Child falls down drain at Pattaya hotel - execs tell the press to stop filming to prevent loss of face

[webfact]

Picture: Siam Rath

 

Siam Rath reported on an incident last night in which a 12 year old girl got stuck in a drain at a hotel near the dolphin roundabout in North Pattaya.

 

They said that hotel executives tried to stop them filming and taking pictures as they were so worried about being exposed and losing face. 

 

Sawang Boriboon rescue were called around 7.30 pm after hospital staff were unable to get B's left leg out of the drain that had a heavy three and a half inch cover. 

 

Cutting equipment was needed and it took five minutes before she was safely removed.

 

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Her lower left leg had an injury and abrasions and after first aid she was taken to Bangkok Pattaya Hospital.

 

Her aunt Jutharat, 39, said she had been walking in the gardens with B when she heard her scream up ahead. 

 

Staff were called but couldn't resolve the matter so rescue services were needed.

 

Not surprisingly in defamation crazy Thailand, Siam Rath did not name the hotel in their article. 

 

But they made a point in both their headline and in the body of their story at how hotel officials had tried to hush up the incident. 

 

 

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[worgeordie]

23 minutes ago, webfact said:

as they were so worried about being exposed and losing face. 

Big problem here.....God forbid the true gets out

regards Worgeordie

[spidermike007]

There is a reason why some people should be ignored and scorned. And who listens to executives anyway? Most are empty suits. 

 

Defy idiots. Do what you need to do, and always ignore cowardly threats of defamation. 

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

They said that hotel executives tried to stop them filming and taking pictures as they were so worried about being exposed and losing face. 

If the executives had an ounce of savvy, they could have used the press to highlight the hotels staff reactions to the "accident" and how they organised prompt and expert help in having the girl released from the drain cover.

Siting that all staff are trained in such emergencies.

Yet they only understand COVER-UP!!!!!

[new2here]

49 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

If the executives had an ounce of savvy, they could have used the press to highlight the hotels staff reactions to the "accident" and how they organised prompt and expert help in having the girl released from the drain cover.

Siting that all staff are trained in such emergencies.

Yet they only understand COVER-UP!!!!!

I agree.. a good, sharp PR team could have minimized any initial public blow back … and even turned it into something like a positive — sure, it’s spin.. but that’s what PR and media relations is.. controlling the narrative to a direction most favorable to your position while being the least favorable to that of your opposition (if applicable) 

The other thing is largely you don’t want the public shaping their own opinion as many will automatically take the position that’s least favorable to you … and once that initial position is formed, it’s hard to change later on. 

[rudi49jr]

Either stop filming, or we will sue you for defamation! Twerps.

[IAMHERE]

I'd tend to think every hotel in that vicinity is suspect now. 

[chilli42]

7 hours ago, worgeordie said:

Big problem here.....God forbid the true gets out

regards Worgeordie

Truth? How unwelcome a concept. The other guy is always to blame.

[KannikaP]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

the drain that had a heavy three and a half inch cover. 

 

Cutting equipment was needed and it took five minutes before she was safely removed.

Was that 3.5 inches thick? If so, 5 minutes was good going.

[Purdey]

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Defy idiots. Do what you need to do, and always ignore cowardly threats of defamation. 

It is a criminal, not civil, case in Thailand. You can go to prison for defamation. If you have ever seen the inside of a Thai prison, it is not recommended.

[Tug]

All things aside I’m just glad the young lady is ok and I hope the hotel can (save face) by awarding an appropriately sized brown envelope to the young lass

[Sydebolle]

One for the money, two for the face ....... nothing changed. 

[peter zwart]

I dont understand and i will never understand this " losing Face". In most situations its about the most selfish thing to think about.

[SCOTT FITZGERSLD]

Reminds me of...myself !!

few weeks ago i was walking near sukhumvit road soi 16, when suddenly

i twisted my ankle because of an uneven road blocks.

this made me look around and realise in what dirt hole i am walking.

the streets are dirty, electricity wires popping out everywhere, dangerous ladyboys and prostitutes in every corner, sex toys and fake viagra stalls every few meters, stuff, and yet very expensive real estate, apartments and condos, sold and rented at top first world prices.

[spidermike007]

It comes down to perhaps the single most significant weakness most Thai people have. The pathological fear of losing face. Who cares what people think of you? For those of us with high self esteem, it just does not matter. Sure, close friends and family. But strangers on the street? It means nothing what they think, nor what they say about you. Nothing, less than zero. They count for nothing. They are just people, and people you do not know, nor will ever see again.

 

Face is rife with self doubt, and by subscribing to this weakness, and man or woman is made a far lesser person. I consider the practice of face to be the polar opposite of the practice of Buddhism, which teaches the need for introspection, contemplation, owning up to a problem, and taking responsibility for issues, problems and tragedies that you create in life.

[Golden Triangle]

I can only think of one large, well known hotel in that area, I think it begins with ? ????????

[billd766]

20 hours ago, KannikaP said:

Was that 3.5 inches thick? If so, 5 minutes was good going.

That would be about 90mm thick, and yes it would be heavy.

 

 

[petermik]

44 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said:

I can only think of one large, well known hotel in that area, I think it begins with ? ????????

Two actually.....the d and the a.......

[Golden Triangle]

10 minutes ago, petermik said:

Two actually.....the d and the a.......

Thanks ????

[RocketDog]

On 5/7/2022 at 5:32 PM, KannikaP said:

Was that 3.5 inches thick? If so, 5 minutes was good going.

Maybe they cut the leg instead. Much easier.

[KannikaP]

She did NOT fall down the drain. She merely got her left foot caught in one of the gaps in the cover.

[Leaver]

On 5/7/2022 at 8:13 AM, hotchilli said:

If the executives had an ounce of savvy, they could have used the press to highlight the hotels staff reactions to the "accident" and how they organised prompt and expert help in having the girl released from the drain cover.

Siting that all staff are trained in such emergencies.

Yet they only understand COVER-UP!!!!!

 

Not only cover up, but victim blaming as well. 

[LarrySR]

I know for a fact the police and press will accept gratuities to suppress negative stories that may effect prestigious entities. 
This story somehow got out.