Popular Post webfact Posted May 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2022 Picture: Thai Rath Friday 13th proved to be very unlucky for a rifle range instructor after he was shot dead by a beginner student yesterday. Klong 5 police in Pathum Thani north of the Thai capital Bangkok went with rescue services to the 333 Range in Klong Luang at 11.30 am. There Lt-Col Somboon Khopkhokkruat found 37 year old Charnchai Lunseup from Phetchabun unconscious after being shot in the shoulder with a 9 mm gun used at the range in an area for beginners. Keep up to date with all things Thailand - Join our daily ASEAN NOW Thailand Newsletter - Click to subscribe Picture: Thai Rath Rescue services gave CPR and transported the victim to Thanyaburi Hospital but he could not be revived and died there. A Glock 19 was taken into evidence as police photgraphed the scene and gathered witness statements. The person who fired the gun was a 50 year old student named only as Thacha. She said she thought that it was a dummy round after picking up a bullet mixed with others on the floor, reported Thai Rath. She was taken to the police station for questioning but as yet no charges have been filed. An autopsy is underway. -- © Copyright ASEAN NOW 2022-05-14 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. Get your business in front of millions of customers who read ASEAN NOW with an interest in Thailand every month - email [email protected] for more information 1 2 11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cabradelmar Posted May 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2022 I own handguns. I shoot IDPA and have been to many ranges with many instructors, and never have I used or even seen a "dummy" round. The gun is either loaded or it's not. Your job is to know which it is. Why would this even happen? This confusion about the round being live or not. Or is the only dummy here the person who shot the instructor. 53 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AwwYesNice1 Posted May 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cabradelmar said: I own handguns. I shoot IDPA and have been to many ranges with many instructors, and never have I used or even seen a "dummy" round. The gun is either loaded or it's not. Your job is to know which it is. Why would this even happen? This confusion about the round being live or not. Or is the only dummy here the person who shot the instructor. Or even had the guy pointed anywhere but downrange. 29 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shuya Posted May 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2022 21 minutes ago, webfact said: She said she thought that it was a dummy round Guess the round was not the dummy here 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JeffersLos Posted May 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2022 22 minutes ago, webfact said: An autopsy is underway. My guess is it was due to being shot. 4 37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunLA Posted May 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2022 (edited) "She said she thought that it was a dummy round after picking up a bullet mixed with others on the floor" ???????? I hope that is lost in translation. Edited May 14, 2022 by KhunLA 19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Henryford Posted May 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2022 Even if it was a dummy why did she aim at the instructor and fire? 24 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post darksidedog Posted May 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2022 I guess the instructor never told her the very first rule of never pointing a gun at anyone, whether it is loaded or not. 33 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wiggy Posted May 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2022 32 minutes ago, webfact said: She was taken to the police station for questioning but as yet no charges have been filed. They need to check her bank balance and ‘know who she is’ first to decide whether to press charges, or not. 9 2 4 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wiggy Posted May 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, Henryford said: Even if it was a dummy why did she aim at the instructor and fire? Because she’s a halfwit? 5 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Reposed Posted May 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2022 39 minutes ago, Cabradelmar said: I own handguns. I shoot IDPA and have been to many ranges with many instructors, and never have I used or even seen a "dummy" round. The gun is either loaded or it's not. Your job is to know which it is. Why would this even happen? This confusion about the round being live or not. Or is the only dummy here the person who shot the instructor. The gun is always loaded. 20 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted May 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2022 She said she thought that it was a dummy round after picking up a bullet mixed with others on the floor, reported Thai Rath. She was taken to the police station for questioning but as yet no charges have been filed. Huh? Even if she thought it was a "dummy round", why would she be pointing the gun at the instructor, then firing the gun? And why would a gun have blanks at a firing range? So many unanswered questions. Looks like manslaughter to me. 14 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lemsta69 Posted May 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2022 16 minutes ago, Reposed said: The gun is always loaded. unless you're Alec Baldwin and then it's everyone else's fault ???? 14 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemsta69 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 maybe she's Thailand's version of Mrs. Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scorecard Posted May 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Cabradelmar said: I own handguns. I shoot IDPA and have been to many ranges with many instructors, and never have I used or even seen a "dummy" round. The gun is either loaded or it's not. Your job is to know which it is. Why would this even happen? This confusion about the round being live or not. Or is the only dummy here the person who shot the instructor. And 'students' stotally supervised at all times and not allowed to just pick up rounds from the floor an assume anything! I recall my weapons training / live firing in the early days of national service training. Totally structured and supervised. Students not allowed to do anything except exactly what they were told to do and supervised to do. And after every round fired students cannot move at all until things are checked and then students ordered to put the pistol/rifle down and before they do that a strict triple reminder where the barrel must be pointed at all times. This incident sounds like a picnic and a recipe for didaster. 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 sounds like she forgot to wear her glasses that day. 1 hour ago, webfact said: after picking up a bullet mixed with others on the floor sounds like she forgot to wear her glasses .... Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vinci Posted May 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2022 why did she pointed a gun at the instructor to begin with, even if it was a dummy round she still pull the trigger, make you wonder sometime 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post connda Posted May 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2022 The range master and instructor needs to be in control of people in the range - always! Assume your gun is loaded at all times What do you do if you check your gun and it's unloaded? See rule 1. Never point your gun an anything or anyone you don't mean to shoot or kill. Keep the muzzle pointed down-range at all times. If a person is downrange, unload the gun, holster it, or put in on the bench with the breach open. So let me get this right. Student picks up a unfired bullet off the floor Student thinks that unfired bullet is a "dummy" Student loads "dummy" in magazine, racks a round (this isn't stated - But - there is no other way to get that round in the barrel. Student playful shoots the instructor with a "dummy" round.There is so much about this story that is totally - wrong. 19 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post connda Posted May 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Cabradelmar said: I own handguns. I shoot IDPA and have been to many ranges with many instructors, and never have I used or even seen a "dummy" round. The gun is either loaded or it's not. Your job is to know which it is. Why would this even happen? This confusion about the round being live or not. Or is the only dummy here the person who shot the instructor. They are real. They are called "snap caps." You can use them for dry firing, or they can be useful when working with a student to get them use to clearing an unexpected misfire. Edited May 14, 2022 by connda 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kcpattaya Posted May 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2022 Seems to me that there is more to this story... 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post seajae Posted May 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2022 the very first lesson should always be "never point the gun at anyone as well as always have your finger on the trigger guard until you are point the gun at a target and are ready to shoot", must have been a very bad instructor but typical of the expertise in Thailand. Have to wonder why she also pulled the trigger while pointing the gun at him and why she was loading the gun if it was only first time using it 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Liverpool Lou Posted May 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Henryford said: Even if it was a dummy why did she aim at the instructor and fire? Maybe she didn't, she was beginner so perhaps she was a bad shot and was aiming elsewhere. 1 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted May 14, 2022 Author Share Posted May 14, 2022 moved to Thailand news /WF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 25 minutes ago, kcpattaya said: Seems to me that there is more to this story... Seems to me you wouldn't know! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post greenmonkey Posted May 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Henryford said: Even if it was a dummy why did she aim at the instructor and fire? exactly! This is a very fishy story. Why on earth would a grown adult point a gun at their instructor and fire regardless of whether they thought it was loaded/unloaded/dummy bullet!??? Just crazy... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post greenmonkey Posted May 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2022 surely a shooting range has cctv... you would think!? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropicalGuy Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Cabradelmar said: I own handguns. I shoot IDPA and have been to many ranges with many instructors, and never have I used or even seen a "dummy" round. The gun is either loaded or it's not. Your job is to know which it is. Why would this even happen? This confusion about the round being live or not. Or is the only dummy here the person who shot the instructor. And the unfortunate victim who somehow got in front of a gun…at a gun range … huge no no. ???? heart attack from shock ? Nobody dies from a 9 mm round to the shoulder! it surely must have deflected to heart ? A 7.62 or 50 cal hit is certainly possible to kill though, anywhere , from massive kinetic energy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excel Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 1 minute ago, greenmonkey said: surely a shooting range has cctv... you would think!? Perhaps the cameras were STF ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TropicalGuy Posted May 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2022 52 minutes ago, connda said: They are real. They are called "snap caps." You can use them for dry firing, or they can be useful when working with a student to get them use to clearing an unexpected misfire. Wouldn’t have any non- live ammo at ranges here. Only live rounds. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mywayboy Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 3 hours ago, JeffersLos said: My guess is it was due to being shot. Since maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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