The Alex Jones Trial Is As Messy As You’d Expect

[Scott]

Infowars founder and conspiracist jack-of-all-trades Alex Jones is finally on trial to determine how much he must pay the families of ten victims of the Sandy Hook shooting after a judge last year found him liable for defamation for calling the attack a hoax.

The consequences could be serious. The parents of the children killed in the 2012 massacre are seeking as much as $150 million in damages from Jones, whose business filed for bankruptcy earlier this year.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/08/alex-jones-testified-in-sandy-hook-lawsuit-and-it-was-a-mess.html

[stevenl]

So his lawyers handed the opposite side all phone data and didn't claim it as privileged when informed of their mistake. Marvelous.

And he was making 800k a day at one point. Sick.

[Bkk Brian]

Love this twitter video snippet from the trial.......lol

 

A judge scolded right-wing conspiracy theorist Alex Jones on Tuesday for lying under oath during his defamation trial in Travis County, Tex. “You must tell the truth while you testify,” Judge Maya Guerra Gamble said. “This is not your show.”

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1554856818450612225

 

[LarrySR]

2 hours ago, stevenl said:

So his lawyers handed the opposite side all phone data and didn't claim it as privileged when informed of their mistake. Marvelous.

And he was making 800k a day at one point. Sick.

Yep. Jones attorneys sent copies of Jones phones data to the plaintiffs by mistake. 
Now the civil trial that awards monetary damages has his financials that say he isn’t bankrupt but in reality earned up to $5 million a week.
 

The phone data might  put Jones in danger of criminal offenses like perjury and allegations of possession of child porn on his phone data. 
 

Edited August 4, 2022 by LarrySR

[xylophone]

There seems to be no end to these nut jobs, and I wonder if it's because they are just stupid, or because they are in it for the fame and money?

 

Perhaps he believes it, but the proof is there for all to see, so why broadcast lies and rubbish in much the same manner as the Anti-vaxxers have done?

 

Someone should do the world a favour and have him put down, one way or another.

 

just as a reminder:- for years the bombastic, far-right Infowars founder ranted to his millions of followers that the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting was a hoax, that children weren't killed and that parents were crisis actors in an elaborate ruse to force gun control. 

Edited August 4, 2022 by xylophone
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[ozimoron]

16 minutes ago, xylophone said:

There seems to be no end to these nut jobs, and I wonder if it's because they are just stupid, or because they are in it for the fame and money?

 

Perhaps he believes it, but the proof is there for all to see, so why broadcast lies and rubbish in much the same manner as the Anti-vaxxers have done?

 

Someone should do the world a favour and have him put down, one way or another.

 

just as a reminder:- for years the bombastic, far-right Infowars founder ranted to his millions of followers that the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting was a hoax, that children weren't killed and that parents were crisis actors in an elaborate ruse to force gun control. 

Fame and money obviously. Extending on the faux news playbook, Jones exploited the feeble minded and gullible with false conspiracy theories for profit.

 

"This is as serious as a heart attack," said Melber. "That warning about perjury is real. Jones is being sued for defamation and now he has been caught lying on the stand and he hasn't even reached the punishment phase of how much he would have to pay. It could get worse.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/alex-jones-testmony/

Edited August 4, 2022 by ozimoron

[Bkk Brian]

Text Bombshell Stuns Conspiracy Theorist Alex Jones In Trial On 'Sick' Sandy Hook Lies

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

I hope the parents of the Sandy Hook victims and the lawyers strip this POS of every last cent.

 

And then we can start with the criminal trials.

 

Lock him up.

[bamnutsak]

Tough day for Mr. Jones, his texts and emails from this device have been subpeoned by the Jan 6 Committee.

 

Hopefully he got the note to erase all Seditious Conspiracy texts.

 

He previously, January, pled the fifth over 100 times during his testimony to this COmmittee.

 

"Too stupid for Law & Order." - Ben Colins on Twitter and MSNBC

 

 

[Sparktrader]

How is that defamation? If u call moon landing a hoax is it,?

[ozimoron]

6 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

How is that defamation? If u call moon landing a hoax is it,?

The moon doesn't have kids who were slaughtered by high powered weapons.

 

This is a defamation case. Jones called the parents "crisis actors" and claimed the whole thing was staged..

Edited August 4, 2022 by ozimoron

[candide]

7 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

How is that defamation? If u call moon landing a hoax is it,?

He only claimed the parents were paid actors.... ????

[Sparktrader]

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

the moon doesn't have kids who were slaughtered by high powered weapons.

Still i dont get it. He didnt kill anyone, he just spoke rubbish. Weird world.

[Sparktrader]

Just now, candide said:

He only claimed the parents were paid actors.... ????

Which means he is a moron. Crime to be a moron? Have to sue 3bn people

[candide]

2 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Which means he is a moron. Crime to be a moron? Have to sue 3bn people

To be accused of being a paid actor, and not a parent of a dead or injured child, looks like defamation to me. 

[ozimoron]

6 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Still i dont get it. He didnt kill anyone, he just spoke rubbish. Weird world.

You don't believe he defamed the parents? a US court has found otherwise. Where's his appeal? This trial is for compensation to his victims. There is no longer a question as to his culpability but rather to how much he has to pay. I hope it breaks him. He's madly trying every trick he can to stash his money and is far from showing any remorse.

Edited August 4, 2022 by ozimoron

[Sparktrader]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

You don't believe he defamed the parents? a US court has found otherwise. Where's his appeal? This trial is for compensation to his victims. There is no longer a question as to his culpability but rather to how much he has to pay. I hope it breaks him. He's madly trying every trick he can to stash his money and is far from showing any remorse.

The victims should sue the police shouldnt they or the school?

[ozimoron]

Just now, Sparktrader said:

The victims should sue the police shouldnt they or the school?

Why? How are the police involved? Defamation is a civil matter. Lying in court might bring charges but what he did isn't criminal. How is the school liable?

[Sparktrader]

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

How is the school liable?

Lack of security. That one a few weeks ago the police took 1 hr to act.

 

 

[ozimoron]

Just now, Sparktrader said:

Lack of security. That one a few weeks ago the police took 1 hr to act.

Did Jones even mention school security or are you just trying to deflect?

[Bkk Brian]

13 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Still i dont get it. He didnt kill anyone, he just spoke rubbish. Weird world.

"Speech is free, but you have to pay for your lies." — Sandy Hook family's lawyer Kyle Farrar

[ozimoron]

16 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Still i dont get it. He didnt kill anyone, he just spoke rubbish. Weird world.

The parents received threats as a direct result of Jones' actions.

[Sparktrader]

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Did Jones even mention school security or are you just trying to deflect?

Why did the kids get shot? Happens every year in the usa. Too many guns, not enough school security. 

[ozimoron]

Just now, Sparktrader said:

Why did the kids get shot? Happens every year in the usa. Too many guns, not enough school security. 

I agree that there are too many guns. School security can't be improved to a level sufficient to prevent these murders at any cost even remotely reasonable or acceptable to anybody. It's still off topic. This is about Jones' financial penalty for defamation and spreading fake conspiracy theories. He is the most well known far right bigot in US politics. Jones is scum.

[candide]

2 hours ago, xylophone said:

There seems to be no end to these nut jobs, and I wonder if it's because they are just stupid, or because they are in it for the fame and money?

 

Perhaps he believes it, but the proof is there for all to see, so why broadcast lies and rubbish in much the same manner as the Anti-vaxxers have done?

 

Someone should do the world a favour and have him put down, one way or another.

 

just as a reminder:- for years the bombastic, far-right Infowars founder ranted to his millions of followers that the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting was a hoax, that children weren't killed and that parents were crisis actors in an elaborate ruse to force gun control. 

There's not to these nut jobs, because it works! There is a mass of people ready to believe anything Jones and other crooks like him (including politicians) may feed them with. All these conspiracy theories, such as 9/11, Sandy Hook, pizzagate, stolen elections, vaccine, etc... got a large audience, not only in social media but also in mass media such as Fox News.

As long as there are people ready to believe such B.S., there will be people who will take advantage of it.

[Berkshire]

24 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Still i dont get it. He didnt kill anyone, he just spoke rubbish. Weird world.

So you're defending Alex Jones.  Lordy.  This guy is scum of the earth, profiting with lies.  It's bad enough that the parents of these murdered kids lost their children, but they were subject to death threats from wingnuts who believed Jones.  You can support free speech, but also be against this type of deliberate lying and hate speech.  Free speech comes with a responsibility.  Clearly, Jones was irresponsible.   

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Berkshire said:

So you're defending Alex Jones.  Lordy.  This guy is scum of the earth, profiting with lies.  It's bad enough that the parents of these murdered kids lost their children, but they were subject to death threats from wingnuts who believed Jones.  You can support free speech, but also be against this type of deliberate lying and hate speech.  Free speech comes with a responsibility.  Clearly, Jones was irresponsible.   

He wasn't irresponsible. His words were deliberately calculated to be inflammatory and intended to cause harm is pursuit of profit.

[Sparktrader]

2 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

So you're defending Alex Jones.  Lordy.  This guy is scum of the earth, profiting with lies.  It's bad enough that the parents of these murdered kids lost their children, but they were subject to death threats from wingnuts who believed Jones.  You can support free speech, but also be against this type of deliberate lying and hate speech.  Free speech comes with a responsibility.  Clearly, Jones was irresponsible.   

He seems crazy to me but murder is murder. He just spoke words. Talking rubbish shouldnt be considered worse than murder.

[Bkk Brian]

No this is what he really is:

 

Detective: Alex Jones ‘most dangerous’ type of attack denier

 

Jones repeatedly “lied and attacked the parents of murdered children” when he told his Infowars audience that the shooting was a hoax, Bankston said. He created a “massive campaign of lies” and recruited “wild extremists from the fringes of the internet.

 

https://apnews.com/article/alex-jones-sandy-hook-trial-07b7ee981d6fcd3ebfbccac65ee89d4d

[ozimoron]

Just now, Sparktrader said:

He seems crazy to me but murder is murder. He just spoke words. Talking rubbish shouldnt be considered worse than murder.

Words that incited violence or threats of violence. That's a felony offense.