drive.    I'm thinking the GAC Air Cab model would solve all my Bangkok traffic problems, but I'm sure a boy-in-brown would still find a way to issue me a traffic ticket.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

8 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

I test drove the MG IM6 when it came out, it wasn't the fast one.

 

It was ok, very comfortable but definitely overpriced, it should be competitive with the BYD Sealion but it's much more expensive.

well, the IM6 is on the quasi-900V (875v) and the NMC battery can cost up to 20% more than the LFP.

 

 

On 11/30/2025 at 2:35 PM, KhunLA said:

Riddara RD6 now offering 3 models, and a'ECON' model with scaled back fit & finish, along with smaller battery.   Think I'd just spend the 110k more for the mid offering.

 

The base model has a lot stripped out, quite a lot, like only 2 airbags, no LED, most of the drive assisting features gone, and 17"Steel wheel with plastic cover! they went very far to make it cheaper.

however the mid spec really looks right and good pricing. I'm very tempted, because I decided to get the Hilux Champ, but for 200k more, I could get this very nice pickup that could also function as a main car and also cover my farming requirements, and very cheap 10 years ownership.