Today i read in the British news that the church cannot define a woman,

Well they should have asked the vast majority of the population.

My mum was one ,she had a womb and had babies,was born with a vagina and grew boobs naturaly.

See simple.

Oimate,why are you sad,did you not have a mum?

Well the newest associate justice to the United States Supreme court not define a woman as well.  So the Church of England is in good company.  What has the world come to?  Yes, as an American "we started this nonsense".  

We live in a world where stupidity reigns supreme

 

Surely the easy way to know is to count the ribs.

 

1 hour ago, sqwakvfr said:

Yes, as an American "we started this nonsense". 

Nope. Many cultures have had more than 2 genders - long before 'murica came into existance.

1 hour ago, bert bloggs said:

My mum was one ,she had a womb and had babies,was born with a vagina

I didn't think that you were allowed to use swear words on these forums ?

1 minute ago, mikebike said:

Nope. Many cultures have had more than 2 genders - long before 'murica came into existance.

Which cultures and how many genders?  Also, which genders can get pregnant and give birth?  I do not recall hearing about this "gender" fluidity concept until about a year ago.  The first time I heard about this nonsense was a confirmation hearing for a Biden administration nominee(I think it was for the Department of Health?) 

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I didn't think that you were allowed to use swear words on these forums ?

Babies is not a swear word, just a hindrance.

 

1 hour ago, sqwakvfr said:

Well the newest associate justice to the United States Supreme court not define a woman as well.  So the Church of England is in good company.  What has the world come to?  Yes, as an American "we started this nonsense".  

You win, you got the USA comparison in first and you were quick as well 

My first experience with this issue that should not be a issue was in 1998.  As a police officer in Los Angeles I dealt with all kinds of people.  I arrested a suspect for shoplifting from a Victoria's Secret.  The suspect was about 6 feet, about 200 lbs, unshaven, wearing a wig, a tight blouse and a tight skirt.  He claimed to be a woman.  I asked him a question that I could not ask now:  Do you have penis?.  He replied yes but "I am a woman".  He demanded a female police officer.  A female officer was not available.  I took custody of this suspect and transported him to the Male side of the Jail.  A male custody officer conducted a thorough search of the suspect and he was placed in a cell with other male suspects.  This was 24 years ago.  Cross dressers in Los Angeles was not uncommon and they were treated based upon on their gender and the  gender they claimed bot be..  

 

If I had done the same thing now I would have been fired.  i am so glad that I am retired. 

 

As Louis Armstrong said "Oh what a wonderful world".  

 

 

 

 

I couldnt care less if a man wants to dress like a woman and even have surgery same for a woman who wants to be a man,but you cant change nature ,born a man/ woman die the same.

12 hours ago, mikebike said:

Nope. Many cultures have had more than 2 genders - long before 'murica came into existance.

I'm fine with more than two genders.  I'm not ok with people insisting that there are only two genders, male and female, but that people can choose either of the two regardless of genitalia.

 

Men who identify as women and women who identify as men should accept the trans-woman and trans-man labels.  And large athletic men who transition in their twenties should not be allowed to play on a women's rugby team.

According to the Gospels, Jesus underwent transfiguration on a mountain. 

On 7/11/2022 at 1:45 PM, sqwakvfr said:

Well the newest associate justice to the United States Supreme court not define a woman as well.  So the Church of England is in good company.  What has the world come to?  Yes, as an American "we started this nonsense".  

If the world's stupidest politician had asked her how to make a chocolate cake would you still criticize her for not answering the question?

 

Is there a problem with people not identifying as precisely male or female?

 

 

Political correctness has kneecapped common sense…

 

In 200 years or 20,000 years time our skeletons will only be identified as male or female…  

 

Biologists and anthropologist’s will not be able to identify our pronouns or what we thought we are, our bones will tell the facts.

38 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Political correctness has kneecapped common sense…

 

In 200 years or 20,000 years time our skeletons will only be identified as male or female…  

 

Biologists and anthropologist’s will not be able to identify our pronouns or what we thought we are, our bones will tell the facts.

Totally wrong. Genetic tests can show aberrations from the norm now, they aren't going to forget how in 20,000 years. They already know.

 

A small but significant portion of the population does not fit into the male-female
binary sex categorization. These individuals are usually referred to as “intersex.”
• One category of intersex conditions arises when individuals have an atypical
number of sex chromosomes. These individuals can exhibit a wide range of
physical, cognitive and reproductive characteristics.

 

http://pged.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/InfoBrief-SexGenderGenetics.pdf

8 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Totally wrong. Genetic tests can show aberrations from the norm now, they aren't going to forget how in 20,000 years. They already know.

 

A small but significant portion of the population does not fit into the male-female
binary sex categorization. These individuals are usually referred to as “intersex.”
• One category of intersex conditions arises when individuals have an atypical
number of sex chromosomes. These individuals can exhibit a wide range of
physical, cognitive and reproductive characteristics.

 

http://pged.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/InfoBrief-SexGenderGenetics.pdf

Yes we all know that very very rarely someone is born with an abnormality,it happens also sometimes people are born as midgets( is that pc? ) or with no leges or arms or deformed etc etc it doesnt make it normal ,

Normal is men and women no matter how loud the lgbtfyxdij on and on community shout.

1 hour ago, bert bloggs said:

Yes we all know that very very rarely someone is born with an abnormality,it happens also sometimes people are born as midgets( is that pc? ) or with no leges or arms or deformed etc etc it doesnt make it normal ,

Normal is men and women no matter how loud the lgbtfyxdij on and on community shout.

Genetic diversity is so common that there is no "normal". It doesn't need to be a visible problem like missing arms and legs. You post screams lack of research on a topic you feel you are qualified to comment on.

11 hours ago, ozimoron said:

If the world's stupidest politician had asked her how to make a chocolate cake would you still criticize her for not answering the question?

 

Is there a problem with people not identifying as precisely male or female?

 

 

Yes.  Jackson said “I am not a biologist”.  The politician in question, Senator Blackburn, asked a simple question to someone who was under going confirmation to the highest court in the nation and could not answer this simple question?  Whether Senator Blackburn is the “stupidest politician” is up to debate because the list for that title is long and varied but “Can you define a woman?”.  She could have just said “I am a woman”.  This could have shut down Blackburn.  

1 minute ago, sqwakvfr said:

Yes.  Jackson said “I am not a biologist”.  The politician in question, Senator Blackburn, asked a simple question to someone who was under going confirmation to the highest court in the nation and could not answer this simple question?  Whether Senator Blackburn is the “stupidest politician” is up to debate because the list for that title is long and varied but “Can you define a woman?”.  She could have just said “I am a woman”.  This could have shut down Blackburn.  

The question was politically loaded and just red meat for the base. She displayed educated aplomb in deflecting it. Should any judgement require a medical opinion or further facts about sexuality or gender I'm sure she will ask for it as appropriate. I'm not so sure about others who follow a religious agenda and lie to do so. Jackson simply avoided the question, she didn't lie in response to it. Should anyone who lied before the senate be disqualified if refusal to answer a question disqualifies?

 

 

Shouldn't the title read "The Church (ANY) does not care what a woman is"

 

Has always been and will be a 2nd class gender in the eyes of GOD, any GOD.

From my research IMHO

2 hours ago, ozimoron said:

The question was politically loaded and just red meat for the base. She displayed educated aplomb in deflecting it. Should any judgement require a medical opinion or further facts about sexuality or gender I'm sure she will ask for it as appropriate. I'm not so sure about others who follow a religious agenda and lie to do so. Jackson simply avoided the question, she didn't lie in response to it. Should anyone who lied before the senate be disqualified if refusal to answer a question disqualifies?

 

 

It was a simple question.  What if the question had been “can you define what a male/man is?”  Also, I went to a public university and barely graduated with a 2.9 GPA so pardon my ignorance but what exactly does “educated aplomb” mean?  Also, I am not a religious person(too many years working the streets of Los Angeles) so I don’t have religious or political agenda(did not vote for Trump, Clinton or Biden).  I guess I am agnostic in terms of religion and politics.  Also, who lied to the Senate?

1 hour ago, sqwakvfr said:

It was a simple question.  What if the question had been “can you define what a male/man is?”  Also, I went to a public university and barely graduated with a 2.9 GPA so pardon my ignorance but what exactly does “educated aplomb” mean?  Also, I am not a religious person(too many years working the streets of Los Angeles) so I don’t have religious or political agenda(did not vote for Trump, Clinton or Biden).  I guess I am agnostic in terms of religion and politics.  Also, who lied to the Senate?

Her job is a judge, nothing else. Kavanaugh and Barrett lied to the senate. I have previously posted the evidence yesterday.

So, any guesses as to how the wedding vows will go....?

 

 

 

 

4 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Genetic diversity is so common that there is no "normal"

My dog is normal ....

 

There must be something wrong with her then, I guess.

1 hour ago, sqwakvfr said:

It was a simple question.  What if the question had been “can you define what a male/man is?”  

Easy for me;

Male has penis

Female does not

They can call themselves what ever they want.  Only a female/woman, until yet another definition is change, is able to give birth to an offspring.   Only a male/man, can fertilize (naturally) said egg of a female/woman.   Until that changes ...................

 

Until someone shows me a chromosome test, not that I care, but I'm not falling for the "I'm trapped in wrong body" BS.  Maybe in your mind, but probably not in your biology.

 

Just tell me what your name is, but don't expect me to use a (newly defined) pronoun that I was taught means something else, and literally impossible to use in a sentence or conversation.

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From the mouth of babes.....

 

 

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

Her job is a judge, nothing else. Kavanaugh and Barrett lied to the senate. I have previously posted the evidence yesterday.

Evidence?  Ok.  So both Kavaaugh and Barrett both testified under oath they will never overturn Roe V. Wade?  Great then both should be removed from the Supreme Court and indicted for Perjury?

2 hours ago, sqwakvfr said:

Evidence?  Ok.  So both Kavaaugh and Barrett both testified under oath they will never overturn Roe V. Wade?  Great then both should be removed from the Supreme Court and indicted for Perjury?

Impeached from the court and indicted for perjury. I told you already I had posted a link to evidence. If you ever read links outside your echo chamber you might already know,