Down and out in England.

[simon43]

On 11/28/2022 at 1:54 PM, hotandsticky said:

May "have".

Just to comment that the maximum age for foreign teachers in Myanmar seems to be about 100....

[proton]

Having to teach (when not a teacher) just to survive in any South East Asian country sounds desperate, he's better off back home.

[hotandsticky]

12 minutes ago, proton said:

Having to teach (when not a teacher) just to survive in any South East Asian country sounds desperate, he's better off back home.

Not by the sounds of it.

[Thujone]

3 hours ago, proton said:

Having to teach (when not a teacher) just to survive in any South East Asian country sounds desperate, he's better off back home.

You may have a point, if I had a home... 

Things going from bad to worse at the moment, I'll post back when/if things take a turn for the better. 

 

(Thanks to hotandsticky for the dark humour.) 

Edited November 30, 2022 by Thujone
Added thanks.

[Phnom Penh Trader]

On 11/19/2022 at 9:26 PM, Thujone said:

Funny old world, innit? 

Hastings Council have decided that my right to live in this flat runs out on 5th of January.

Then I will be out on the street and presumably frozen like a dog turd on the pavement by the night of the 6th.

So...first idea is that if I can manage to beg/borrow the money for the flight, does anybody know the best way I can get a teaching job organised in Cambodia before January?

There's only a slim chance I'll be able to do this, but if the alternative is making my bed on Hastings beach in January, I'll certainly have the stimulation to put in full effort. 

I always knew getting old was going to be <deleted>. 

I am absolutely staggered that they have you anywhere in the first place as a white,single male in the UK you (we) are utterly worthless?

I found myself recently due to the pandemic in a very similar situation,having returned from South-East Asia with no credit rating whatsoever to speak of here THAT is the killer blow back in the UK.

Accommodation wise these companies may be able to help you out with a non-existent but all-important credit rating? :

https://www.adhocproperty.co.uk
 

https://www.vps-guardians.co.uk/properties/
 

Good luck but I see you have now realised what a massive mistake you made in coming back to the UK,I made the same mistake but trusted my adoptive family that I’d helped out on many occasions.

I’m literally on the verge of leaving the UK again now having scraped through purely by opening my own business here in the UK,which the government have tried to shut down for around three and a half years now like all small businesses which they absolutely despise!

I will NEVER return to the UK again it is an absolute mess with inflation running over 11%,mortgage rates doubling and energy bills tripling or even quadrupling!

There are 500,000 private renters facing eviction orders right now in the UK,plus a further 500,000 behind with their rent due to increases from the above it was on the news tonight!

That is 1 Million family units looking at the very real prosecutions of homelessness very soon,the UK is akin to the third world and if you don’t know how to play the system you will NEVER survive here!

This thread is good advice for anyone thinking that returning home without accommodation or money is a good idea,do anything that you can to avoid this situation as it may well prove to be a fatal decision if you end up homeless on the streets of the UK in winter?

I am just lucky that I’m young enough and smart enough to drag myself up and out of the same horrific scenario,it is not a mistake I will ever make again thank goodness.

It can happen to anyone and the OP has my deepest sympathy I hope he makes it back out to SEA for a teaching job,it sounds like he has had a very lucky escape?

 

[puchooay]

22 hours ago, Thujone said:

You may have a point, if I had a home... 

Things going from bad to worse at the moment, I'll post back when/if things take a turn for the better. 

 

(Thanks to hotandsticky for the dark humour.) 

How old are you?

[CharlieH]

31 minutes ago, puchooay said:

How old are you?

60+

[simon43]

On 11/30/2022 at 11:17 AM, proton said:

Having to teach (when not a teacher) just to survive in any South East Asian country sounds desperate, he's better off back home.

For the record, I was not a teacher until 2012, when utterly drained of my finances and with a clinically mad ex-wife actively demonstrating how clinically mad she really was.....  I became a kindergarten teacher in Myanmar, (based on my good technical education, no previous teaching experience).  It was either do that job or return to ol' Blighty and an uncertain future.  I grew to love my job, obtained various teaching qualifications along the way, and now have a very enjoyable life.

[puchooay]

5 hours ago, CharlieH said:

60+

Vague but never mind.

 

@OP..... I was listening to More radio this morning. They cover East and West Sussex. 

 

There were a couple of recruitment ads.

 

One was as a care/support worker. These jobs require no experience. Training give once in the job.

 

Starting rates were £13 an hour.

 

Can't remember the name of the company. Sorry.

 

Google is your friend 

[Mac Mickmanus]

15 hours ago, Phnom Penh Trader said:

I am absolutely staggered that they have you anywhere in the first place as a white,single male in the UK you (we) are utterly worthless?

 

 

I was rather surprised that he was given accommodation as well , maybe his Council had some spare available accommodation at the time , single guys are usually given the addresses of hostel for the night and told to go there .

    It could be quite an important point for some older guys in Thailand , who would expect to be given a council flat if they go back to the UK 

[Denim]

Any news on the fate of the OP  ?   Be nice to know if there was eventually a happy ending.

[Terry2905]

On 8/21/2022 at 8:55 AM, CharlieH said:

Contact Age Concern, they may be able to help.

Next would be Salvation Army or Samaritans as a suggestion.

 

What area are you originally from ?

 

There is a pinned info topic on "going back" that may also help.

 

 

Originally based in Blackpool, which is where I would be looking to return to. 

 

And thanks for the link.

[proton]

3 hours ago, Terry2905 said:

Originally based in Blackpool, which is where I would be looking to return to. 

 

And thanks for the link.

At least they mostly speak Englsih, bit like Pattaya but without the girls ???? It will be hard at first but you can get used to anything, and the pension date is not that far off.

[Thujone]

What a long strange trip it's been.

Apart from a few nights in emergency accommodation, due to the temp going below freezing, (the less said about that episode the better), I have been sleeping rough.

Strangely, surprisingly, I've sort-of got used to it.

And as I am homeless anywhere in England, I can move around, so my wanderlust is sated.

 

I thought I'd pop back in , as it been a year since I came back, just to keep those interested up with how things are going.

They're going terribly.

 

Greetings from Down and Out in England.

[Andrew Dwyer]

27 minutes ago, Thujone said:

What a long strange trip it's been.

Apart from a few nights in emergency accommodation, due to the temp going below freezing, (the less said about that episode the better), I have been sleeping rough.

Strangely, surprisingly, I've sort-of got used to it.

And as I am homeless anywhere in England, I can move around, so my wanderlust is sated.

 

I thought I'd pop back in , as it been a year since I came back, just to keep those interested up with how things are going.

They're going terribly.

 

Greetings from Down and Out in England.

Very sorry to hear that Thujone, I can safely say that we were all routing for you to have a satisfactory outcome.

 

I don’t have any advice to offer but do hope things will turn around for you.

[scubascuba3]

Hard to believe they let someone become homeless and for a long period but yet a migrant arriving on a dingy gets put up into a hotel immediately on arrival

[Chomper Higgot]

12 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Hard to believe they let someone become homeless and for a long period but yet a migrant arriving on a dingy gets put up into a hotel immediately on arrival

The thread isn’t about Migrants.

 

It is however a salutary warning.

[EVENKEEL]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The thread isn’t about Migrants.

 

It is however a salutary warning.

It's much the same elsewhere. Migrants are welcomed with open arms and it's citizens are cold and hungery. 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

It's much the same elsewhere. Migrants are welcomed with open arms and it's citizens are cold and hungery. 

It’s the same everywhere, if you get detained by the authorities they provide you with accommodation.

[Denim]

20 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Very sorry to hear that Thujone, I can safely say that we were all routing for you to have a satisfactory outcome.

 

I don’t have any advice to offer but do hope things will turn around for you.

Sorry to hear no improvements  in your fortunes. If you are sleeping  rough do you have a small one man tent and sleeping  bag ? I watched a YouTube video about homelessness. 

One of those interviewed  had been sleeping rough for 20 years and was now used to it. He spent a little money on wild camping equipment and had walked the entire coastline of the UK twice ! He said he had really enjoy the beauty of it all and managed to pick up a few odd jobs along the way to keep him going. He should have written a book about it. He found the silver lining to his cloud. Free as a bird beholding to no one and tied to nowhere.

[quake]

On 9/8/2023 at 7:10 PM, scubascuba3 said:

Hard to believe they let someone become homeless and for a long period but yet a migrant arriving on a dingy gets put up into a hotel immediately on arrival

Hear, Hear. 

[theoldgit]

On 9/9/2023 at 4:07 AM, EVENKEEL said:

It's much the same elsewhere. Migrants are welcomed with open arms and it's citizens are cold and hungery. 

 

On 9/9/2023 at 4:11 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s the same everywhere, if you get detained by the authorities they provide you with accommodation.

I’m not sure that migrants are welcome with open arms, many arrive in the UK illegally and we’re more or less stuck with them until they can they can be removed.

 

If you’re detained then of course you will be put in some sort of detention accommodation, you cannot detain people on the streets.

 

it is very difficult to find accommodation for Immigration Detainees, nobody wants Immigration Removal Centres in their back yard, people complain if they’re accommodated on barges or two to a room in a run down seaside hotel, the Government are really on a hiding to nothing, they’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t.

 

it’s really not easy to get rid of illegal immigrants or failed asylum seekers, you can’t just put an undocumented person on a plane and expect the destination country to accept them without question.

 

l have every sympathy with the OP and people in a similar position, including military veterans, but those are separate issue which  do need to be addressed.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, theoldgit said:

 

I’m not sure that migrants are welcome with open arms, many arrive in the UK illegally and we’re more or less stuck with them until they can they can be removed.

 

If you’re detained then of course you will be put in some sort of detention accommodation, you cannot detain people on the streets.

 

it is very difficult to find accommodation for Immigration Detainees, nobody wants Immigration Removal Centres in their back yard, people complain if they’re accommodated on barges or two to a room in a run down seaside hotel, the Government are really on a hiding to nothing, they’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t.

 

it’s really not easy to get rid of illegal immigrants or failed asylum seekers, you can’t just put an undocumented person on a plane and expect the destination country to accept them without question.

 

l have every sympathy with the OP and people in a similar position, including military veterans, but those are separate issue which  do need to be addressed.

Spot on.

[Nick Carter icp]

On 9/8/2023 at 1:10 PM, scubascuba3 said:

Hard to believe they let someone become homeless and for a long period but yet a migrant arriving on a dingy gets put up into a hotel immediately on arrival

British citizens have social security and housing laws to protect them and also housing benefit to stop homelessness and Brits are also expected to work to pay for their accommodation .

   Boat immigrants cannot work or claim benefits .

I do sympathise with the O.P , but he did opt out of U.K life and headed to warmer climes without much planning for his future.

   You cannot expect to spend the productive years of your life partying in Pattaya and then go back to the U.K and be given a house to live in .

[scubascuba3]

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

British citizens have social security and housing laws to protect them and also housing benefit to stop homelessness

Doesn't seem to be much use in the Ops case

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Doesn't seem to be much use in the Ops case

That is because he opted out of U.K life .

Had he remained in the U.K and remained in a home, there would have been protection laws to keep him in his home and he could have applied for housing benefit to pay his rent .

   He can still apply for housing benefit , the only problem would be finding a property that will accept him, due to his lack of accountability  caused by him being abroad .

[quake]

Nothing more satisfying then kicking someone when there down.

How nasty and unbritish of some posters,

Some posters are a 100% up themselves.

 

His a brit.

Not an Afghan, Albanian, Indian, Pakistani, Nigerian, somalin.

Iranian, just to mention a few,  who turn up on our doorstep everyday.

with there hands out.

 

Shame on some of you. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 11, 2023 by quake

[Nick Carter icp]

3 minutes ago, quake said:

Nothing more satisfying then kicking someone when there down.

How nasty and unbritish of some posters,

Some posters are a 100% up themselves.

 

His a brit.

Not an Afghan, Albanian, Indian, Pakistani, Nigerian, somalin.

just to mention a few,  who turn up on our doorstep everyday.

with there hands out.

 

Shame on some of you. 

 

 

 

 

He is a Brit who left the U.K to live abroad and only went back to the U.K because he didn't have much other choice 

[quake]

Altogether now.

You put the right boot in.

The right boot out.

In out, in out

Shake it all about.

 

[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, quake said:

Altogether now.

You put the right boot in.

The right boot out.

In out, in out

Shake it all about.

 

Just discussing the situation in a pragmatic way .

Being honest really isn't "sticking the boot in" , its just giving an honest opinion