If the worse happens in the war, what happens in Thailand?

[Jingthing]

Why would workers even show up at banks and stores?

To be paid in worthless cash?

So there would be nationwide looting. Not sure if the government would shoot them or not. 

[Fat is a type of crazy]

These Final Hours is a good 2013 Australian take on the final days. Some go for the big final party, some just freak out, some look to do some good as pointless as it may be. Netflix. 

[NoshowJones]

On 10/8/2022 at 10:31 AM, toofarnorth said:

We stood quite still 'till we see their faces well then we opened up our muskets and we really gave them hell.     A song from when I was about 13. Lonnie Donegan.

The original was Johnny Horton. Sorry for going off topic JT.

[NoshowJones]

22 hours ago, twizzian said:

If Europe and USA are obliterated, the good news is…

No more 90 day reporting and 800k per year retirement ext. 

Even if a became a billionaire overnight I would not put 800.000bBt in a Thai bank or give the unelected PM and his sleeping partner the money for his thieving Elite visa.

[NoshowJones]

21 hours ago, swm59nj said:

I sincerely doubt nuclear war is going to happen in the near future. 
And if Putin did attack  the West , I doubt very much that Thailand itself would be involved.  Unless the nuclear fallout happens to travel into Thailand 

Maybe that is what Jingthing is actually asking.  "Unless the nuclear fallout happens to travel into Thailand".  Will it? 

[Neeranam]

19 hours ago, portlandtree said:

Yes true but pootin is a unpredictable psycho manic then again they’ll refuse his nuclear order and terminate him 

He will not start a nuclear war. 

He is not a Psycho, don't believe what you read about him in the US propaganda media.

Why should the US be allowed to invade Iraq, and many other countries but Putin not allowed to invade 1 country?

It's OK for the UK to invade other countries, but not Russia?

 

 

 

 

[Jingthing]

27 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

Maybe that is what Jingthing is actually asking.  "Unless the nuclear fallout happens to travel into Thailand".  Will it? 

Full nuclear war means nuclear winter here.

Obviously one or a few tactical nukes in the war region wouldn't be a fallout issue here.

The premise here is about full nuclear war MAD where Russia, Europe, and North America are wiped out.

Edited October 9, 2022 by Jingthing

[Fat is a type of crazy]

39 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

He will not start a nuclear war. 

He is not a Psycho, don't believe what you read about him in the US propaganda media.

Why should the US be allowed to invade Iraq, and many other countries but Putin not allowed to invade 1 country?

It's OK for the UK to invade other countries, but not Russia?

 

 

 

 

Just invade, murder, and pillage in one country and people get upset. Just one country's people being killed and their lives turned upside down. Why all the hate? You know you can criticise America's different but past issues too. Surely you can do better than this. Off topic so delete if necessary.  

Edited October 9, 2022 by Fat is a type of crazy

[Mac Mickmanus]

30 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Full nuclear war means nuclear winter here.

Obviously one or a few tactical nukes in the war region wouldn't be a fallout issue here.

The premise here is about full nuclear war MAD where Russia, Europe, and North America are wiped out.

Maybe be a good time now to head back to Central America ?

[Hummin]

20 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Just invade, murder, and pillage in one country and people get upset. Just one country's people being killed and their lives turned upside down. Why all the hate? You know you can criticise America's different but past issues too. Surely you can do better than this. Off topic so delete if necessary.  

Everyone had a reason for invading, and the plans for invasion was made up long time ahead of the actual invasion, and also told and warned long time ahead it would come to a point where they would invade. Nothing was new this time, and protocol was followed. Right or wrong, we where warned

Edited October 9, 2022 by Hummin

[Neeranam]

7 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Just invade, murder, and pillage in one country and people get upset. Just one country's people being killed and their lives turned upside down. Why all the hate? You know you can criticise America's different but past issues too. Surely you can do better than this. Off topic so delete if necessary.  

My point is that it's OK for one country to do it but not another. 

Take the UK, they've invaded or been at war with over 170 countries, yet Russia do it and all hell breaks loose. 

Did you do think the Bush Blair war was just? There's no difference now, apart from you believe the propoganda by CNN BBC. 

It sucks what Biden had done to stir up this war, how the US benefits and the rest of the world suffer. 

Get out now and less lives will be lost in Ukraine when they accept occupation. 

 

[Neeranam]

13 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Maybe be a good time now to head back to Central America ?

Why, its safer here. 

 

Incredible how the woke West could start a nuclear war by getting involved in a conflict which has nothing to do with them. 

[Mac Mickmanus]

Just now, Neeranam said:

Why, its safer here. 

 

Incredible how the woke West could start a nuclear war by getting involved in a conflict which has nothing to do with them. 

That depends on where "here" is 

[Bkk Brian]

20 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

My point is that it's OK for one country to do it but not another. 

Take the UK, they've invaded or been at war with over 170 countries, yet Russia do it and all hell breaks loose. 

Did you do think the Bush Blair war was just? There's no difference now, apart from you believe the propoganda by CNN BBC. 

It sucks what Biden had done to stir up this war, how the US benefits and the rest of the world suffer. 

Get out now and less lives will be lost in Ukraine when they accept occupation. 

 

This is not about Blair, or Bush or would you also like to bring in Stalin and Hitler? 

[KhunLA]

 

UK/RU are far away.  NO worries.  Already in a 'prepper's' state of mind.

 

World economies and failed policies really don't affect us.

 

No plan is a plan for failure ????

 

Edited October 9, 2022 by KhunLA

[DezLez]

10 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

As long as they all nuke each other during wet season, we're good. 

 

 

Even dry season wouldn't be much of a bother.   UK/RU are far away.  Since not raining, the nuke particles, if making it this far, might just float out to sea overhead.

Where did you make this rubbish up from?

[Walker88]

9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

1/ I very much doubt the decision to use nuclear weapons is Putin's alone ( as is the case { I sincerely hope } with such in any nuclear armed country ).

 

2/ If it actually did happen, would the Americans choose to escalate to MAD? I for one very much doubt that.

 

3/ Ukraine is not in NATO and there is zero requirement for NATO to respond in kind.

 

 

 

russia is not the US. putin has absolute authority to launch. The only safe  guard is if someone puts a bullet in his head. There is a time to be a Pollyanna and a time to be a Cassandra. This is the later.

 

The US would not escalate, but any use of a nuke would put everyone on edge. Mistakes happen. russians could view a wayward aircraft as an incoming attack, then launch their ICBMs. Obviously the US would respond in kind.

 

The key points that put this as a 15% chance of an extinction level event is that 1) putin is crazy, 2) he has absolute authority, and 3) any use of a nuke would make mistakes much more likely.

 

In 1982 russia almost launched their ICBMs because of a misread on a rocket test. One mid-level russian commander stopped it. Otherwise we'd already be extinct.

[Hummin]

10 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

russia is not the US. putin has absolute authority to launch. The only safe  guard is if someone puts a bullet in his head. There is a time to be a Pollyanna and a time to be a Cassandra. This is the later.

 

The US would not escalate, but any use of a nuke would put everyone on edge. Mistakes happen. russians could view a wayward aircraft as an incoming attack, then launch their ICBMs. Obviously the US would respond in kind.

 

The key points that put this as a 15% chance of an extinction level event is that 1) putin is crazy, 2) he has absolute authority, and 3) any use of a nuke would make mistakes much more likely.

 

In 1982 russia almost launched their ICBMs because of a misread on a rocket test. One mid-level russian commander stopped it. Otherwise we'd already be extinct.

Use nukes against Ukraine, would be using nukes against themselves. If Nukes going to be used, it have to be targets further away from Russia, and therefor not used at all 

[Sparktrader]

3 hours ago, possum1931 said:

As far as I'm aware, Putin is not in the best of health, suppose his health worsens and he has not got long to live, can Russia start nuking countries on his say so only? Or does anyone else have the power to over rule him? I am sure if Biden decided to be the first to start nuking there are those who would over rule him.

The army does the job not some old lost the plot guy.

[KhunLA]

21 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Use nukes against Ukraine, would be using nukes against themselves. If Nukes going to be used, it have to be targets further away from Russia, and therefor not used at all 

Yep ... it's amazing anyone actually thinks any country w/nukes would use them.  It would be the end of themselves, economically, if not starting WWIII, which isn't profitable for anyone.

 

And profit is all that matters.  The MSM's push for nuclear war BS is profitable enough.  Defense contractors are racking in the $$$.  Doom & Gloom always sells.  Same people that control the MSM, control the politician, control & profit with the arms race.  SELL SELL SELL

 

Hard to believe people really are that stupid ... a nuke war ????

[Rocking Robert]

Stock up on your AR15,9 mm ,shotgun about 4000 rounds for each

[Rocking Robert]

On 10/8/2022 at 9:28 AM, Walker88 said:

Since no meteorologists, nuke scientists, weapons experts or physicians with expertise in radiation disease are going to show up, I will post an opinion from a former intel officer.

 

putin: As many will guess, putin is a psychopath. He is also a coward, and he has a painful insecurity complex. He's a little man in the manly way, just like 45 in the US (remember what Stormy said: "Not freakishly small, but well below average"). It is the source of his insecurity. The two guys are the same, the only difference being that russia is more open to autocracy and an absolute dictator, which is what 45 would like for himself.

 

putin is losing face now. The russian military and fighting men, once believed to be formidable, have been shown to be poorly trained, poorly equipped, disorganized, poorly led, with shoddy equipment, and simply weak. Calling up mobilized forces won't help. putin cannot even adequately supply the forces he has now, and recruits are not likely to be motivated. His mobilized forces will represent a Turkey Shoot for Ukrainian patriots.

 

putin will thus lose more face.

 

If up to putin he will use a tactical nuke, at least on Kyiv. It will be up to Naryshkin or a sane general or two to stop him. 50-50 they can succeed. If they succeed, putin is dead and the war ends. If they fail, Kyiv is dead.

 

West Response:  The US will move incredible amounts of weapons into NATO border nations as well as to the surviving military forces in Ukraine. Some of those Ukrainian forces will attack wherever they can reach in russia. They will start killing russian civilians en masse.

 

Every conceivable sanction against russia and russians will be imposed. The UK govt will retake Mayfair and Kensington. Sports teams will be seized. The remaining non-seized yachts will be seized, and yachts in supposed safe havens will be destroyed by SEAL teams. All banks accounts owned by russians will be seized, even in Switzerland. putin's girlfriend in Switzerland will be assassinated.

 

Around the world all russians will be fair game. They will be slaughtered en masse, whether they support the war or not. So many will be killed that law enforcement won't even bother to investigate; in fact, they will join in. Everywhere, including in Thailand, where there is ample stock of prey. Killing russians will become a fad. The threat of nuclear holocaust will have an effect on mass psychology, so while it might seem unthinkable that people will begin killing russians for sport, our worst instincts will come to the surface, driven by the prospect of total human annihilation.

 

The pain inside russia will be so severe that even his protectors and bodyguards will turn against him. He will get something between the Mussolini Treatment and the Qaddafi Treatment.

 

russian forces inside Ukraine, few of whom wanted to be there anyway, and who have been shown to be a paper tiger force wildly inferior to the highly motivated and organized Ukrainians, will abandon their weapons and try as best they can to get home before Ukrainians butcher them.

 

The West will not have to respond with nukes, because one tactical nuke used by putin will set off this chain reaction that will lead to his execution by his own people.

Now why did you have to bring in the greatest President the ???????? USA has ever had do you still allow him to live in your head rent free it must be scary for you

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, Rocking Robert said:

Now why did you have to bring in the greatest President the ???????? USA has ever had do you still allow him to live in your head rent free it must be scary for you

The worst one.

[Jingthing]

45 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Use nukes against Ukraine, would be using nukes against themselves. If Nukes going to be used, it have to be targets further away from Russia, and therefor not used at all 

Putin's dying anyway.  

[Jingthing]

17 minutes ago, Rocking Robert said:

Stock up on your AR15,9 mm ,shotgun about 4000 rounds for each

Eat what you shoot?

[DezLez]

1 hour ago, Walker88 said:

putin has absolute authority to launch.

 

1 hour ago, Walker88 said:

One mid-level russian commander stopped it.

Either he has absolute authority or the mid-level commander has!

Which one is it?

[Hummin]

14 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Putin's dying anyway.  

How? Somehow Putins inner circle must crack, because all of them will be charged as responsible for the war crimes, so one general with a bullit is not enough, but a well managed coup to bring those out of control. 
 

I believe most russians who have power agree with Putins reasons for the war. Donbass and the other regions with russians did suffer and they are strategic important regions for russia. Now they can not afford to loose. 
 

It is a much bigger game here than most is willing to admit. If you poke someone long enough you will sooner or later get response. 
 

It is very much  quite simular to Iran Irak war, where two neighbours where forced to war on behalf of bigger interests. 
 

And Im sorry we are not allowed to discuss important previous historical happenings, and see the similarities and results repeat itself over and over. At the end innocent people dies, and those responsible  risk nothing. Saddam was just another tool they could sacrifice for good reasons. 

Edited October 9, 2022 by Hummin

[Walker88]

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

Use nukes against Ukraine, would be using nukes against themselves. If Nukes going to be used, it have to be targets further away from Russia, and therefor not used at all 

A low yield nuke wouldn't affect russia. Something Hiroshima sized....it would destroy Kyiv but not spread radioactivity very far.

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, Walker88 said:

A low yield nuke wouldn't affect russia. Something Hiroshima sized....it would destroy Kyiv but not spread radioactivity very far.

Well, I can agree on a tactical smaller bomb, but then it is just another potent bomb if ask me, and will be used for more fear mongering against russia. So which side do you think would win that propaganda war? Are russians so formed by the propaganda now, that they are willing to accept their leaders use it against their own people? Russians and Ukraines is pr definition both in blood and cultural. Compared to many other countries, one of the more alike homogeneous same people just with a border between them that have been changing for thousands of years. 

[Walker88]

32 minutes ago, DezLez said:

 

Either he has absolute authority or the mid-level commander has!

Which one is it?

putin was not dictator in 1982. He was a first tour KGB case officer. Things changed as he consolidated his power.