Popular Post webfact Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 Sanook Thai Caption: A student kicked me (says teacher) Thai media Thai Rath and Sanook investigated at a school in Loei in NE Thailand after reports on Line that a social studies teacher had been attacked by a M2, 14 year old student. The teacher had told the pupil before the last period of the day they he would cut his hair that was too long. It would be done in front of the class. As all the students were sitting the boy in question came forward and attacked Charnsak with several kicks then threw a plastic chair at him. Keep up to date with all things Thailand - Join our daily ASEAN NOW Thailand Newsletter - Click to subscribe Picture: Thai Rath He was injured in several places but did not fight back as it was a student. However they fought over a pair of scissors. The teacher was worried they might be used as a weapon. A fellow student aged 13 told Thai Rath that the boy in question had planned the attack. Picture: Thai Rath While a fellow female teacher said she was appalled that a teacher who was there to teach children would be attacked in this way. No one mentioned human rights just that long hair was against school rules for secondary pupils, notes ASEAN NOW. -- © Copyright ASEAN NOW 2022-06-02 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. Get your business in front of millions of customers who read ASEAN NOW with an interest in Thailand every month - email [email protected] for more information 3 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DezLez Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 I do not condone the boy attacking the teacher but teachers should not be cutting pupil's hair! 34 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 This doesn't surprise me. It was just a matter of time in fact. It also wouldn't surprise me if a gun is used at some point in the future. They need to stop this humiliating practice immediately before someone gets seriously hurt, either by a student or a parent. People get killed here for a lot less than humiliating/assaulting someone's child. 22 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post khwaibah Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 %$@% the teacher. Fire her or him. 11 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hamus Yaigh Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 It was self defense by the student. Teachers doing this should be outlawed. 17 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post trainman34014 Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 Teachers need to spend more time actually 'teaching' something useful or; God Forbid', answering questions, as the majority of Kids coming out of School here know little more than when they went in ! The whole Education system is an utter disgrace. 12 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NanLaew Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, webfact said: While a fellow female teacher said she was appalled that a teacher who was there to teach children would be attacked in this way. How about being appalled that the teacher thought he was there to be a barber? Edited June 2, 2022 by NanLaew 14 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunLA Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 Kudos to the student for standing for himself. Not sure what 'planning the attack' would actually be. Did he simply state if teacher tries to cut my hair, I'm resisting by any means. Or I'm going to attack the teacher pre-emptive. Either way, teachers should not be touching students at all, for any reason. 13 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post seajae Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) teacher got what he deserved, trying to embarrass the student by doing it in front of the class and he would have screwed up his hair as well, he is not a hair dresser, he should have told the student to get his hair cut at a hair dressing shop. While the student did the wrong thing I cannot lay the blame on him as the teacher was the one in the wrong, thai teachers think they are gods even though a lot are pathetic teachers at best Edited June 2, 2022 by seajae 12 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StayinThailand2much Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) Not the hair length of students is the biggest problem schools in Thailand face, but corruption, using the school as a money-spinner, unqualified teachers, lack of/ unsuitable/outdated teaching aids and materials, and outdated teaching practices (e.g. rote learning, teacher-centred education, etc.), more reminiscent of 1922 than 2022... Edited June 2, 2022 by StayinThailand2much 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post foreverlomsak Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) The Department of Education have stated many times that teachers should not cut students hair, or otherwise inflict marks in the students hair causing the hair to be needing cut. The first time I heard of this "hands off" policy was back in 2008/9 when I started studying for a Thai teachers license. Edited June 2, 2022 by foreverlomsak Clarification 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 2 hours ago, webfact said: As all the students were sitting the boy in question came forward and attacked Charnsak with several kicks then threw a plastic chair at him. All things considered...fair enough. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 hour ago, JonnyF said: This doesn't surprise me. It was just a matter of time in fact. It also wouldn't surprise me if a gun is used at some point in the future. We're not in the US. 1 hour ago, JonnyF said: They need to stop this humiliating practice immediately before someone gets seriously hurt, either by a student or a parent. People get killed here for a lot less than humiliating/assaulting someone's child. A valid point... There seems to be some ‘brainwashing’ amongst the poor that make it acceptable for authority figures to treat those considered below them in an extremely poor manner. Teachers seem to be revered (not a bad thing), but it leads to a corrupted idea of power and that is detrimental to the education system on a whole (i.e .when kids can’t question the teacher). In this example and the many public examples of ‘hair cutting in schools’ gone before the idea that a teacher cuts a childs hair is outrageous, its assault - the child could argue he was defending himself. There is a simple solution: Contact the parents and ask them to ensure their son’s hair is cut. Additionally, hair cutting: Is there really a need for it ? I understand the need for keeping hair maintained to prevent spread of louse etc but that doesn’t mean the ‘military style buzz cut’ which removes the identity and individuality of children.... This is one of the many arenas where common sense and discretion is absent. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 hour ago, foreverlomsak said: The Department of Education have stated many times that teachers should not cut students hair, or otherwise inflict marks in the students hair causing the hair to be needing cut. The first time I heard of this "hands off" policy was back in 2008/9 when I started studying for a Thai teachers license. No one cares about the rules because there is no accountability for breaking them. This is Thailand, all of Thailand to a T.... Just do what you want, when an issue occurs it hits the news and social media for a few days, there is an ‘official announcement’ then back to normal, no change. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ikke1959 Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 A teacher teaches and a barber cuts hair... I know there are teachers who are barbers too in their spare time, but this is school and it is not done to cut hair of students.... There are other ways to let them cut their hair if they don't do...Of course the military regime has got their time and the children are now aware that enough is enough of all the stupid rules and must do's...Revolutions starts at schools mostly 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 2 hours ago, webfact said: While a fellow female teacher said she was appalled that a teacher who was there to teach children would be attacked in this way. Then teach the children and leave the hair cutting for the parents to deal with... Contact the parents if it bothers the teach (school that much). My Son goes to Int’l school and we’re fortunate that everything is run well, with common sense and in the Children's best interests. There are hair and jewellery rules, but they allow for common sense and safety... i.e. not too long and no crazy colours, no loose jewellery - thats about it. The whole idea of a teacher even contemplating cutting my sons hair is simply outside the realms of possibility... but Thai’s schools are pretty much victorian in their approach to education which really is a shame for Thailand. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: We're not in the US. A valid point... There seems to be some ‘brainwashing’ amongst the poor that make it acceptable for authority figures to treat those considered below them in an extremely poor manner. Teachers seem to be revered (not a bad thing), but it leads to a corrupted idea of power and that is detrimental to the education system on a whole (i.e .when kids can’t question the teacher). In this example and the many public examples of ‘hair cutting in schools’ gone before the idea that a teacher cuts a childs hair is outrageous, its assault - the child could argue he was defending himself. There is a simple solution: Contact the parents and ask them to ensure their son’s hair is cut. Additionally, hair cutting: Is there really a need for it ? I understand the need for keeping hair maintained to prevent spread of louse etc but that doesn’t mean the ‘military style buzz cut’ which removes the identity and individuality of children.... This is one of the many arenas where common sense and discretion is absent. Yes I am well aware we are not in the US. This thread is about Thailand and it may have escaped your attention that there are a lot of guns here and people get shot here for very minor reasons. I recall two in the last week. One because some guys turned up in a noisy cement truck and another because a stranger asked someone for a beer. Again, not in the US. In Thailand. You may also be aware that loss of face is no joke here. Forcibly cutting the hair of someone's child in front of their classmates would fall into that bracket so my point is maybe it would be prudent to stop this humiliating practice before a parent having a bad day turns up at the schoolgates and fixes the problem themselves, Thai style. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ikke1959 Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 2 hours ago, trainman34014 said: Teachers need to spend more time actually 'teaching' something useful or; God Forbid', answering questions, as the majority of Kids coming out of School here know little more than when they went in ! The whole Education system is an utter disgrace. The kids can't ask questions because the teacher doesn't know the answers.... When I was in school teaching I asked some teachers to explain something about a celebration and she didn't know what it was....just as an example.. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StayinThailand2much Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said: (...) but that doesn’t mean the ‘military style buzz cut’ which removes the identity and individuality of children.... I always suspected that this is the main reason. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 While I do not condone violence against teachers, I can understand the frustration. Why the need to humiliate the kid over a rather subjective decision about his hair? And why should a teacher have this authority? Why not punish the teacher for a lack of respect toward the student? I hear many stories about the arrogance of teachers here. Combined with the social pressures of not being able to question them or their curriculum, I understand the hatred of teachers, by many. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 45 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Yes I am well aware we are not in the US. This thread is about Thailand and it may have escaped your attention that there are a lot of guns here and people get shot here for very minor reasons. I recall two in the last week. One because some guys turned up in a noisy cement truck and another because a stranger asked someone for a beer. Again, not in the US. In Thailand. You may also be aware that loss of face is no joke here. Forcibly cutting the hair of someone's child in front of their classmates would fall into that bracket so my point is maybe it would be prudent to stop this humiliating practice before a parent having a bad day turns up at the schoolgates and fixes the problem themselves, Thai style. Take a deep breath..... I should have used an emoticon to highlight my ‘jibe at the US’ for their disproportionate and outrageous number of shootings, particularly school shootings (27 so far this year)... And of course, I agree... events such as this can trigger disproportionate and extreme acts of anger, revenge and violence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billd766 Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 35 minutes ago, ikke1959 said: The kids can't ask questions because the teacher doesn't know the answers.... When I was in school teaching I asked some teachers to explain something about a celebration and she didn't know what it was....just as an example.. If my son asks me a question at home that I don't know the answer to , I will tell him that I don't know. Then I will search the internet for the answer, hopefully with his help. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lite Beer Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 Seems like the student was defending himself against an assault. Well done boy. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post klauskunkel Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 4 hours ago, webfact said: While a fellow female teacher said she was appalled that a teacher who was there to teach children would be attacked in this way. Exactly. He is there to teach, not humiliate. By the way, how long is that fellow female teacher's hair? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StayinThailand2much Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 33 minutes ago, klauskunkel said: Exactly. He is there to teach, not humiliate. By the way, how long is that fellow female teacher's hair? That's a good idea. If they want conformity, then the male teachers should get the same haircut as the boys, and the female teachers the same as their female students. Wonder how this would work out... ???? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2long Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 The tide is turning... - Hair cuts in school. - Thinking for oneself. - How they view people who stole authority through the use of tanks and the invisible shield. - 56x2 - No longer believing everything that is told to them by 'elders & betters' from a young age. It's not all for the good, but most of it is. ???????????????????????????? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post paulikens Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 good on the student. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 5 hours ago, webfact said: The teacher had told the pupil before the last period of the day they he would cut his hair that was too long. It would be done in front of the class. Which recently was stated quite clearly my the education minister was ILLEGAL teacher you just learned a valuable lesson.. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 5 hours ago, webfact said: While a fellow female teacher said she was appalled that a teacher who was there to teach children would be attacked in this way. But not shocked at the verbal threat of cutting a students hair which is strictly illegal? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tony125 Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 hour ago, paulikens said: good on the student. Guess the teachers have'nt read the messages yet Teachers Told to Stop Punishing Students Over Hairstyle Violationshttps://thainews.prd.go.th/en/news/detail/TCATG220524223804970#:~:text=Teachers Told to Stop Punishing Students Over Hairstyle Violations,-24 May 2022&text=BANGKOK (NNT) - The Ministry,punishment for breaking hairstyle rules. Education Minister Trinuch Thienthong said during a meeting that no ministerial regulation allows teachers to humiliate students who violate hairstyle regulations by arbitrarily trimming or cutting their hair. There are many other articles in Thai Media that ThaiVisa cannot quote stating teachers are no longer allowed to cut students hair. Try and you get what you deserve., hopefully. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now