Nearly one in three Americans say it may soon be necessary to take up arms against the government

[rudi49jr]

2 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

it's nothing more than a headline, that draws the crazies out in the open. By crazies I'm referring to the very progressive left folks.

You and I have a very different definition of crazies…

[rudi49jr]

1 minute ago, Sparktrader said:

Hitler - killed 6m jews

Trump loves Israel killed nobody

 

Very odd to compare the two.

You forgot to mention that Trump loves Putin and Kim as well. Don’t know how many people they killed, but it must be quite a few. Putin is in the process of killing thousands of innocent Ukrainians as we speak. 

[Sparktrader]

1 minute ago, rudi49jr said:

You forgot to mention that Trump loves Putin and Kim as well. Don’t know how many people they killed, but it must be quite a few. Putin is in the process of killing thousands of innocent Ukrainians as we speak. 

No he doesnt. He insulted the NK leader. Tried to end the war though.

 

NK and SK still at war, just a cease fire.

[moogradod]

5 minutes ago, 1FinickyOne said:

..............

baseball fans like you know the game... a metaphor for life. 

That explains a lot. The only game I know even less of the rules is cricket of which I do not even have the faintest idea. As far as baseball is concerned my knowledge ends with what is shown in the Charlie Brown comics although I have watched games on Japanese TV. But seems to be popular in the US.

[Mac Mickmanus]

6 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

You forgot to mention that Trump loves Putin and Kim as well.

Trump tried to make peace with North Korea and to avert a war with them 

[EVENKEEL]

17 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

You and I have a very different definition of crazies…

My version are the men can have babies, crazy.

[rudi49jr]

11 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

No he doesnt. He insulted the NK leader. Tried to end the war though.

 

For someone who claims to have studied history you need to get your facts straight:

 

https://www.voanews.com/a/east-asia-pacific_trump-kim-love-letters-reveal-friendship-flattery/6195698.html

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60327044

[Sparktrader]

1 minute ago, rudi49jr said:

For someone who claims to have studied history you need to get your facts straight:

 

https://www.voanews.com/a/east-asia-pacific_trump-kim-love-letters-reveal-friendship-flattery/6195698.html

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60327044

Buddy, you cant end the war without dealing a deal. Only leader that got a meeting.

 

 

[rudi49jr]

4 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

My version are the men can have babies, crazy.

My version is (among other things) that it’s not okay to try to overturn the result of a fair election, and anyone who thinks otherwise is crazy. But that’s just me. 

[rudi49jr]

1 minute ago, Sparktrader said:

Buddy, you cant end the war without dealing a deal. Only leader that got a meeting.

 

 

I’m not your buddy, pal. And you need to get real, he only got a meeting because Kim knew very well he could Trump like a violin. Which he did. 

[Sparktrader]

4 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

I’m not your buddy, pal. And you need to get real, he only got a meeting because Kim knew very well he could Trump like a violin. Which he did. 

Kim achieved nothing.

[Sparktrader]

9 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

My version is (among other things) that it’s not okay to try to overturn the result of a fair election, and anyone who thinks otherwise is crazy. But that’s just me. 

Why does the US count votes at 3am?

[rudi49jr]

1 minute ago, Sparktrader said:

Why does the US count votes at 3am?

What does that have to do with anything? Who cares at what time they count the votes? Maybe to expedite the counting so that the results are in as soon as possible? 

[Sparktrader]

Just now, rudi49jr said:

What does that have to do with anything? Who cares at what time they count the votes? Maybe to expedite the counting so that the results are in as soon as possible? 

It relates to how legit is is. 

[rudi49jr]

3 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Kim achieved nothing.

He probably achieved more than you will ever know. And all Trump achieved was to make a total fool of himself. 

[Sparktrader]

Just now, rudi49jr said:

He probably achieved more than you will ever know. And all Trump achieved was to make a total fool of himself. 

List his achievements

[rudi49jr]

Just now, Sparktrader said:

List his achievements

Kim was buying time, so he could continue the development of his nuclear weaponry. And he blew smoke up Trump’s @ss, to butter him up. Which worked like a charm. 

[rudi49jr]

5 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

It relates to how legit is is. 

So votes that are counted at 3 AM are less legit than votes counted at 3 PM? 

[1FinickyOne]

32 minutes ago, moogradod said:

That explains a lot. The only game I know even less of the rules is cricket of which I do not even have the faintest idea. As far as baseball is concerned my knowledge ends with what is shown in the Charlie Brown comics although I have watched games on Japanese TV. But seems to be popular in the US.

Baseball has many real life applications... 

 

For me, it helps me sleep. It is very slow and can be boring. There is something about the game that knocks me right out...

 

And from Woody - a scene from Play it Again Sam

 

Diane Keaton: What were you thinking about while we were making love.

Woody: Willie Mays

DK: Oh, I guess that's why you kept yelling 'slide slide!' 

 

Since you are not a fan - him thinking abt baseball was a way to distract his mind to prevent premature.. well you know about that game... 

[1FinickyOne]

14 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Why does the US count votes at 3am?

There are a lot of people.. it takes time to count...

 

In OZ w/74 eligible voters, you just make a few phone calls to voters homes and it is done in 14 minutes... 

[Sparktrader]

24 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

So votes that are counted at 3 AM are less legit than votes counted at 3 PM? 

If no cameras or proper scrutiny.

[300sd]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

If you're referring to me I'm not American. If you're referring to Trump [as President], nobody took up arms, they waited and voted him out. By a lot. If you're referring to Biden, I have heard and read that sentiment often. Pretty much everybody who believes in the big lie says so.

 

The hate really started when Obama was elected. Black man in the White house and all that. White supremacist hate groups proliferated during Obama's tenure. Trump gave legitimacy and voice to the haters who had been largely kept under a lid previously. Again, I'll say I blame it on the southern baptist church who arose out of support for slavery and racial segregation. Nothing's changed except except the sponsors. Racial tensions inflamed in the south after the civil rights movement got rid of the Democrat Jim Crow laws until, during Nixon's tenure, the Republicans bought the franchise on racial hatred.

 

We saw the race card played to the max by Trump and now others politicians on the right see mileage in extremist far right racist policies and replacing the "socialist" regime with a fascist regime.

 

 

 

 

Occasionally I agree with you. This is not one of them. 

[Sparktrader]

26 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

Kim was buying time, so he could continue the development of his nuclear weaponry. And he blew smoke up Trump’s @ss, to butter him up. Which worked like a charm. 

Nobody in the west has stopped Kim doing anything.

 

 

[rudi49jr]

2 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

If no cameras or proper scrutiny.

And you know this how?

 

2 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Nobody in the west has stopped Kim doing anything.

 

 

Don’t kid yourself, Trump didn’t either.

[billd766]

9 hours ago, Pouatchee said:

That is rigged as well.

Really? Trump tried that 63 times screaming about rigged polls.

 

He failed every time.

 

I could be wrong and I am sure that you will provide the links to prove it.

[Sparktrader]

Just now, rudi49jr said:

And you know this how?

 

Don’t kid yourself, Trump didn’t either.

Im not but he tried. Biden least popular potus since Truman. Thats very bad for you Democrat supporters.

 

 

 

 

[billd766]

9 hours ago, BangkokHank said:

What will that achieve - now that the Democrats have figured out that they can just steal the elections?

Naturally you have the proof and the links for this and will post them for us all to see.

[Wrwest]

20 hours ago, Credo said:

.....maybe just best to do it at the ballot box.  

 

Agreed ... but here we are after 50 +/- years of doing just that.

Edited July 26, 2022 by Wrwest

[Wrwest]

I do not pretend to have "The Answer", but I am certain that the justified frustration/anger built up within the American working middle class is a powder keg. I believe this as the result of the long term policies of both the Republican and Democrat Parties. The economic squeeze has been allowed to progress too long. It has lead to the current shredding of the fabric of American society. I had said in the past, that the madness will continue unless/until the issue is progressively forcefully addressed. Raise the minimum wage, institute a national healthcare program, extend the US Public School model for an additional two years of higher education, protect the earned Social Security/Medicare retirement benefits of the working middle class. Here are moderate steps that can be taken immediately to give hope and allow more income to be retained in the working middle class while more serious steps are debated and passed by Congress. Those in power positions, in Congress or business ... move forcefully and quickly for you have brought the USA to the brink of utter destruction by your thinking and action/inaction. Trump was supported because he gave voice to this frustration/anger. A minority storming the capital and trying to overthrow the current system is a result of this frustration/anger. Continue your base political maneuvering, your delaying addressing the major issue and you have lost the USA for all of us. Already, the USA is being reduced to "leading" only in military power. A very sad note indeed!!!

[rudi49jr]

3 minutes ago, Wrwest said:

I do not pretend to have "The Answer", but I am certain that the justified frustration/anger built up within the American working middle class is a powder keg. I believe this as the result of the long term policies of both the Republican and Democrat Parties. The economic squeeze has been allowed to progress too long. It has lead to the current shredding of the fabric of American society. I had said in the past, that the madness will continue unless/until the issue is progressively forcefully addressed. Raise the minimum wage, institute a national healthcare program, extend the US Public School model for an additional two years of higher education, protect the earned Social Security/Medicare retirement benefits of the working middle class. Here are moderate steps that can be taken immediately to give hope and allow more income to be retained in the working middle class while more serious steps are debated and passed by Congress. Those in power positions, in Congress or business ... move forcefully and quickly for you have brought the USA to the brink of utter destruction by your thinking and action/inaction. Trump was supported because he gave voice to this frustration/anger. A minority storming the capital and trying to overthrow the current system is a result of this frustration/anger. Continue your base political maneuvering, your delaying addressing the major issue and you have lost the USA for all of us. Already, the USA is being reduced to "leading" only in military power. A very sad note indeed!!!

Careful, you’re going to be accused of being socialist…