Nearly one in three Americans say it may soon be necessary to take up arms against the government

[stevenl]

26 minutes ago, Credo said:

Since you are posting nonsense, I'll give you a reason.  It's because Democrats work for a living and Republicans don't and have time to stand in line at polling stations.  

 

But when you look more closely, take a look at the number of polling stations in Republican districts and then compare it to Democratic areas and areas with a high minority population.   

 

And then factor in a pandemic which according to republicans didn't exist so they could go out and vote and a president who recommended to vote in person while his opponent recommended postal voting.

Edited July 28, 2022 by stevenl

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, BangkokHank said:

"Everyone knew" that more Democrats than Republicans would vote using absentee ballots, because the media had been brainwashing people into believing that for weeks before the election. The media had been preparing the simple-minded people for that because they KNEW that the Democrats were planning to steal the election.

 

Can you give me any plausible reason why people from one party would be more likely than the people from another to vote using absentee ballots? If they had said that, for example, older people are more likely to vote via absentee ballots because they have trouble getting to the polling stations, that would have been plausible. But to suggest that voters for one entire party are more likely to vote by the way that just happens to be easier to cheat with is patently ridiculous. So please, don't try your "everyone knew" with me. You just make yourself look silly.

"Can you give me any plausible reason why people from one party would be more likely than the people from another to vote using absentee ballots?"

 

Because Trump claimed, repeatedly and without any proof, that voting by mail is subject to fraud.  He objected to states making it easier to vote by mail during the pandemic, but not because of fraud.  https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/08/trump-slams-mail-in-voting-says-it-doesnt-work-out-well-for-republicans.html

 

That discouraged Republicans from voting by mail.  Democrats, who were taking the pandemic much more seriously than Republicans, were more likely to vote by mail to avoid crowded polling stations and lines to vote.  In Pennsylvania almost three times as many Democrats voted by mail as Republicans.  https://news.yahoo.com/democrats-voted-republicans-mail-nearly-021800530.html

[bradiston]

In the Brexit vote in the UK, by 10pm on polling day with the ballots closed, it looked like the anti brexit voters had won the day. Come the actual results, turned out the opposite way. The interesting point being, I don't recall any shouts of fraud. It was a bitter blow for the anti Brexiteers, but they took it on the chin, something Trump seems incapable of doing .

[BangkokHank]

1 hour ago, Credo said:

Since you are posting nonsense, I'll give you a reason.  It's because Democrats work for a living and Republicans don't and have time to stand in line at polling stations.    

 

Unless you can provide some credible evidence to support your ridiculous claim that Democrats work for a living and Republicans don't, then, according to the rules of this forum, it should be removed as misinformation. Or, as far as I'm concerned, it can be left up for its comedic value. I actually laughed out loud when I read it.

[BangkokHank]

21 minutes ago, heybruce said:

"Can you give me any plausible reason why people from one party would be more likely than the people from another to vote using absentee ballots?"

 

Because Trump claimed, repeatedly and without any proof, that voting by mail is subject to fraud.  He objected to states making it easier to vote by mail during the pandemic, but not because of fraud.  https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/08/trump-slams-mail-in-voting-says-it-doesnt-work-out-well-for-republicans.html

 

Exactly. Voting by mail doesn't work out well for Republicans - because Democrats use it to cheat.

[jvs]

4 minutes ago, BangkokHank said:

Exactly. Voting by mail doesn't work out well for Republicans - because Democrats use it to cheat.

You keep going on about this,do you have any proof?

Any?

No court has found any proof,maybe they should hire you to help out?

Or you just are to ignorant to accept the truth,or maybe you just are not smart enough?

Your guy lost big time,get over it!

I hope he will have to pay dearly for the things he did,maybe soon you can visit your

hero in jail.

[Bkk Brian]

12 minutes ago, BangkokHank said:

Unless you can provide some credible evidence to support your ridiculous claim that Democrats work for a living and Republicans don't, then, according to the rules of this forum, it should be removed as misinformation. Or, as far as I'm concerned, it can be left up for its comedic value. I actually laughed out loud when I read it.

He was replying in kind to this nonsense post you made:

 

"The media had been preparing the simple-minded people for that because they KNEW that the Democrats were planning to steal the election."

 

Do you have a link to that one?

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, BangkokHank said:

Exactly. Voting by mail doesn't work out well for Republicans - because Democrats use it to cheat.

There is no evidence of cheating on a scale that would come close to changing the election results.  The trivial amount of cheating by mail uncovered seemed to be done more by Republicans than Democrats.  https://www.foxnews.com/us/fourth-florida-the-villages-resident-accused-of-voter-fraud

 

Of course Republicans serious about committing election fraud usually do so in more effective ways:  https://news.yahoo.com/3-charged-2020-florida-ghost-153920154.html

 

Trump didn't object to mail-in voting in Florida after it was explained to him that a lot of well-off retirees, who tend to vote Republican, do so by mail in Florida.  Some do so more than once, as indicated above.

Edited July 28, 2022 by heybruce

[rudi49jr]

1 hour ago, BangkokHank said:

Exactly. Voting by mail doesn't work out well for Republicans - because Democrats use it to cheat.

Please share your wisdom with us and explain how the Democrats cheated, I would really like to know. And can you use small words, so us simple folk can understand it? But more importantly, I would like to see from you at least one link to a credible news source to substantiate the claims you made here in this thread about the election being stolen and Democrats cheating. Mind you, I didn’t make that up: those are the rules on this forum. Which you have totally ignored.

[ozimoron]

4 hours ago, BangkokHank said:

"Everyone knew" that more Democrats than Republicans would vote using absentee ballots, because the media had been brainwashing people into believing that for weeks before the election. The media had been preparing the simple-minded people for that because they KNEW that the Democrats were planning to steal the election.

 

Can you give me any plausible reason why people from one party would be more likely than the people from another to vote using absentee ballots? If they had said that, for example, older people are more likely to vote via absentee ballots because they have trouble getting to the polling stations, that would have been plausible. But to suggest that voters for one entire party are more likely to vote by the way that just happens to be easier to cheat with is patently ridiculous. So please, don't try your "everyone knew" with me. You just make yourself look silly.

I'll tell you why. It's also very obvious. It's historically ALWAYS been the case that Dems tend to vote more using mail in and drop boxes. This is why the GOP didn't want to count the mail in ballots and why they invented this stolen election theory surrounding mail in votes. They knew.

There is not a US polittician alive who doesn't know Dems use mail in voting more than Republicans for a variety of reasons. It is a known historical fact with data readily available to check. It's also why GOP led states have been removing drop boxes.

Edited July 28, 2022 by ozimoron

[rudi49jr]

What all those Trumpers don’t seem to understand is that this would be the story of the century, if the Dems really had stolen the elections. Like Woodward and Bernstein, this would be Pulitzer prize material, multi million dollar book deals, and so on, and so forth. Whoever would discover that this had been the case would be a very rich man/woman indeed.
So I’m sure that many reporters (as well as law enforcement agencies) have looked at it long and hard, and if there had been any shred of evidence it would have been reported by now. But nothing has come up so far. Gee, I wonder why that is.

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, rudi49jr said:

What all those Trumpers don’t seem to understand is that this would be the story of the century, if the Dems really had stolen the elections. Like Woodward and Bernstein, this would be Pulitzer prize material, multi million dollar book deals, and so on, and so forth. Whoever would discover that this had been the case would be a very rich man/woman indeed.
So I’m sure that many reporters (as well as law enforcement agencies) have looked at it long and hard, and if there had been any shred of evidence it would have been reported by now. But nothing has come up so far. Gee, I wonder why that is.

Biden is still POTUS ?

 

[rudi49jr]

38 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Biden is still POTUS ?

 

Yes. Shocking, isn’t it? And not impeached, not even once. 

[Mac Mickmanus]

12 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

Yes. Shocking, isn’t it? And not impeached, not even once. 

Did you not understand what I meant ?

Any potential whistle-blowers, wouldn't blow their whistle whilst hes still POTUS , they would wait until Donald gets his job back as POTUS

[stevenl]

4 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Did you not understand what I meant ?

Any potential whistle-blowers, wouldn't blow their whistle whilst hes still POTUS , they would wait until Donald gets his job back as POTUS

Are those the same whistleblowers that desperately tried to find anything that reeked of fraud when trump was president?

[JimmyJ]

19 hours ago, Lacessit said:

 

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night, only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." ( George Orwell )

"Quote Investigator:There is no substantive evidence that George Orwell who died in 1950 made this remark."

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/11/07/rough-men/

Edited July 28, 2022 by JimmyJ

[heybruce]

14 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Did you not understand what I meant ?

Any potential whistle-blowers, wouldn't blow their whistle whilst hes still POTUS , they would wait until Donald gets his job back as POTUS

Those potential whistle=blowers had more than two months between the election and Biden taking office; two months when Trump was still President.  Why didn't they speak up then?

[Mac Mickmanus]

6 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Are those the same whistleblowers that desperately tried to find anything that reeked of fraud when trump was president?

I am not too sure whether they are the same people or not 

[Mac Mickmanus]

7 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Those potential whistle=blowers had more than two months between the election and Biden taking office; two months when Trump was still President.  Why didn't they speak up then?

Because they didn't want Joe to lose his job 

[stevenl]

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I am not too sure whether they are the same people or not 

 

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Because they didn't want Joe to lose his job 

Do you seriously believe what you're writing here?

[ozimoron]

32 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Did you not understand what I meant ?

Any potential whistle-blowers, wouldn't blow their whistle whilst hes still POTUS , they would wait until Donald gets his job back as POTUS

Because nobody blew the whistle on Trump when he was President? What's the difference?

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

Because nobody blew the whistle on Trump when he was President? What's the difference?

Could we stick to the topic of the current Government ?

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Could we stick to the topic of the current Government ?

???? didn't you start this.....................

 

38 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Did you not understand what I meant ?

Any potential whistle-blowers, wouldn't blow their whistle whilst hes still POTUS , they would wait until Donald gets his job back as POTUS

 

[Lacessit]

26 minutes ago, JimmyJ said:

"Quote Investigator:There is no substantive evidence that George Orwell who died in 1950 made this remark."

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/11/07/rough-men/

An interesting read, I suppose it's similar to the question of whether Christopher Marlowe wrote most of Shakespeare's works. Or whether it was Arnold Palmer or Gary Player who said "The more I practice, the luckier I get."

Anything George Orwell said, or was purported to say, gets attention. Who has ever heard of Richard Grenier?

[2baht]

Yee haw, well damn it, Chuck, wherrrre's ma gun!

[nauseus]

On 7/26/2022 at 1:41 PM, rudi49jr said:

Most Americans have absolutely no clue what ‘socialist’ means, they have been brought up to fear it and see it as something evil. Just like the MAGA crowd calls everyone and everything they disagree with “the radical left”. 

That branding happens both ways. But Americans are becoming aware of their current 'radical' problem.

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, rudi49jr said:

Yes. Shocking, isn’t it? And not impeached, not even once. 

That he is still there is certainly amazing. Somehow I don't think impeachment will be necessary. 

[candide]

5 hours ago, BangkokHank said:

Exactly. Voting by mail doesn't work out well for Republicans - because Democrats use it to cheat.

Aren't you tired of posting the same debunked B.S. over and over? This is ridiculous!

[BangkokHank]

15 minutes ago, candide said:

Aren't you tired of posting the same debunked B.S. over and over? This is ridiculous!

Whenever I hear that something has been "debunked", that's a sure sign to me that it's true.

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Because they didn't want Joe to lose his job 

Trump's administration didn't want Biden to lose his job as President?  Please explain.