POLITICS Trump says FBI raiding his Mar-a-Lago home

[Chomper Higgot]

Trump is right about one thing, no former President has ever been treated like this before.

 

The FBI are very clearly treating him like a common criminal.

 

 

[pomchop]

Trump pleads fifth in NYC

 

"So there are five people taking the Fifth Amendment, like you see on the mob, right? You see the mob takes the Fifth. If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?" Trump told the crowd at an Iowa rally in September 2016.

[pomchop]

and surprise surprise surprise for the kool aide cult this email went out last night from the trump con man crew...get out your credit cards and send more $$  IMMEDIATELY

 

“Mar-a-Lago was raided,” the email began. “The radical Left is corrupt. We must return the power to the people. Please rush in a donation immediately to publicly stand with me against this never-ending witch hunt.”

[Gecko123]

Edited August 10, 2022 by Gecko123

[ozimoron]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

You are likely correct. I doubt they would seek jail time for an ex prez. It would be precedent setting, and it would be absolutely lovely to see. But, I doubt it will happen. Unfortunately. 

Furthermore, they're unlikely to prevent him from running again.

 

[nauseus]

4 hours ago, LaosLover said:

Trump ruined righties. They're either berserk-o or a RINO dreading the next Stalineque purge. 

Right O

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, nauseus said:

Right O

Well they either subscribe to the big lie or they get primaried.

[ozimoron]

An Informer Told the FBI What Docs Trump Was Hiding, and Where

https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-informer-told-fbi-what-docs-trump-was-hiding-where-1732283

[habanero]

3 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Donald Trump invoked the Fifth Amendment and wouldn’t answer questions under oath in the New York attorney general’s long-running civil investigation into his business dealings, the former president said in a statement Wednesday.

 

“I once asked, ‘If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?’ Now I know the answer to that question,” the statement said.

 

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-ny-investigation-testimony-a4e6264d44b194d24dfb916ffc7f51ca

That is the stupid mistake the ignorant make. Talking when it is in your best interest to be silent and let your attorneys do the talking. The 5th amendment was written for a reason. The smart people use it. 

 I would never talk to the police either, even though I am completely innocent. 

Edited August 10, 2022 by habanero

[ozimoron]

Just now, habanero said:

That is the stupid mistake the ignorant make. Talking when it is in your best interest to be silent and let your attorneys do the talking. The 5th amendment was written for a reason. The smart people use it.

So, Trump was dumb to criticize it in 2016?

[ozimoron]

FBI agents have seized the cell phone belonging to Rep. Scott Perry (R-PA) less than 24 hours after searching Donald Trump's home in Florida, and the highly unusual move signals he's a new target in the Jan. 6 probe.

 

The Pennsylvania Republican is hardly a household name, but he has figured prominently in testimony in public hearings of the Jan. 6 committee, where witnesses have testified that Perry played a central role in the former president's attempt to remain in power and sought a pardon for his efforts, wrote MSNBC columnist Steve Benen.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/scott-perry-jan-6-2657842034/

 

[riclag]

57 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

An Informer Told the FBI What Docs Trump Was Hiding, and Where

https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-informer-told-fbi-what-docs-trump-was-hiding-where-1732283

 Newsweek:

"The effort to keep the raid low-key failed: instead, it prompted a furious response from GOP leaders and Trump supporters. "What a spectacular backfire," says the Justice official".

 

"I know that there is much speculation out there that this is political persecution, but it is really the best and the worst of the bureaucracy in action," the official says. "

 

Voting midterms in the USA, just went viral imop

[pomchop]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

Well they either subscribe to the big lie or they get primaried.

or they grow a spine and quit hiding under their desks

[bendejo]

2 hours ago, habanero said:

That is the stupid mistake the ignorant make. Talking when it is in your best interest to be silent and let your attorneys do the talking. The 5th amendment was written for a reason. The smart people use it. 

 I would never talk to the police either, even though I am completely innocent. 

 

 

And then there is the matter of his own adverse inference.

 

Looks like Newsweek is pulling back on their support for him.

 

 

Edited August 10, 2022 by bendejo

[spidermike007]

3 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Furthermore, they're unlikely to prevent him from running again.

 

That alone is worth it. As poorly as Biden has performed, one more Trump term and we could be facing a civil war. 

[Walker88]

There is a delicious irony unfolding in this case:

 

As a stringer in a Bill he signed in 2018, the penalties were increased for "knowingly removing classified materials with the intent to retain them at an unauthorized location."  Until 45 signed the Bill, the maximum penalty was a 1 year prison sentence. Now it is a felony-level offense and the maximum sentence increased to 5 years in the Federal Penn.

 

It seems 45 might get hoisted on his own petard.

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[LarrySR]

Just an observation,

Seems most political arguments here fall into two camps. The misinformed vs informed.

Why are people in the "Trump camp" so massively ignorant?

Edited August 10, 2022 by LarrySR

[EVENKEEL]

This is a bold move by the white house. You'd have to be terribly naïve not to think the white house knew of the raid. All the people suffering from trump hysteria better hope the FBI found something  in the search. If not Trump will for sure run in 2024. Carry on.

Edited August 10, 2022 by EVENKEEL

[Excel]

41 minutes ago, LarrySR said:

Just an observation,

Seems most political arguments here fall into two camps. The misinformed vs informed.

Why are people in the "Trump camp" so massively ignorant?

Well if it were Thailand they would blame it on poor education, so can that be the case in the US ? or just right wing indoctrination for the more mentally challenged ?

[bendejo]

2 hours ago, Walker88 said:

There is a delicious irony unfolding in this case:

 

As a stringer in a Bill he signed in 2018, the penalties were increased for "knowingly removing classified materials with the intent to retain them at an unauthorized location."  Until 45 signed the Bill, the maximum penalty was a 1 year prison sentence. Now it is a felony-level offense and the maximum sentence increased to 5 years in the Federal Penn.

 

It seems 45 might get hoisted on his own petard.

I'm curious as to whom introduced this.

As much as it pains me to admit it, this was what Kellyanne would warn him of.  When he wanted to make it easier to sue and censor the media she told him it could also be used against him, and apparently he's kept shut about it. 

Consider this: somewhere in that Florida stash is a text of this law, and DT thinks if he hides it they won't know it exists. 

 

Hey, like I said on November 8, 2016:

I will never use the expression 'nobody is that stupid' again.

 

 

[SunnyinBangrak]

6 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Well they either subscribe to the big lie or they get primaried.

I keep seeing Trump's saying Biden is illegitimate referred to as the "big lie".

 

Are you able to explain why when Trump says it, it is a "big lie", yet when Democrats said falsely that the legitimate Republican President is illegitimate it is not criticized, certainly not called a "big lie"?

 

I can not understand the clear double standards at play (that we see over and over and over and over)

 

NB. supporting evidence that both Clinton and Biden called Trump an illegitimate President - the same as he said.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/video/embed?id=66010832

https://www.insider.com/joe-biden-says-he-agrees-trump-is-illegitimate-president-2019-5

[mania]

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

As poorly as Biden has performed, one more Trump term and we could be facing a civil war. 

Nonsense

It is always the snowflakes on the left that say such things

 

The whole time Trump was president they whined & whined. Every day the MSN slaughtered his every word

Even on this very "Thai" Forum daily threads about Trump

 

Yet now even by your own words Biden is a total 0 a poor performer with an approval rating lower than anything previous

Yet do you hear the right whine daily?

Does the MSN persecute him??

 

Really I could care less for either side but the left always makes comments such as yours yet they are the total babies incapable of a civil

war. Instead they throw tantrums & knock over statues or loot, burn & trash their own neighborhoods as seen many times.

 

Edited August 11, 2022 by mania

[bamnutsak]

Rumors of an informant, AKA "a rat" led to Mar-a-Lardo raid?

 

Trump allies think there's a traitor in Mar-a-Lago who informed on him to the FBI: Axios

 

Allies of Donald Trump believe an aide or aides to the former president may have "flipped" and provided evidence to the FBI about what he was keeping in his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida, Axios reported on Wednesday.

 

The report said people close to Trump were feeling paranoid after Monday's FBI raid on the resort Trump made his home after leaving the White House.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-allies-think-traitor-informed-on-trump-to-fbi-axios-2022-8

[Excel]

21 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

Allies of Donald Trump believe an aide or aides to the former president may have "flipped"

More like DT's supporters have flipped from reality into a parallel universe of absurdity.

[Walker88]

An interesting aspect of this is that neither DoJ nor the FBI publicized a thing about this warrant and search. The only reason it became public is because 45 told everyone. The search took place over ten hours. Not a peep from DoJ or FBI. Had either said anything publicly, 45 would have whined that those entities are trying to prejudice people against him and how 'terribly UNFAIR !" is it, as is his usual Snowflakian whine.

 

45 was given no ammunition, so instead he simmered for a while then decided how he was going to grift it: portray himself as an innocent victim and then raise money off of it. His cult then had their talking points already ready and helped him play the victim card, even insinuating that ex-POTUSs are above the law. That is just more proof of the damage wrought by the carnival barker 45....the most cherished US ideals are suspended for him, such as being subject to law or admitting defeat in an election he clearly lost, or helping in the peaceful transition. Everything he ever does is 100% self-serving and aimed at fueling the passions of his cult, even toward violence.

 

The Cult had their comments ready: one House Rep tweeted: "If they can do this to a former POTUS, imagine what they can do to you", as if law enforcement has never executed a search warrant against a suspected criminal act ever, and it implied that an ex-POTUS is above the law. Has there ever been a sillier statement from an elected official who supposedly swore an oath not to a person, but to the Constitution?

 

Now the reason the public knows what they know is because of a combination of 45 whines and on-scene reporters talking about 12 boxes of stuff carried off.

 

Both DoJ and FBI have remained quiet, as they should. Any utterance by either would immediately be met with cries of 'prejudicial statements'. The pros at both entities have given no ammo to the cult.

 

45 is free to publicize the warrant, too, as he has a full copy, but he has chosen not to do so, as that would take away his ability to try to control the narrative. He can whine like the crybaby he is---and it works in his cult---but it has to frustrate him that DoJ and FBI are behaving 100% professionally and in no way prejudicing the situation.

[Walker88]

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I keep seeing Trump's saying Biden is illegitimate referred to as the "big lie".

 

Are you able to explain why when Trump says it, it is a "big lie", yet when Democrats said falsely that the legitimate Republican President is illegitimate it is not criticized, certainly not called a "big lie"?

 

I can not understand the clear double standards at play (that we see over and over and over and over)

 

 

Are you playing the Home Version of Whataboutism?

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I keep seeing Trump's saying Biden is illegitimate referred to as the "big lie".

 

Are you able to explain why when Trump says it, it is a "big lie", yet when Democrats said falsely that the legitimate Republican President is illegitimate it is not criticized, certainly not called a "big lie"?

 

I can not understand the clear double standards at play (that we see over and over and over and over)

 

NB. supporting evidence that both Clinton and Biden called Trump an illegitimate President - the same as he said.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/video/embed?id=66010832

https://www.insider.com/joe-biden-says-he-agrees-trump-is-illegitimate-president-2019-5

Trump said, and continues to say, that the 2020 election was stolen.  That is the big lie.

 

Did Biden, Clinton, or anyone else attempt to prevent the handover of power following the 2016 election?

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

This is a bold move by the white house. You'd have to be terribly naïve not to think the white house knew of the raid. All the people suffering from trump hysteria better hope the FBI found something  in the search. If not Trump will for sure run in 2024. Carry on.

The words of a dedicated conspiracy theorist. 

 

Before Trump the White House tried to keep away from Justice Department affairs.  The current White House is returning to that admirable policy.

 

Of course you won't believe that, even though you have no evidence to the contrary.

[Walker88]

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

This is a bold move by the white house. You'd have to be terribly naïve not to think the white house knew of the raid. All the people suffering from trump hysteria better hope the FBI found something  in the search. If not Trump will for sure run in 2024. Carry on.

No, one need not be 'terribly naive' not to think that; one need only not to be a conspiratorialist or cult member, or not have their cynicism impacted by the grifting behavior of 45.

 

45's son made a particularly silly statement, which reflected perfectly his gene pool, when he said, "Nobody knows more about how the White House works than me, and I know the President and AG discuss these things"

 

Well, sad sack son knows only how his grifter father ran the WH; he has no clue how more moral and law abiding Presidents did things, which is to stay out of DoJ matters and let the AG do things without fear nor favor. AG Garland is 100% by the book, so he would not have informed Biden. In contrast, 45 tried repeatedly to weaponize the DoJ, wanting them to go after his enemies like John Brennan and Andrew McCabe, as well, of course, HRC.

 

In contrast, I am intimately familiar with how the Obama Admin handled the entire Russia matter. It first came to the attention of CIA, and NOT via Christopher Steele. John Brennan, then DCI, immediately set up a Bigot List, severely restricting knowledge of the intel (some of which came from clandestine sources). Brennan did nothing with it except hand all intel, in total, to the FBI and DoJ, who would have authority on matters when a US Person is involved. Obama also decided to make no public statement regarding the fact that putin was trying to help 45 (this is not saying 45 knew and accepted the help, only that putin had a goal of helping 45). THAT is professional, and even was subsequently blessed by Durham, who found Brennan and CIA, plus Obama, had followed the letter of the law 100%.