ASEAN seeks US support for peace efforts in Ukraine

[webfact]

U.S. President Joe Biden participates virtually with the ASEAN summit from an auditorium at the White House in Washington, U.S. October 26, 2021. REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst

 

ASEAN hopes the US will play a constructive role in backing an ASEAN effort to maintain peace and stability, to mitigate the negative impacts of the Ukraine conflict.

 

Director General of ASEAN Department Usana Berananda briefed the media on Thursday ahead of the May 12-13 special ASEAN-US summit in Washington DC, stating that COVID-19 impacts the whole region and every country wants to see the domestic and regional atmosphere as peaceful as possible and conducive to cooperation, more than confrontation.

 

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“We want to see the constructive role of the US in supporting ASEAN’s efforts in creating peace, maintaining regional stability and strengthening the cooperation of all sides affected by the situation in Ukraine,” she added.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/asean-seeks-us-support-for-peace-efforts-in-ukraine/

 

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[Jingthing]

The only real hope for peace in Ukraine, etc. is to beat Putin's ass in the WAR.  Clearly Asean wants to stay neutral. Not helpful!

[bkk6060]

53 minutes ago, webfact said:

US in supporting ASEAN’s efforts in creating peace, maintaining regional stability and strengthening the cooperation of all sides affected by the situation in Ukraine,”

What exactly is ASEAN doing in regards to this statement?

 

[Cake Monster]

6 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

What exactly is ASEAN doing in regards to this statement?

 

Good question

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

What exactly is ASEAN doing in regards to this statement?

 

Weak tea lip service of no consequence whatsoever. 

[Rimmer]

Troll post reported and removed

[TropicalGuy]

1 hour ago, bkk6060 said:

What exactly is ASEAN doing in regards to this statement?

 

Nothing ( as expected$.

NATO / US/ UK already doing the necessary from day one. Long Term European Security has really Nothing to do with ASEAN and requires Russia Defeated in Ukraine & Severely Weakened Economically by Western Sanctions.
 

ASEAN Irrelevant. Their pathetic fence - sitting “ neutrality” like India & UAE & Hungary, failing to condemn & act substantially against the clear illegal murdering aggressor, is clearly their Shameful Support for Putin.

It’s another “with us or against us” issue ( like GWOT).

Neutrals Against are Noted for future economic & political punishment.

Edited May 6, 2022 by TropicalGuy

[mtls2005]

1 hour ago, bkk6060 said:

What exactly is ASEAN doing in regards to this statement?

It's on the card accompanying the gift they went all in on...

 

The Appeasement Syrup is back-ordered.

 

 

[TropicalGuy]

1 hour ago, Cake Monster said:

Good question

Rhetorical. ASEAN clearly determined to Do Nothing except Support Russia by “ neutrality”. 

Their video circus show with Biden a bad political Joke.????

[itsari]

I suggest ASIAN concentrate on a subject closer to home such as the Myanmar takeover .

[John Drake]

How about the US apply reciprocal tariffs and erase the huge trade deficits it has with these midgets? See how they like being "neutral" then.

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

What exactly is ASEAN doing in regards to this statement?

 

It starts with F and ends with L

[natway09]

ASEAN, the toothless tiger goes on about Ukraine & wanting peace.

What about doing something constructive about Myanmar where people

are being persecuted within your own alliance & doing absolutely nothing

[Misterwhisper]

5 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

What exactly is ASEAN doing in regards to this statement?

 

Precisely nothing. As always. And which is EXACTLY what everybody expects from ASEAN.

[hughrection]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

ASEAN hopes the US will play a constructive role in backing an ASEAN effort to maintain peace and stability

This is a proxy war by America to plot the downfall of Russia.

This will be another Vietnam for Russia as long as NATO and Merca are involved.  ????

[zzaa09]

A bit ironic, as the U.S. certainly doesn't want peace in Ukraine - or anywhere else that they're involved.

[internationalism]

yes, another $30bln aid, mostly in armaments, was approved just a few days ago.

That on top of the previous multiple multi billion armaments deliveries.

That's why tens of thousand has died and why many millions forced to run abroad. 

Many more tens of thousands will die will die every month or two, with more migrants

Edited May 6, 2022 by internationalism

[Eric Loh]

6 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

What exactly is ASEAN doing in regards to this statement?

 

Nothing as far as the Group is concerned but tiny Singapore did imposed significant sanctions against Russia. These sanctions ranged from prohibitions on trade and investments and designation of specific nationals that cannot interact with the market and finacial system of US among other sanction measures. 

[Brian Hull]

The US might be more inclined to cooperate if member countries including Thailand condemned Russia's unjustified, unprovoked, and undeclared war on Ukraine, which is the cause of all the problems.

[billd766]

3 hours ago, Misterwhisper said:

Precisely nothing. As always. And which is EXACTLY what everybody expects from ASEAN.

ASEAN is a highly effective talking shop.

 

Sadly that is just about all they do

[billd766]

3 hours ago, hughrection said:

This is a proxy war by America to plot the downfall of Russia.

This will be another Vietnam for Russia as long as NATO and Merca are involved.  ????

So you believe that America told the Russians that they could invade the Ukraine, and the US would do nothing to stop them. Is that correct?

[futsukayoi]

11 hours ago, Jingthing said:

The only real hope for peace in Ukraine, etc. is to beat Putin's ass in the WAR.  Clearly Asean wants to stay neutral. Not helpful!

No such thing as nuetral.  You either do something positive to block Russian aggression or or you trade with Russia,

allow it's banks etc and provide active support for it's destruction of Ukraine.  

[futsukayoi]

4 hours ago, internationalism said:

yes, another $30bln aid, mostly in armaments, was approved just a few days ago.

That on top of the previous multiple multi billion armaments deliveries.

That's why tens of thousand has died and why many millions forced to run abroad. 

Many more tens of thousands will die will die every month or two, with more migrants

But sadly not enough and so it is the innocent Ukranians dying. Nato could declare a no fly zone over civilian areas and refugee corridors.  They could insist that any missiles,artillery etc targetting civilian will be taken out by NATO drones and airstrikes after all that must be helping Russia if their cxlaims that it is Ukranians attacking their own people are true.  If that causes Russia to escallate good at the moment they are heavily ties up and very weak.  Five years from now when they have earned some lessons rearmed and deployed T14s and other systems they will be much harder to stop and still trying to get NATO to backdown over fear of escallation when they attack the Baltic states, part of the Balkans or wherever next.  

 

Of course as you seem to suggest we could just allow Russia to recalim all of eastern Europe and put the polulations under the horrors they experience under the USSR.  Back to when I spent 3 years in the early 80s waiting for them to assault western Europe as well.

[internationalism]

4 minutes ago, futsukayoi said:

But sadly not enough and so it is the innocent Ukranians dying. Nato could declare a no fly zone over civilian areas and refugee corridors.  They could insist that any missiles,artillery etc targetting civilian will be taken out by NATO drones and airstrikes after all that must be helping Russia if their cxlaims that it is Ukranians attacking their own people are true.  If that causes Russia to escallate good at the moment they are heavily ties up and very weak.  Five years from now when they have earned some lessons rearmed and deployed T14s and other systems they will be much harder to stop and still trying to get NATO to backdown over fear of escallation when they attack the Baltic states, part of the Balkans or wherever next.  

 

Of course as you seem to suggest we could just allow Russia to recalim all of eastern Europe and put the polulations under the horrors they experience under the USSR.  Back to when I spent 3 years in the early 80s waiting for them to assault western Europe as well.

that would mean 3rd WW and very likely nuclear war.

As I understand you are a former military, as such you should have more imagination and planning as to military matters.

There is no any other solution, as a pacifist , anty-militarist and internationalist, as diplomatic solution.

Escalation of military conflict leads to more suffering

Edited May 6, 2022 by internationalism

[NorthernRyland]

4 hours ago, zzaa09 said:

A bit ironic, as the U.S. certainly doesn't want peace in Ukraine - or anywhere else that they're involved.

The US regime is overtly anti-Russian and now essentially fighting a proxy war against Russia. If this boils over in to a full blown war it will be their fault as much as anyone. Best thing for world peace is for the US to go back home and leave Russia and Ukraine to resolve their disputes.

[NorthernRyland]

2 hours ago, billd766 said:

So you believe that America told the Russians that they could invade the Ukraine, and the US would do nothing to stop them. Is that correct?

I don't understand the full depth of it but a large reason for invading Ukraine was due their current Western-allied (puppet?) government which is hostile to Russia. We've seen the puppet regimes and proxy wars fought over the years by the US so it's not hard to see how this is an existential threat to Russia to have this on their border. Consider what happened in Vietnam, Iraq, Lebanon etc.. and it makes sense why Putin snapped and finally put his foot down.

[ozimoron]

16 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

The US regime is overtly anti-Russian and now essentially fighting a proxy war against Russia. If this boils over in to a full blown war it will be their fault as much as anyone. Best thing for world peace is for the US to go back home and leave Russia and Ukraine to resolve their disputes.

When a powerful country invades a much smaller and weaker nation should the whole world just stand back and do nothing? Should Australia not have helped Timor when it was invaded by Indonesia and massacres occurred? Should the US not have bombed Belgrade?

[billd766]

6 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

I don't understand the full depth of it but a large reason for invading Ukraine was due their current Western-allied (puppet?) government which is hostile to Russia. We've seen the puppet regimes and proxy wars fought over the years by the US so it's not hard to see how this is an existential threat to Russia to have this on their border. Consider what happened in Vietnam, Iraq, Lebanon etc.. and it makes sense why Putin snapped and finally put his foot down.

Russia of course considers the Ukraine a hot bed of Nazis which it clearly isn't.

 

BTW why did Russia annex the Crimea?

 

And how many other nations which were formerly Russian puppet states are still bordering now democratic countries and yet still on the borders?

 

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/map-europe-divided-nato-russia-2016-7

 

[NorthernRyland]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

When a powerful country invades a much smaller and weaker nation should the whole world just stand back and do nothing? Should Australia not have helped Timor when it was invaded by Indonesia and massacres occurred? Should the US not have bombed Belgrade?

This invasion didn't happen at random, there's a history to it and the US is at the center. Go read Putin's "Empire of Lies" speech and he explains. 

[NorthernRyland]

10 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Russia of course considers the Ukraine a hot bed of Nazis which it clearly isn't.

My understanding is that it's not about Ukraine as much as NATO and the current REGIME in Ukraine.  If the US wants this to end they just need to negotiate a withdrawal but that's never going to happen as they appear to be determined to crush Russia for reason I don't fully understand but there's a long history there also.

 

Read Putin's speech on the matter.

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-24/full-transcript-vladimir-putin-s-televised-address-to-russia-on-ukraine-feb-24