Nearly one in three Americans say it may soon be necessary to take up arms against the government

[Doctor Tom]

3 minutes ago, Excel said:

What sad reflection though of what the US has become for whatever reason.

Yes, very true.  I lived in the US for a few years and I found them  extraordinarily friendly, welcoming and very open people.  But of course, I wasn't living among the lunatics and red necks that fill many parts of that great country. 

Edited July 26, 2022 by Doctor Tom

[Excel]

Just now, Doctor Tom said:

Yes, very true.  I lived in the US for a few years and I found them  extraordinarily friendly, welcoming and very open people.  But of course, I wasn't living among the lunatics and red necks that fill many parts of that great country. 

I visited the states very  many times during my career so generally agree with you. From my experience whist holidaying there in the early 80's I simply loved the friendliness and laid back lifestyle of the folks living in the Keys, I wonder if that has now changed ?

[bendejo]

12 hours ago, baboon said:

A genuine question to American posters: If any state(s) decided they had had enough of the Union, could they secede from the United States? Realistically, that is?

Keep an eye on Idaho, there has been secession buzz out of there for decades.  Also there is an idea floating about for the State of Idaho to expand into a neighboring blue state, or two. 

I have the impression they (whatever part of the Federal gov't handles this sort of thing) had not even been thinking about a such happening in modern times, not until 1/6.  Now of course I would expect these matters are getting attention.

 

 

[JonnyF]

Whilst I cannot support such statements, I have to say that if Biden and the Progressives were 'leading' (ruining) my country I'd probably be pretty angry as well.

 

The fact that such an incompetent and senile man from such a disgraceful family can be voted into such a position of power is mind blowing.

[Eric Loh]

9 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Whilst I cannot support such statements, I have to say that if Biden and the Progressives were 'leading' (ruining) my country I'd probably be pretty angry as well.

 

The fact that such an incompetent and senile man from such a disgraceful family can be voted into such a position of power is mind blowing.

Your feelings noted but isn't progressive better than fascism? 

[Bkk Brian]

36 minutes ago, BangkokHank said:

Voting no longer has any meaning - now that the Democrats have realized that they can get away with stealing elections. You approve of the theft because the party you favor "won" the election this time. But what happens next time, if the other part steals the election? Will you still be in favor of rigged elections then? When trust in the election system is gone, the whole concept of democracy breaks down. And I'd say we're already at that point.

willful ignorance ???? time for a reality check. 

[wasabi]

Fake news. 99 out of 100 are too lazy to look up from their phone to lift anything other than a potato chip bag. And yes I am American.

Edited July 26, 2022 by wasabi

[George Aylesham]

13 hours ago, Credo said:

.....maybe just best to do it at the ballot box.  

 

If you allowed to and your electoral region hasn't been gerrymandered

[richard_smith237]

A poll of 1000 republican NRA members by any chance…..???

 

From one of these 280 nut jobs…. A shopping mall mass shooting coming your way soon… 

[ozimoron]

2 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Not entirely correct. A state CAN secede if a majority of the remaining states agree. Will that ever happen? I highly doubt it.

The supreme court ruled it unconstitutional, there would need to be an amendment to the constitution.

[rudi49jr]

I think that headline should read: “One in three Americans are seriously deranged”. Land of the gun nuts, home of the cuckoos.

[Jaybott]

13 hours ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

as a Yank i agree nearly 1 in 3 Americans are idiots--We call them MAGA.....

 

 

Disagree.  Most call them the Biden administration.

[John Drake]

3 hours ago, Credo said:

Home Owners Association -- a group that controls everything you can do with your home.  They decide what color you can paint it, they decide if you can add on to your home.  They decide anything and everything having to do with your home.  They decide how many pets you can have, how big your dog can be (my area is no bigger than 25 pounds), etc.

 

They are a group of Karens on steroids.

And you pay them for those privileges. 

[John Drake]

I just want my social security check and retirement annuity. Other than that, I don't care what they do.

[JonnyF]

45 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Your feelings noted but isn't progressive better than fascism? 

You make it sound like you have to choose one or another.

 

There is some centre ground, you know? But I guess it's easier to label anyone who doesn't agree with your Progressive mindset a Fascist... Sad. 

[rudi49jr]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

from such a disgraceful family can be voted into such a position of power is mind blowing

While Trump and his offspring are a paradigm of honesty, selflessness and generosity, right?

[ozimoron]

6 hours ago, Patrick3066 said:

It could happen as the Democratic left has gone full blown in Socialist ideology’s ; they have open the Southern border with little intervention into the 100,000 illegal foreigners coming EACH MONTH. They have ceased domestic oil production doubling our fuel prices and are openly attacking the Second Amendment and supporting Woke <deleted>. There are no boundaries now. 

Got a link to this false claim? Are you quoting encounters or individuals?

[JonnyF]

Just now, rudi49jr said:

While Trump and his offspring are a paradigm of honesty, selflessness and generosity, right?

This thread is about the government, and as far as I am aware Trump is not in government.

 

But seeing as you mentioned it, compared to Hunter Biden? Yes, I'd say they look pretty good by comparison. But who wouldn't? That's a pretty low bar the Biden's have set.

[ozimoron]

Just now, JonnyF said:

This thread is about the government, and as far as I am aware Trump is not in government.

 

But seeing as you mentioned it, compared to Hunter Biden? Yes, I'd say they look pretty good by comparison. But who wouldn't? That's a pretty low bar the Biden's have set.

Trump is the main inciter of rebellion against the government. and the only president to ever do so. The post is on topic.

[thaibook]

14 hours ago, baboon said:

A genuine question to American posters: If any state(s) decided they had had enough of the Union, could they secede from the United States? Realistically, that is?

some states tried it in the past and were coerced back into the union.  Seceeding unilaterally is not allowed.  It is now a federation of states rather than a confederation.

 

Furthermore, while each state has its own national guard with the same weaponry as national forces theoretically to defend itself including against the Federal government the national guards are now integrated into the federal military command structure and governors would find it very difficult to direct their forces independently.

[thaibook]

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Got a link to this false claim? Are you quoting encounters or individuals?

which part do you think is fake?  That Democrats are largely socialists or even extreme left wing and anti-capitalist?  That there is massi illegal immigration and that the government does not try to check it, actually providing free transport to move these people to states further north such as Pennsylvania?  That the government is trying hard to slow down and stop oil and gas exploration and production?  

[ozimoron]

Just now, thaibook said:

which part do you think is fake?  That Democrats are largely socialists or even extreme left wing and anti-capitalist?  That there is massi illegal immigration and that the government does not try to check it, actually providing free transport to move these people to states further north such as Pennsylvania?  That the government is trying hard to slow down and stop oil and gas exploration and production?  

You quoted a number, I asked for a link. The forum rules require that you provide one.

[hotchilli]

13 hours ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

as a Yank i agree nearly 1 in 3 Americans are idiots--We call them MAGA.....

 

 

I'll know it's really bad when Americans start heading south to Mexico.

[Rimmer]

A post citing an unapproved questionable source has been removed, also now a baiting troll post.

[Phoenix Rising]

3 hours ago, BangkokHank said:

What will that achieve - now that the Democrats have figured out that they can just steal the elections?

If the Dems are clever enough to steal the election from right under millions of GOP noses without leaving a shred of evidence you don't stand a chance, do you.

 

PS. I urge you to check in with your mental health care professional ASAP.

Edited July 26, 2022 by Phoenix Rising

[Eric Loh]

39 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

You make it sound like you have to choose one or another.

 

There is some centre ground, you know? But I guess it's easier to label anyone who doesn't agree with your Progressive mindset a Fascist... Sad. 

Trump’s central ground likely to be oligarchy. Still worse than progressive. Think about it. He is anti-immigrant and anti-black policies, refused to denounce his most extreme and violent supporters from the neo-Nazis and white nationalists in Charlottesville to the Proud Boys. He also planning to gut the DOJ with his loyalists to go after his enemies and not his friends. You support those kind of egregious actions. 
 

[Gandtee]

13 hours ago, baboon said:

Sorry, HOA?

I had to google it. Home owners association?

[Gandtee]

Any excuse to give those automatic weapons and airing.????

[Mac Mickmanus]

8 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Trump’s central ground likely to be oligarchy. Still worse than progressive. Think about it. He is anti-immigrant and anti-black policies, refused to denounce his most extreme and violent supporters from the neo-Nazis and white nationalists in Charlottesville to the Proud Boys. He also planning to gut the DOJ with his loyalists to go after his enemies and not his friends. You support those kind of egregious actions. 
 

Untrue, incorrect and also off topic 

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Untrue, incorrect and also off topic 

Those who claim it may soon be necessary are overwhelmingly Trump supporters.