Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

You mean the one that set the UK on course from ‘sick man of Europe’ to booming economy.

 

 

There is nothing to show that the UK could not have 'boomed' better alone. EU growth is fading fast now.

Just now, nauseus said:

There is nothing to show that the UK could not have 'boomed' better alone. EU growth is fading fast now.

Decades of decline dramatically reversed.

 

That’s the evidence we have.

 

You can imagine other scenarios but that’s what they are, figments of your imagination.

59 minutes ago, Loiner said:

It was made further back in this very thread. 
The Spanish perform the same border checks infinitely more efficiently than the French. The Spanish have more border guards and better systems than the French and weren’t trying to harass British travellers last weekend. 

Are people travelling to Spain via ferry now? Don't you get embarrassed putting your thoughts in writing?

You might note that the Eurostar doesn't have the same issue. French officials there don't seem to have an issue with the British. Just at Dover it seems, that six Frenchmen being late for work can bring the whole county to a standstill.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/dover-folkestone-queues-cross-channel-tory-crisis-of-intelligence/

Nothing to do with Brexit? Would it have happened if not for Brexit?

 

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Decades of decline dramatically reversed.

 

That’s the evidence we have.

 

You can imagine other scenarios but that’s what they are, figments of your imagination.

Just imagine if the Socialist were in charge, blimey.

We've even got Labour MP's on strike picket lines getting the sack..What a mess..................????

3 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

The reasons for the delay is because staffing levels/problems at the French passport control , there wasn't enough French immigration  people checking Covid documents and hence there was a delays .

   Nothing to do with Brexit

The UK is on the list of "green" countries for which no Covid checks are carried out by the French, so that is definitely not a factor.

 

French government Covid information

 

Brexit is the only reason that there is a need for passport controls and so it clearly has everything to do with Brexit.

Just now, GroveHillWanderer said:

The UK is on the list of "green" countries for which no Covid checks are carried out by the French, so that is definitely not a factor.

 

French government Covid information

 

Brexit is the only reason that there is a need for passport controls and so it clearly has everything to do with Brexit.

What about ham sandwich's...................????

16 minutes ago, nauseus said:

There is nothing to show that the UK could not have 'boomed' better alone. EU growth is fading fast now.

UK economy to have slowest growth among G7 next year, says IMF

https://gulfnews.com/business/uk-economy-to-have-slowest-growth-among-g7-next-year-says-imf-1.89523325#:~:text=Britain will have the slowest growth among major,squeeze household spending%2C the International Monetary Fund said.

IMF: UK set for slowest growth of G7 countries in 2023

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-62299490

1 minute ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

The UK is on the list of "green" countries for which no Covid checks are carried out by the French, so that is definitely not a factor.

 

French government Covid information

 

Brexit is the only reason that there is a need for passport controls and so it clearly has everything to do with Brexit.

That is not true , you have posted false information  , here are the requirements for Brits going to France 

 

If you’re fully vaccinated

From 31 March 2022, fully vaccinated travellers from the UK aged 12 and over must provide proof of vaccination.

 

 

If you’re not fully vaccinated

From 31 March 2022, travellers from the UK aged 12 years and over who are not fully vaccinated need to provide:

• A negative PCR test result, taken within 72 hours or an antigen test result, taken within 48 hours pre-departure.

 

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/france

Just now, Mavideol said:

UK economy to have slowest growth among G7 next year, says IMF

https://gulfnews.com/business/uk-economy-to-have-slowest-growth-among-g7-next-year-says-imf-1.89523325#:~:text=Britain will have the slowest growth among major,squeeze household spending%2C the International Monetary Fund said.

IMF: UK set for slowest growth of G7 countries in 2023

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-62299490

Really , can you not understand ?

G7 is not the E.U .

USA and Canada and Japan are G7 member Countries and they are not in Europe and therefore Brexit and G7 are two separate things and not related 

22 minutes ago, Bruno123 said:

Are people travelling to Spain via ferry now? Don't you get embarrassed putting your thoughts in writing?

Trains or boats or planes, it makes no difference. Same passport checks. I would be embarrassed if I was a French border officer. 

 

24 minutes ago, Bruno123 said:

Just at Dover it seems, that six Frenchmen being late for work can bring the whole county to a standstill.

Not the whole country, but it certainly brought Dover and the motorway to a standstill.  And a lot of Remainers exaggerated complaints about it. 
Just six Frenchmen who forgot to turn up to work? Some here are still trying to tell us it was all due to Brexit. 

2 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Trains or boats or planes, it makes no difference. Same passport checks. I would be embarrassed if I was a French border officer. 

 

Not the whole country, but it certainly brought Dover and the motorway to a standstill.  And a lot of Remainers exaggerated complaints about it. 
Just six Frenchmen who forgot to turn up to work? Some here are still trying to tell us it was all due to Brexit. 

these are called Brexit appetizers.... it's just a start, more to come  555

18 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

That is not true , you have posted false information  , here are the requirements for Brits going to France 

 

If you’re fully vaccinated

From 31 March 2022, fully vaccinated travellers from the UK aged 12 and over must provide proof of vaccination.

 

 

If you’re not fully vaccinated

From 31 March 2022, travellers from the UK aged 12 years and over who are not fully vaccinated need to provide:

• A negative PCR test result, taken within 72 hours or an antigen test result, taken within 48 hours pre-departure.

 

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/france

The pleasures of holding third nation status.

 

A direct result of Brexit.

 

 

3 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Trains or boats or planes, it makes no difference. Same passport checks. I would be embarrassed if I was a French border officer. 

 

Not the whole country, but it certainly brought Dover and the motorway to a standstill.  And a lot of Remainers exaggerated complaints about it. 
Just six Frenchmen who forgot to turn up to work? Some here are still trying to tell us it was all due to Brexit. 

What you need to be embarrassed about is voting to end freedom of movement and then moaning when your freedom of movement is removed.

31 minutes ago, Bruno123 said:

Are people travelling to Spain via ferry now? Don't you get embarrassed putting your thoughts in writing?

You might note that the Eurostar doesn't have the same issue. French officials there don't seem to have an issue with the British.

Eurostar does actually have the same issues though

 

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The pleasures of holding third nation status.

 

A direct result of Brexit.

 

 

Yes, that is what we wanted and that is why we voted to leave the E.U.

We voted for Brexit for the reason that people couldn't just cross the English channel without having visas when required or having their passports checked .

   Yes, those rules will also apply to Brits going in the other direction to France

  

3 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Yes, that is what we wanted and that is why we voted to leave the E.U.

We voted for Brexit for the reason that people couldn't just cross the English channel without having visas when required or having their passports checked .

   Yes, those rules will also apply to Brits going in the other direction to France

  

Then stop whinging and lap it up.

 

Lovely Jubly.

 

 

36 minutes ago, transam said:

What about ham sandwich's...................????

Who on earth would take a ham sandwich with them to France.

 

I will have gone off before they clear the queues at Dover.

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Then stop whinging and lap it up.

 

Lovely Jubly.

 

 

Yes, now that everything is back to normal at Dover and the French have got their finger out and are now doing their jobs , we can get back to enjoying U.K's independence  from the E.U .The damage this has caused in  peoples confidence in crossing the channel to France for a holiday, should benefit the U.Ks holiday industry .

  I just hope that there's  still some hotel vacancies in Cornwall to accommodate everyone 

19 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

What you need to be embarrassed about is voting to end freedom of movement and then moaning when your freedom of movement is removed.

My freedom is not restricted. So long as it restricts cheap EU Labour continuing to flood the UK it is doing its job. 
 

As for Dover, I may have mentioned earlier that I don’t care. 

3 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Yes, now that everything is back to normal at Dover and the French have got their finger out and are now doing their jobs , we can get back to enjoying U.K's independence  from the E.U .The damage this has caused in  peoples confidence in crossing the channel to France for a holiday, should benefit the U.Ks holiday industry .

  I just hope that there's  still some hotel vacancies in Cornwall to accommodate everyone 

Meanwhile the British economy is paying the price for the far more costly delays to freight.

….

 

’should’, ‘hope’.

22 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Trains or boats or planes, it makes no difference. Same passport checks. I would be embarrassed if I was a French border officer. 

 

Not the whole country, but it certainly brought Dover and the motorway to a standstill.  And a lot of Remainers exaggerated complaints about it. 
Just six Frenchmen who forgot to turn up to work? Some here are still trying to tell us it was all due to Brexit. 

It clearly does make a difference. Eurostar fine. Flying fine. 

 

I wrote county. 

 

Yes, the claim is that there were too few booths manned initially. So six Frenchmen?

 

I haven't actually read anything about what was happening at Dover. It only came to my notice via this thread.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Meanwhile the British economy is paying the price for the far more costly delays to freight.

….

 

’should’, ‘hope’.

That is something that you can enjoy and celebrate 

1 minute ago, Loiner said:

My freedom is not restricted. So long as it restricts cheap EU Labour continuing to flood the UK it is doing its job. 
 

As for Dover, I may have mentioned earlier that I don’t care. 

It’s causing problems for recruiting the highly skilled workers the UK economy desperately needs, not least of all medical professionals for the foundering NHS.

 

But your alright Jack.

18 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Yes, that is what we wanted and that is why we voted to leave the E.U.

We voted for Brexit for the reason that people couldn't just cross the English channel without having visas when required or having their passports checked .

   Yes, those rules will also apply to Brits going in the other direction to France

  

Understandable.

Was that the only reason? 

26 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

these are called Brexit appetizers.... it's just a start, more to come  555

Make you mind up. Was it the Frenchmen who forgot to go to work, or do you now think it was Brexit just for that particular weekend but none of the other days. 

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

That is something that you can enjoy and celebrate 

Why on earth would I celebrate businesses struggling and people suffering, I never once supported the root cause of these problems?

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s causing problems for recruiting the highly skilled workers the UK economy desperately needs, not least of all medical professionals for the foundering NHS.

 

But your alright Jack.

You are wrong again. Highly skilled workers can get a visa, as can highly skilled Brits for the EU. The No skilled job stealing benefit scroungers are hopefully having problems. 

29 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Eurostar does actually have the same issues though

 

 

 

 

Just read about it: https://www.euronews.com/travel/2022/07/25/brexit-eurostar-cancellations-and-dover-delays-whats-behind-the-french-and-uk-travel-chaos

 

Do you think those things are connected? "Line closure between Paris and Lille".

1 minute ago, Loiner said:

You are wrong again. Highly skilled workers can get a visa, as can highly skilled Brits for the EU. The No skilled job stealing benefit scroungers are hopefully having problems. 

Or they can go elsewhere in Europe without any restrictions at all.

17 minutes ago, Bruno123 said:

 

I haven't actually read anything about what was happening at Dover. It only came to my notice via this thread.

Maybe LeMonde was too embarrassed to report it?