Monks fighting at Big C over alms positions - "They are nothing better than devils" says abbot

[webfact]

Daily News Thai Caption: A devil grabbing merit! 

 

Thai social media and religious circles were abuzz with comment after two elderly monks were involved in a most unholy of confrontations.

 

A 60 year old in saffron robes used a rock to whack an 83 year old monk causing him to need 13 stitches, reported Daily News.

 

It happened outside a Big C in Bang Yai, Nonthaburi early on Wednesday morning as both monks were arguing about who had the right to stand where to receive alms.

 

Picture: Daily News

 

It was like taxi drivers arguing over a rank, notes ASEAN NOW. 

 

Local abbot at Wat Suan Kaew Phra Phayom Knayano saw it more in terms of Thai religious and animist beliefs.

 

He said it was like "Praet Yaeng Bun Kan" - devils arguing over merit. 

 

Praet at a Thai temple

 

Praet are tall devilish creatures believed to inhabit the underworld who are punished for their sins in life. Their grotesque images are often depicted in stone at temples throughout Thailand to warn the faithful.

 

"Real monks don't do this," said Phayom. "Real monks follow the precepts and "binthabaht' (collect alms) in a spirit of togetherness.

 

"If you can't behave properly why be a monk at all - just defrock yourself and go back to the laity".

 

"This is just praet behaviour, nothing to do with proper monks". 

 

 

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[edwinchester]

Monkhood Pay Per View event of the year?

[ezzra]

Gone are the days where monks were ordained for the pure purposes of unselfishly serving Buddha and the community, nowadays its more like running a business and controlling spots and busy areas for maximum returns...

[Will B Good]

4 minutes ago, ezzra said:

Gone are the days where monks were ordained for the pure purposes of unselfishly serving Buddha and the community, nowadays its more like running a business and controlling spots and busy areas for maximum returns...

Like all religions, political doctrines etc,........they work fine as long as humans are not involved.

[klauskunkel]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

"If you can't behave properly why be a monk at all - just defrock yourself and go back to the laity".

Laity says: "We don't want them."

[Photoguy21]

They should be removed from being a monk, obviously they are not fit to wear the robe

[Chris.B]

"two elderly monks  ................................a 60 year old in saffron robes"

 

Ohh,  I have no chance then, elderly it is!  ????

 

[daveAustin]

Pathetic from both of them, esp for the one hitting an older dude. One of the main tenets of buddhism - no desire/no self. They are not real monks and/or forgot the basics. Sadly, many charlatans wear an orange robe and I wouldn't necessarily trust a guy just because he has one on.

[kidneyw]

9 hours ago, webfact said:

 

A 60 year old in saffron robes used a rock to whack an 83 year old monk

You would think a 60 year old could take on an 83 year old without having to to use a rock. Unless he was a Shaolin monk.

[bbko]

Agree not real monks, just old men looking to get free food & a free place to stay pretending to be monks.  Zero respect.

[Burma Bill]

 

Are the "pot head" junkies now arriving????

[khaowong1]

My guess is the were fighting over a spot where they get some money in donations, not food. 

[sawadee1947]

10 hours ago, daveAustin said:

charlatans

And criminals too. Many from Burma with criminals records.

[khaowong1]

6 hours ago, sawadee1947 said:

And criminals too. Many from Burma with criminals records.

Burmese monks were a big problem in Thailand a few years ago.  They are coming here for the money. 

[sammieuk1]

Hopefully he blessed the stone as words sounding like holy rock were uttered by the 83 year old before a ringing sound and A+E took over ????

[BangkokReady]

23 hours ago, webfact said:

If you can't behave properly why be a monk at all

Sorry to sound a little sceptical, but, not having to work and getting everything for free?

[BangkokReady]

17 hours ago, daveAustin said:

They are not real monks and/or forgot the basics.

If the news is to be believed, many (maybe most?) monks in Thailand are not real monks.

 

If feel sorry for Thai people, whose kindness seems to be so often abused.

[BangkokReady]

23 hours ago, webfact said:

It was like taxi drivers arguing over a rank, notes ASEAN NOW. 

Can you "note" the opinion of the writer like this?  Shouldn't it be "suggests ASEAN NOW"?

[Excel]

1 minute ago, BangkokReady said:

If the news is to be believed, many (maybe most?) monks in Thailand are not real monks.

 

If feel sorry for Thai people, whose kindness seems to be so often abused.

Many are hiding out from justice or responsibilities of family life also. Thais say monks should sit higher than you but as I always reply , we know what also stays on top.

[brianthainess]

Just a Cult, financed by the Thai government to keep the masses controlled, like all religions. IMO

[Road Warrior]

naughty monks

[Troy Tempest]

On 6/17/2022 at 3:28 AM, ezzra said:

Gone are the days where monks were ordained for the pure purposes of unselfishly serving Buddha and the community, nowadays its more like running a business and controlling spots and busy areas for maximum returns...

 

[Iamfalang]

It's all relative.

 

If we ban monks, we really have to look to all those priests.   

 

how many kids???????????????????????????????   

 

 

[sanuk711]

Monks fighting at Big C over alms positions -

 

"They are nothing better than devils" says abbot--- So what I am going to do is....

 

A/ Ban them from the Temple

B/ Strip them of the Saffron --Let all the local people know

C/ Absolutely nothing.....

 

I dont gamble...but if I did , I think I know which one I would put my house on..........

[proton]

23 hours ago, Photoguy21 said:

They should be removed from being a monk, obviously they are not fit to wear the robe

If all were removed who were not fit to wear the robes there would not be many left. Then rules forbid them from having money and a mobile phone is not on the list of permitted possessions!

[vinci]

am an atheist, so their whole cult seem strange to me, but hey you do you

[Photoguy21]

9 minutes ago, vinci said:

am an atheist, so their whole cult seem strange to me, but hey you do you

As you are an Atheist you don't believe in God, well Buddhism doesn't speculate on the existence of a God either

[cdemundo]

"just defrock yourself "

 

I thought the forum had rules on this kind of language.

 

[khaowong1]

7 hours ago, Photoguy21 said:

As you are an Atheist you don't believe in God, well Buddhism doesn't speculate on the existence of a God either

Someone with a lot more Buddhist knowledge than me would have to check this, but I read somewhere, that Buddha was asked whether there was a "God" or not and he said that he checked everywhere, high and low, and could find no evidence that there was a "God" that had created everything.  ????‍♂️

[rskdev]

Just a big Ponzi scheme is all it is.