snoop1130 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Medical workers load syringes with the Moderna Covid-19 vaccine. (Photo by Apu GOMES / AFP) A senior Thai doctor has warned people not to underestimate the threat posed by the COVID-19 Omicron BA.4 and BA.5 sub-variants and has recommended additional booster shots, claiming that they can help ease serious consequences of infection by the mutated virus. Professor Dr. Prasit Watanapa, dean of the Faculty of Medicine at Siriraj Hospital, said today (Monday) that, although there is no clear evidence proving that the BA.4 and BA.5 sub-variants can cause more serious symptoms, there have been reports that the they transmit faster and are beginning to overtake the current BA.2 sub-variant. He said that more booster shots could help protect people from infection by the new sub-variants, as he advised thosewho have received three vaccine doses to receive a fourth dose and frontline medical staff to receive a fifth shot. Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/additional-booster-shots-recommended-against-covid-ba-4-and-ba-5-sub-variants/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2022-06-27 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. Easiest way to own or rent a car in Thailand - click here to find out more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ourmanflint Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Wife has just caught Covid after being in Thailand for 4 days, never had it before in UK, another friend also caught covid whilst in Thailand. Seems it is rife over there at the moment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post twix38 Posted June 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) I just had Moderna as my 4th - 2nd booster. Astra Zenica twice then pfizer last Nov and Moderna a week ago. However, I've been in uk past 2 1/2 years and flying to thailand in a weeks time. Hopefully well protected. Not had covid so far. Feel I'm bound to catch it on plane or in Thailand but reassured I'm as protected as possible from hospitalization, long covid or death. Vaccination wise at least, I'm sure glad I've been in UK. Good NHS early and free roll out programme. Edited June 27, 2022 by twix38 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GeorgeCross Posted June 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2022 6 hours ago, ourmanflint said: Wife has just caught Covid after being in Thailand for 4 days, never had it before in UK, another friend also caught covid whilst in Thailand. Seems it is rife over there at the moment have covid at the moment, so does my wife. i'd say there is more covid around now than there was at the "peak". back then i'd struggle to name a single person who'd had it. that we know of right now.. cleaners whole family have it, 2 of wifes friends, 2 build crews we know, pool guys had it last week, list goes on and on. thing is no-one is bothering to report it anymore unless getting really sick so job done, low numbers, tourism back on track. going to be interesting when those flights start returning to china! 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 4MyEgo Posted June 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, twix38 said: Not had covid so far. Feel I'm bound to catch it on plane or in Thailand but reassured I'm as protected as possible from hospitalization, long covid or death. You'll laugh once you've had it, I did, thought it was a head cold, whole family had it, not bad at all, lots of friends had it and some do now, some in their 70's, water off a ducks back as the old saying goes, and they have flogged this horse for far too long IMO. Just enjoy yourself as if it didn't exists as it's coming to a place near you ???? Edited June 27, 2022 by 4MyEgo 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 9 hours ago, ourmanflint said: Wife has just caught Covid after being in Thailand for 4 days, never had it before in UK, another friend also caught covid whilst in Thailand. Seems it is rife over there at the moment Nearly everyone my wife knows here has had Covid. Only one has been very ill, and she also has cancer which might well be a factor in that - pre-exisiting conditions. I'll probably wander along to my local village hospital for a 4th shot, because it's easy and free so why not? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eaglekott Posted June 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2022 5 hours ago, Toany said: Symptoms from Covid is mild if you are Vaccinated, so there is a catch 22. If you are not vaccinated there is a risk you get severe sick and can even die from it. Easy choice. I have not heard any of all my friends that got vaccinated that had any serious side effects. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steven100 Posted June 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) geeeze ..... I'm not a bloody pin cushion ! Edited June 28, 2022 by steven100 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 13 hours ago, ourmanflint said: Wife has just caught Covid after being in Thailand for 4 days, never had it before in UK, another friend also caught covid whilst in Thailand. Seems it is rife over there at the moment Just heard on the radio how the UK's Covid infection (R rate) has just gone back over 1.0 again. 24 June 2022 The R range for England is 1.1 to 1.4 and the growth rate range for England is +2% to +5% per day as of 24 June 2022. 27 May 2022 The R range for England is 0.7 to 0.9 and the growth rate range for England is -4% to -2% per day as of 27 May 2022. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-r-value-and-growth-rate I blame Glastonbury! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ourmanflint Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Eaglekott said: Symptoms from Covid is mild if you are Vaccinated, so there is a catch 22. If you are not vaccinated there is a risk you get severe sick and can even die from it. Easy choice. I have not heard any of all my friends that got vaccinated that had any serious side effects. So very true. A school friend of my wife died from covid about a month ago, he worked as a chemist (druggist) but refused to have a vaccine. He was 50 and otherwise healthy Edited June 28, 2022 by ourmanflint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, spidermike007 said: Is anyone really sick? Any hospitalizations required? It does seem to be far milder and not a big deal for most people. The new variants are a non factor, until proven otherwise. No proof they are more troublesome than Omi yet. Worry about the stuff we can control. I got it almost a month ago after more tourists were allowed in, and thereby more crowded in Samui's still low-level party life. I'm fully AZ-vaccinated with a Pfizer booster-jab, which was almost five moth old when Covid hit me. Not really sick, hardly one day with light fever, but tired for a while thereafter. Of course I stayed isolated for almost two weeks. They recommend second booster six month after the first, so might be that booster-protection was low; or might be that numerous vaccines protects one from serious illness; or might be that vaccine don't work at all agaist the new variants, and might therefore be that Covid is no longer anything to care much about...???? Anyway I got my second booster exactly six month after the first, thank you Thailand for taking care of an alien like me... As to Worldometer today, total deaths in Thailand from the Covid pandemic - now totaling little more than two years - are 30,623. Edited June 28, 2022 by onthedarkside text associated with invalid/broken weblink removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted June 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2022 54 minutes ago, khunPer said: I got it almost a month ago after more tourists were allowed in, and thereby more crowded in Samui's still low-level party life. I'm fully AZ-vaccinated with a Pfizer booster-jab, which was almost five moth old when Covid hit me. Not really sick, hardly one day with light fever, but tired for a while thereafter. Of course I stayed isolated for almost two weeks. They recommend second booster six month after the first, so might be that booster-protection was low; or might be that numerous vaccines protects one from serious illness; or might be that vaccine don't work at all agaist the new variants, and might therefore be that Covid is no longer anything to care much about...???? Anyway I got my second booster exactly six month after the first, thank you Thailand for taking care of an alien like me... As to Worldometer today, total deaths in Thailand from the Covid pandemic - now totaling little more than two years - are 30,623. Considering there are about 563,000 deaths a year in Thailand, that number seems quite minor for 27 months and counting. Who knows how many "covid deaths" were people over 70, people who had a serious disease, and illness, people who may have died anyway. We will likely never know. That is NOT information they want us to have. Yet, so much panic. So much "life interrupted". So many sabotaged businesses, and way too many decimated lives. Totally unjustified in my book. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swm59nj Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just because certain individuals have had Covid and say it was nothing bad. Does not mean it won’t be serious for other people. The seriousness goes by medical studies. Not by individuals 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, spidermike007 said: Considering there are about 563,000 deaths a year in Thailand, that number seems quite minor for 27 months and counting. Who knows how many "covid deaths" were people over 70, people who had a serious disease, and illness, people who may have died anyway. We will likely never know. That is NOT information they want us to have. Yet, so much panic. So much "life interrupted". So many sabotaged businesses, and way too many decimated lives. Totally unjustified in my book. Yes, many - if not most - elder people with underlying illness. There has been a few cases on Samui with death connected to Covid-19 positive. Except one all were elder people with underlying illness, diabetes in every case. We don't know if it was Covid-19 that caused the death or they just happened to be Covid-19 positive when dying. Same seems to be the cases many places, same discussion in my Danish home country and neighboring Nordic states. Don't forget that WHO is political and might have a benefit from declaring pandemic. And WHO and various government might also be criticized if they had not declared pandemic. Edited June 28, 2022 by onthedarkside long out-of-date stats on COVID mortality removed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemsta69 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 9 hours ago, twix38 said: I just had Moderna as my 4th - 2nd booster. Astra Zenica twice then pfizer last Nov and Moderna a week ago. However, I've been in uk past 2 1/2 years and flying to thailand in a weeks time. Hopefully well protected. Not had covid so far. Feel I'm bound to catch it on plane or in Thailand but reassured I'm as protected as possible from hospitalization, long covid or death. Vaccination wise at least, I'm sure glad I've been in UK. Good NHS early and free roll out programme. existing vaccines don't protect against the BA.4 and BA.5 sub-variants according to some sources. would post the link here but CNBF trying to figure out if it's verboten or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 26 minutes ago, swm59nj said: Just because certain individuals have had Covid and say it was nothing bad. Does not mean it won’t be serious for other people. The seriousness goes by medical studies. Not by individuals Yes, you are absolutely right, however the medical studies says the same, i.e. milder illness with less deaths compared to number os registered positive cases... Daily deaths in Thailand... vs daily cases in Thailand... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubby Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, Lemsta69 said: existing vaccines don't protect against the BA.4 and BA.5 sub-variants according to some sources. would post the link here but CNBF trying to figure out if it's verboten or not. If that's true, Lemsta69, that would suggest the fully vaccinated/boosted have now joined the ranks of the unvaccinated. In other words, no one is protected against COVID19 as it currently stands. It's possible, I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twix38 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) Yes, existing vaccines are not tailored to new sub variant, but it's not true, as they DO still provide a general immune protection response even so and should allow for a hospital and death free experience. Bottom line, that's all I'm really concerned about and its well protected even by current vaccines if up to booster stage and certainly for my 4 mixed shots. I'm not concerned at variant as vaccine will still be effective even if reduced and mixing is good.....2 Astrazenica. 1 Pfizer. 1 Moderna. Best I can do. Thanks UK NHS. ???? Heck, it's even the core content of this news article.... Medical workers load syringes with the Moderna Covid-19 vaccine. (Photo by Apu GOMES / AFP) A senior Thai doctor has warned people not to underestimate the threat posed by the COVID-19 Omicron BA.4 and BA.5 sub-variants and has recommended additional booster shots, claiming that they can help ease serious consequences of infection by the mutated virus. Edited June 28, 2022 by twix38 Update info 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Drake Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Three is enough. Not going to do four within a year, unless they require it for immigration. Then, I would opt for AZ. No mRNA at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phetphet Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Had 3 jabs. 2 x AZ, and last one 1 x Pfizer booster on 26/12/21. Still caught Covid over Songkran. The advice I read said don't vaccinate for six months after any infection. So I will not bother looking into it until October earliest. Even then, I will see how the situation is before considering another booster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Where can we get them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twix38 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Agree with the gap 3 months minimum and up to 6+ months between vaccines that's why I had my 2nd booster last week as previous booster in November 2021. Over 6 months ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 21 hours ago, steven100 said: geeeze ..... I'm not a bloody pin cushion ! My last, the booster (#3), bloody hurt, and was sore for a long time after, maybe over a month. I felt it had been applied too deep and gone beyond the muscle. There and then, I thought, that's it, if 3 ain't enough, it is a waste of time! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentSmith Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 On 6/28/2022 at 5:03 AM, twix38 said: I just had Moderna as my 4th - 2nd booster. Astra Zenica twice then pfizer last Nov and Moderna a week ago. However, I've been in uk past 2 1/2 years and flying to thailand in a weeks time. Hopefully well protected. Not had covid so far. Feel I'm bound to catch it on plane or in Thailand but reassured I'm as protected as possible from hospitalization, long covid or death. Vaccination wise at least, I'm sure glad I've been in UK. Good NHS early and free roll out programme. Not to cause any alarm but recent reports say vaccination doesn't protect much against long covid. Vaccinated people don't get sick from covid but can still get long covid symptoms. But don't take my word for it. I'm sure you can find some info about it yourself. Will be interesting to know what long covid really is. They tend to call it post covid now. Research is probably gonna take years though. I wouldn't count on new treatments anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 On 6/28/2022 at 5:35 AM, GeorgeCross said: have covid at the moment, so does my wife. i'd say there is more covid around now than there was at the "peak". back then i'd struggle to name a single person who'd had it. that we know of right now.. cleaners whole family have it, 2 of wifes friends, 2 build crews we know, pool guys had it last week, list goes on and on. thing is no-one is bothering to report it anymore unless getting really sick so job done, low numbers, tourism back on track. going to be interesting when those flights start returning to china! China aren't coming here soon. Yes. You're right about more/ as many people having it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 Where to get the 4th booster here in Pattaya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 On 6/27/2022 at 8:16 PM, snoop1130 said: A senior Thai doctor has warned people not to underestimate the threat posed by the COVID-19 Omicron BA.4 and BA.5 sub-variants and has recommended additional booster shots, claiming that they can help ease serious consequences of infection by the mutated virus. But not stop it as Anutin found out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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