Medical staffs sign their names to demand to immediately shut down liberalization of marijuana use

[snoop1130]

 

A total of 1,363 medical doctors and staff on Monday, September 19th, have signed their names to demand the Ministry of Health to immediately shut down the liberalization of marijuana use in Thailand.

 

The petition was signed following the Public Health Ministry’s announcement of decriminalizing cannabis and hemp from the Category 5 of narcotic drugs but no policy or law enforcement guidelines implemented to control the use of marijuana comprehensively and safely, making Thailand what they call the most free marijuana country in the world for more than 3 months.

 

The statement reads: “This results in the widespread use of recreational marijuana in the community, leading to free access to cannabis use by children, teenagers, and vulnerable groups, which absolutely goes against the purposes for the cannabis legalization as claimed by the government.”

 

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[Snig27]

From the story:

 

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The statement also supported the proposals on the cannabis policy previously drafted by the Medical Council, the Medical Association of Thailand, and Royal Colleges on September 5th as well which was urging the government to immediately shut down the liberalization of marijuana without waiting for the enactment of the Cannabis and Hemp Act as the liberalization will continue to damage the people’s living and the country as a whole, according to them.

Not a word from these dishonest hypocritical bunch of clowns on the vast death toll every year from alcohol, not least on the roads. Complete silence.

Do they have any idea how much ganja was being smoked daily before the decriminalisation and how much damage that was doing to countless lives as people were criminalised? These so-called medical professionals should be stripped of their practising certificates.

[jak2002003]

14 minutes ago, Snig27 said:

From the story:

 

Not a word from these dishonest hypocritical bunch of clowns on the vast death toll every year from alcohol, not least on the roads. Complete silence.

Do they have any idea how much ganja was being smoked daily before the decriminalisation and how much damage that was doing to countless lives as people were criminalised? These so-called medical professionals should be stripped of their practising certificates.

Yes. I think they should ban all alcohol before weed. 

[MrJ2U]

Lots of "doctors" and "medical professionals" in Thailand wouldn't be allowed to practice in any Western country.

 

Most are naive and haven't any real practical training.

 

Whoever is signing this is probably a medical professional with little more knowledge and education than a street sweeper or clerk at HomePro. 

Edited September 19, 2022 by MrJ2U

[MrMuddle]

Given that these Doctors and Hospitals charge double price or more, to some patients purely because they are foreigners, I think one is entitled to question both their morals and reasoning behind this. Are they being paid to sign? 
One would expect supposedly educated people to have a greater understanding of the realities of the world.
Teenagers have always been able to get hold of Cannabis and much stronger drugs, illegally, in every country, for decades. Legalising Cannabis and controlling it's sales, should, in fact, lead to better quality product, that isn't contaminated with chemicals, or anything else that may be added to increase the weight of it, thereby cheating the buyer. 
Then there is the economic value Cannabis can bring to the Country. At a time when the tourist industry seems to be really struggling, Cannabis sales, and hopefully future exports, can provide much needed employment.
It seem to me that the benefits far outweigh the negatives.

[darksidedog]

2 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

A total of 1,363 medical doctors and staff on Monday

All of the above need to understand the concept of Pandoras box.

It's open now, always was partially it could be argued, but either way you are not going to be able to close it again easily.

Add to that weed legal and yaba or ice still seeing you go to prison could keep many people from going down bad paths.

 

[bannork]

Yes, alcohol in the wrong hands is dangerous, especially lao khao, but letting teenagers smoke ganga freely is equally dumb.

Thai teens are on the whole lazy, addicted to their phones, free use of ganga will only accentuate that.

Far better to give them part-time work at a decent wage 

[alyx]

6 minutes ago, bannork said:

Yes, alcohol in the wrong hands is dangerous, especially lao khao, but letting teenagers smoke ganga freely is equally dumb.

Thai teens are on the whole lazy, addicted to their phones, free use of ganga will only accentuate that.

Far better to give them part-time work at a decent wage 

Not specific to Thai teenagers, wouldn't you agree

[AsianAtHeart]

29 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

Yes. I think they should ban all alcohol before weed. 

There's a difference between alcohol and marijuana.  Alcohol is much easier to produce illegally.  When America disallowed the production and sale of alcohol for 18 years (called "Prohibition"), it flourished on the black market, and became a magnet for crime.  This led America to rescind the amendment and legalize the poison again.

 

Marijuana, for various reasons, is much less likely to foster these same problems.

 

But there certainly should be more education on the alcohol issue, and stricter controls to prevent drunken driving, etc.  Banning sales of alcohol during certain times of the day is ineffective because people know what the hours are and simply buy ahead.

 

All of these narcotics, to include alcohol, tobacco, and caffeine, should not be permitted to be sold or advertised to minors.  Because people are addicted to these, however, and because the producers have a good lobby with legislators, and/or the legislators stand to profit by their sale, restrictions are never quite what they should be.  Until the people demand changes of their leaders, no change can be expected.

 

So I am happy to see people bold enough to voice their concerns.  In Thailand, this is precious.

[rankric]

The stuff they sell in shops is really high grade, it's Skunk type stuff. It shocked me to see it. I expected Thai stick or a lower grade version that was not so blatent. The stuff they are supplying is no different to gear available in the dam.  Way too strong. Got 40 pecker joints of 2g, lasted 3 weeks. 

[MrMuddle]

2 hours ago, AsianAtHeart said:

There's a difference between alcohol and marijuana.  Alcohol is much easier to produce illegally.  When America disallowed the production and sale of alcohol for 18 years (called "Prohibition"), it flourished on the black market, and became a magnet for crime.  This led America to rescind the amendment and legalize the poison again.

 

Marijuana, for various reasons, is much less likely to foster these same problems.

 

But there certainly should be more education on the alcohol issue, and stricter controls to prevent drunken driving, etc.  Banning sales of alcohol during certain times of the day is ineffective because people know what the hours are and simply buy ahead.

 

All of these narcotics, to include alcohol, tobacco, and caffeine, should not be permitted to be sold or advertised to minors.  Because people are addicted to these, however, and because the producers have a good lobby with legislators, and/or the legislators stand to profit by their sale, restrictions are never quite what they should be.  Until the people demand changes of their leaders, no change can be expected.

 

So I am happy to see people bold enough to voice their concerns.  In Thailand, this is precious.

Hang on a minute earlier in the day you were spouting how bad Marijuana was, now it doesn't cause problems?
This is what you wrote:
 

"Cannabis affects the mind, reducing memory capacity and impairing judgment and logic.  Some of these effects are permanent.

 

Do as you will with giving people the option to choose for themselves, but let's hope no one tries to misrepresent as healthful the smoking of marijuana.

 

The drug's "bad image" is well deserved."

Your Maths isn't the best either. Prohibition in the USA lasted from 1920 to 1933, that was thirteen years, not 18 as you stated.



 

[AsianAtHeart]

4 hours ago, MrMuddle said:

Hang on a minute earlier in the day you were spouting how bad Marijuana was, now it doesn't cause problems?
This is what you wrote:
 

"Cannabis affects the mind, reducing memory capacity and impairing judgment and logic.  Some of these effects are permanent.

 

Do as you will with giving people the option to choose for themselves, but let's hope no one tries to misrepresent as healthful the smoking of marijuana.

 

The drug's "bad image" is well deserved."

Your Maths isn't the best either. Prohibition in the USA lasted from 1920 to 1933, that was thirteen years, not 18 as you stated.

Regarding the years, was going off of memory and didn't look it up: correction accepted.

 

Regarding the effects of marijuana, I had earlier addressed its effects on the mind, and later was addressing its effects on crime.  Surely you can still see the distinction between these two, can't you?  or have you already smoked too much marijuana?

[1sickpuppy]

Idiots abound, alcohol 1000 times worse, if i had kids i would prefer them smoking weed than being yah bah addicts Thailands biggest problem, and alcohol. too many ignorant idiots with there head in the sand

[RichardColeman]

9 hours ago, MrJ2U said:

Whoever is signing this is probably a medical professional with little more knowledge and education than a street sweeper or clerk at HomePro. 

I'd prefer any sort of advice from a medical person than someone smoking or promoting weed - my opinion

[JayBird]

It sounds like what these medical professionals are trying to say, but doesn't come across correctly, is:

 

We need to make sure kids don't get it or use it.

 

Put in the same restrictions as tobacco and alcohol and that problem will be equally solved.

 

 

[Sharp]

No doubt the same 'Medical Doctors' who advigated for questionable unproven vaccines in kids 

[thailand49]

Bravo!  Anutin who is the Health Minister with no background will receive and trash it. He is getting too much revenue even at this early stage to turn back now. ????

Rumor?  He starting a new franchise himself called

" MariZon " ????

Edited September 20, 2022 by thailand49

[Photoguy21]

The medical profession didn't raise any objection before the liberalization from what I can remember. Always wanting action after the horse has bolted.

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[daveAustin]

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Medical staffs sign their names to demand to immediately shut down liberalization of marijuana use

Oh do pipe-down! Go and 'fix' people with your dodgy pharmaceuticals instead of virtue signalling online!

[hotchilli]

17 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The statement reads: “This results in the widespread use of recreational marijuana in the community, leading to free access to cannabis use by children, teenagers, and vulnerable groups, which absolutely goes against the purposes for the cannabis legalization as claimed by the government.”

It goes exactly as Anutin planned... his cunning way to win votes and popularity.

PM in waiting.

If Prayut gets kicked out, Prawit will get his afternoon naps back and Anutin steps in.

[Burma Bill]

17 hours ago, Snig27 said:

These so-called medical professionals should be stripped of their practising certificates.

With respect, not at all! IMO it should be the "pot heads" who should be stripped of legal access to marijuana!

[Lapun]

Pardon the length of this, but the history of the legalization or banning of both cannabis & alcohol is complex & varies from country to country & time to time.

 

According to Wikipedia, Prohibition of alcohol in the US was ratified by the Eighteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, enabling national prohibition one year later on 17-01-1920. Prohibition was linked to the rise in gangland crime, particularly the Mafia.

The 18th amendment became the only amendment to be repealed by the Twenty-first Amendment which was ratified in 1933 & it is the only amendment to have been ratified by state ratifying conventions. This meant that some states continued to have prohibition.

By 1966, however, all states had repealed their statewide prohibition laws, with Mississippi the last state to do so. There are still some Dry States & Dry Counties in the USA today.

It is said that the ending of Prohibition saw homicides drop dramatically, & the creation of half a million jobs.

 

Cannabis (the hemp variety) was an important cash crop in the young USA. According to -

https://www.cnbs.org/cannabis-101/cannabis-prohibition/

 . . . King James I ordered that each colonist grow 100 hemp plants to be used for fiber exports. If a farmer refused to grow hemp, they could be fined or even jailed. Even George Washington, the very first U.S. president, was a hemp enthusiast, growing it at his plantation. Next to lumber and tobacco, hemp was the most popular cash crop in the U.S.

 

Apparently, hemp posed a threat to the profits of paper, nylon & ethanol (oil) manufacturers.

 

Cannabis (the drug variety) was then the subject of a "campaign against it, popularizing the Mexican Spanish name for the substance—“marihuana.” This painted cannabis as foreign and dangerously exotic, making it seem as though the criminalization of marijuana was necessary to keep the country safe.

 

Further . . .

Racist and fear-mongering views about marijuana weren’t limited to writing in local newspapers. One Texas senator said while speaking on the floor of the state Senate: “All Mexicans are crazy, and this stuff [marijuana] is what makes them crazy.” In time, marijuana had been inexorably linked with racial minorities, jazz and swing music, sexual debauchery, as well as unpredictable and violent behavior.

 

By 1936, 48 states had passed regulations on marijuana. And the 1937 Marijuana Tax Act had a considerable financial impact on the manufacture & availability of cannabis-infused medications.

 

This mean that doctors who had prescribed cannabis-infused medications for pain relief & other health issues, began prescribing other drugs.

 

To fill the medicinal void, pharmaceutical companies developed drugs that worked very well to kill pain. Aspirin and opium-derived drugs such as morphine became the replacement for cannabis in patients who needed pain relief.

So began the pharmaceutical industry’s war against cannabis. To date, they are among the top three industries that lobby against marijuana legalization in the U.S. The other two are the police/prison industry and alcohol manufacturers.

 

From my perspective, politics, greed (profits) are behind many of the calls for bans on alcohol or cannabis, as well as the inevitable fear mongering & fake news. 

 

Used in moderation - if at all - both would seem to probably pose an acceptable risk. However, many people cannot use them in moderation. And a lot of people blame their crimes & mis-behaviour on alcohol & cannabis, not themselves.

 

I thought a Buddhist country like Thailand might encourage education & moderation. After all, as far as I know, the Buddha is also known as the Middle Path – where one neither lives too extravagantly, nor too frugally. Extravagance implies selfishness and hedonism. And frugality leads to a short and useless life. In other words, Buddhism is about moderation.

 

But what would I know.

 

Again apologies for the length of this reply.

[connda]

19 hours ago, Snig27 said:

From the story:

 

Not a word from these dishonest hypocritical bunch of clowns on the vast death toll every year from alcohol, not least on the roads. Complete silence.

Do they have any idea how much ganja was being smoked daily before the decriminalisation and how much damage that was doing to countless lives as people were criminalised? These so-called medical professionals should be stripped of their practising certificates.

Since legalization I've seem Thai men staggering down the road.  Oh wait.  No that's not pot - that's booze.  The doctors are on a Reefer Madness campaign.  I agree.  If they want to target something that negatively impacts society,  target booze.

[MrMuddle]

On 9/20/2022 at 5:00 AM, AsianAtHeart said:

Regarding the years, was going off of memory and didn't look it up: correction accepted.

 

Regarding the effects of marijuana, I had earlier addressed its effects on the mind, and later was addressing its effects on crime.  Surely you can still see the distinction between these two, can't you?  or have you already smoked too much marijuana?

Correction accepted? Be careful you don't fall off that high horse.
Poor attempt at a retort. I don't smoke, anything.

[marcusb]

 They didn't sign anything based on personal or scientific beliefs, they were told to sign so they did. Its Thailand, its all political. 

[JayClay]

On 9/19/2022 at 9:43 PM, AsianAtHeart said:

There's a difference between alcohol and marijuana.  Alcohol is much easier to produce illegally.

Yes. Which is why, until the relaxing of laws on marijuana consumption, it was virtually impossible to get hold of the stuff.... ????

[1sickpuppy]

On 9/20/2022 at 6:44 AM, RichardColeman said:

I'd prefer any sort of advice from a medical person than someone smoking or promoting weed - my opinion