How much do the average Thai person earn ?

[nigelforbes]

  On 10/19/2022 at 7:29 AM, BangkokReady said:

So less than 13K per month to put a kid through uni?  Or were there other sources of income going to him?

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I'm helping put our niece through Uni. in Phitsonaluk. She got a government loan (as most people from poor rural backgrounds do) which has to be repaid on low interest rates starting two years after she graduates. I pay for her on campus accommodation of 18k per year plus I send her 7k a month for expenses. I believe the government loan is for 65k per semester x 2 semesters per year for 4 years.

[FritsSikkink]

  On 10/19/2022 at 1:09 AM, KhunBENQ said:

This 350k number for a company employee per month!!!?

Even in management.

What a joke. 

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Not a joke, high management for big companies.

[KhunLA]

  On 10/19/2022 at 7:32 AM, Kwasaki said:

Exactly and funny because they hired a college girl looking for a secretary job who couldn't get companies to employ her because she had no experience. 

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Is that different than any other country.  Know when I got some paperwork behind me, without experience, I had to work in that industry, entry level, at damn near minimum wage, at my first job.  

 

Got my experience, and moved on, to 3 more companies, all with more responsibilities or pay/bennies or both.

 

Everybody wants to start out at top position with top pay, but accept the reality, of crawling before walking, or stay unemployed, and think of excuses for your failures.

 

'Nobody hired me as CEO because I didn't have experience'

[FritsSikkink]

  On 10/19/2022 at 1:14 AM, BonMot said:

I can also tell you and inform TV that I had a student that I worked with on international scholarships circa 2017.

 

Her mother radiologist and father epidemiologist and the combined income was 70k. She government hospital and he government employed. No idea income or side jobs.

 

I think Thais make far less than we imagine that's the magic of the economy.... Depressed wages

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She needs to work for a private company then: Oncologist Radiation Salary Bangkok, Thailand - SalaryExpert

[CharlieH]

  On 10/19/2022 at 7:36 AM, nigelforbes said:

I'm helping put our niece through Uni. in Phitsonaluk. She got a government loan (as most people from poor rural backgrounds do) which has to be repaid on low interest rates starting two years after she graduates. I pay for her on campus accommodation of 18k per year plus I send her 7k a month for expenses. I believe the government loan is for 65k per semester x 2 semesters per year for 4 years.

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Whilst I dont doubt you, there seems something off here. she gets 18k a month ? as a student when people working dont even get to 15k ? 

[Ralf001]

  On 10/19/2022 at 7:20 AM, Peterw42 said:

not sure of deposit, repayments are around 8k a month

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So less than 50% of their combined income.

[FritsSikkink]

  On 10/19/2022 at 2:14 AM, scorecard said:

Some = very few, can count on one hand.

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A lot more than that

[KhunBENQ]

  On 10/19/2022 at 7:37 AM, FritsSikkink said:

Not a joke, high management for big companies.

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I don't call this "average Thai person" and not even upper class.

 

 

[nigelforbes]

  On 10/19/2022 at 7:40 AM, CharlieH said:

Whilst I dont doubt you, there seems something off here. she gets 18k a month ? as a student when people working dont even get to 15k ? 

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I'm sorry I wasn't more clear, the government loan pays the University fees, she doesn't see any of that.

[Peterw42]

  On 10/19/2022 at 7:40 AM, Ralf001 said:

So less than 50% of their combined income.

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Yes, but that's probably no different to young kids buying their first place in western countries, one wage services the mortgage.

[Ralf001]

  On 10/19/2022 at 7:46 AM, Peterw42 said:

Yes, but that's probably no different to young kids buying their first place in western countries, one wage services the mortgage.

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True that.

 

To me the thought of committing 50% of the household income to service the mortgage for the next 20 possibly 30+ years is downright scary !!

[CharlieH]

  On 10/19/2022 at 7:45 AM, nigelforbes said:

I'm sorry I wasn't more clear, the government loan pays the University fees, she doesn't see any of that.

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Ok, thanks, all I can say is my niece recently finished at Phitlok, and her figures were nowhere even close to those figures. She didnt take anything from the Govt either. She also got herself a part time job to help and not borrow anything. What I found unfair was having finished Uni and got her papers etc, the job she now has pays 12k !! which I think after 4 years work is pitiful.

[Ralf001]

  On 10/19/2022 at 7:50 AM, CharlieH said:

Ok, thanks, all I can say is my niece recently finished at Phitlok, and her figures were nowhere even close to those figures. She didnt take anything from the Govt either. She also got herself a part time job to help and not borrow anything. What I found unfair was having finished Uni and got her papers etc, the job she now has pays 12k !! which I think after 4 years work is pityful.

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Her 4 years "work" equals zero actual "on the job skills" though, and that is what drives the low starting wage.

[Kwasaki]

  On 10/19/2022 at 7:29 AM, BangkokReady said:

So less than 13K per month to put a kid through uni?  Or were there other sources of income going to him?

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Probably that is all I remember my wallet being raided for. 

 

Accommodation and food about 7000 a month. 

6 monthly payments to Bangkok University of around 35 - 37,000 per term. 

 

There some extras for supplying some equipment.

 

I remember he wanted a camera and I still had my Olympus OM30 35mm camera and rolls of film. 

He was moaning about it but when he showed it to his teacher tutor whatever you call them,  the tutor said thats the proper camera way to learn with all manual settings which you have set the camera up to get a good picture. 

Saved me some. ????

[nigelforbes]

  On 10/19/2022 at 7:50 AM, CharlieH said:

Ok, thanks, all I can say is my niece recently finished at Phitlok, and her figures were nowhere even close to those figures. She didnt take anything from the Govt either. She also got herself a part time job to help and not borrow anything. What I found unfair was having finished Uni and got her papers etc, the job she now has pays 12k !! which I think after 4 years work is pityful.

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Interesting, can you recall what your nieces numbers were, it will interesting to compare notes to understand the differences? Our niece is studying Computer Engineering which is a 4 year program. We have told her that she doesn't need to get a job during the first year until she finds her feet and better understand how easy or hard the course will be - so far the calculus is proving difficult. I am 99% certain that the on campus accommodation is 17.5k per year, that's four in a dorm with aircon. The monthly spending money is also accurate since that's what I transfer to her and my wife monitors spending and tops up and pays for specials as needed. I'm less certain about the government Uni. fees which I will verify and report back.

 

Reporting Back! I was way off on the Uni fees, the government loan is for 17k per term times two terms per year for four years (don't know where the 65k x 2 came from, sorry).

[Kenny202]

  On 10/19/2022 at 3:48 AM, CrunchWrapSupreme said:

I concur with most of the figures here. A vast number of Thais make the minimum 7-11 salary of 9k baht a month. A secretary at one of my former schools made this. A primary school teacher in my village makes this. Members of my extended fam in the BKK service industry make this.

 

A vast number of Thais make even less, as said, by selling food in the markets or around the villages. It's why you see many shops selling in bulk, bags of snacks, packs of sausages and meatballs, cases of sodas, and stacks of the cups and lids to serve them in ice with. It's a huge part of their employment base, though shouldn't be, as they ought to be doing more meaningful work, yet it isn't there.

 

Indeed, most teachers make around 15k, then could move up to 40-50k with seniority. And as discussed in another thread, much of this is subject to corruption. Upon hiring they're informed that the privilege of this sought after govt position comes with a monthly salary cut for the school director. Or it could come upfront, as the 9k teacher in my village wasn't able to find a position, until her dad finally coughed up 100k baht for it to appear.

 

But, why pay 100k to only get 9k back a month? And why are the teachers often seen with new cars, big houses, and latest iPhones? Ah, that's because the esteemed govt position also comes with an unofficial extra salary, the special govt loans they're allowed to keep taking out, and get into massive debt with.

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That's right, usually after uni a qualified teacher can not go and work for the government. They need to sit a test first (even though they were govt educated and graduated) to qualify. This entails usually circa 200k up "tuition" fee to sit the test. Absolute disgrace. So the teacher could be a gem but of they can't stump up the money to pass the test they will work in a private / nursery school for 8-12k per month. The govt actually subsidizes the teachers employment but this is usually skimmed by the principal. How they account in these schools I will never know. It's like any money saved or rorted goes directly in the back pocket 

[bkk6060]

Lots of Bangkok Thais the lobby is jammed pulling at the new Space hotel in Naklua paying 5k to 10k a night for hotel rooms.

I see the average being around 15 to 18 k.  Many however, seem to be around or under that.

Most if the Univ. grads will not be able to find a decent job at this time.

If I was a female and decent looking, I would seek a job in the entertainment industry.

[scorecard]

  On 10/19/2022 at 7:43 AM, FritsSikkink said:

A lot more than that

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OK, 3 hands.

[Kwasaki]

  On 10/19/2022 at 7:39 AM, KhunLA said:

Is that different than any other country.  Know when I got some paperwork behind me, without experience, I had to work in that industry, entry level, at damn near minimum wage, at my first job.  

 

Got my experience, and moved on, to 3 more companies, all with more responsibilities or pay/bennies or both.

 

Everybody wants to start out at top position with top pay, but accept the reality, of crawling before walking, or stay unemployed, and think of excuses for your failures.

 

'Nobody hired me as CEO because I didn't have experience'

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You miss the point I'm making as to why my son employed her. 

[stoner]

  On 10/19/2022 at 12:47 AM, Iamfalang said:

I've helped Thais to the tune of about 10,000 per year.    It's not great, but I can guarantee it's WAY more than most falangs.

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the whitest knight ever. a whole 10k per year. 

[Dan O]

  On 10/19/2022 at 2:44 AM, Kwasaki said:

I guess they do get free food and She likes her Big'C' job her husband works away a lot and earns good money and he pays all the household bills so it's pocket money and company for her. 

 

Many don't work in our village and get money from the govt, have 2 brother in-laws and a sister in-law who do nowt because they get money from the govt.

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And how much do they get from the govt, next to nothing? I challenge you or others to live on that or the minimum wage most get and then write a post on how well you're doing

[Sparktrader]

  On 10/19/2022 at 9:04 AM, Dan O said:

And how much do they get from the govt, next to nothing? I challenge you or others to live on that or the minimum wage most get and then write a post on how well you're doing

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Be gone in 3 days

[Sparktrader]

  On 10/19/2022 at 7:50 AM, CharlieH said:

Ok, thanks, all I can say is my niece recently finished at Phitlok, and her figures were nowhere even close to those figures. She didnt take anything from the Govt either. She also got herself a part time job to help and not borrow anything. What I found unfair was having finished Uni and got her papers etc, the job she now has pays 12k !! which I think after 4 years work is pitiful.

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Yes just above 7 /11

[Dart12]

Here's an actual job listing site and salaries offered for various jobs and career positions in Pattaya https://www.pattayajobcentre.com/

[scorecard]

  On 10/19/2022 at 2:29 AM, owl sees all said:

Do they get free food? Have to factor that in. Three meals a day. Must be worth 90 baht a day?

 

The ladies in our local Big C food hall all seem to be happy souls. Big money don't always make you happy.

 

I buy my chicken-foot soup from one stall. Three big bags of soup for 40 baht. That does me for six meals.

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Worth a quick mention, it's illegal (same in many countries) for employers to ask or to allow employees to work 7 days a week.

 

Been discussed many time before re security companies owned by army officers, part of the deal (illegal) is 7 days a week. 

[bbi1]

  On 10/18/2022 at 5:27 PM, JeffersLos said:

Thai spouse and siblings (most are settled in Bangkok) earn between 150,000-350,000THB per month. 

 

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I think you added one too many zeros ????????

[Kwasaki]

  On 10/19/2022 at 9:04 AM, Dan O said:

And how much do they get from the govt, next to nothing? I challenge you or others to live on that or the minimum wage most get and then write a post on how well you're doing

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Just because you know little about how poor people manage,  it is silly to challenge me you surely know i would not want to live like that and couldn't I'm not Thai. 

 

They have no choice and don't do well and go without in some cases whether self inflicted or from an accident or wore out parts of the body. 

 

They can get 2 free meals a day at the village temple if they want. 

B.I.L. gets 800 baht a month because unable to work.

S.I.L. gets 700 + 400+ 300 to buy rice. 

Their electric bills are usually free because they use 5/15 and little electric.

My wife pays for their water. 

My wife's family another 2 brothers and sister bring food as well. 

The eldest sister gets 800 baht from govt and works in my wife's cafe' restaurant with my wife's great nephew who we put through college to be a Chef and cannot get a job yet because he has no experience. ????

[owl sees all]

  On 10/19/2022 at 9:52 AM, Kwasaki said:

Just because you know little about how poor people manage,  it is silly to challenge me you surely know i would not want to live like that and couldn't I'm not Thai. 

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If I were on my own, I could live for 2,400 baht a month. at the farm.

 

[Kwasaki]

  On 10/19/2022 at 9:59 AM, owl sees all said:

If I were on my own, I could live for 2,400 baht a month. at the farm.

 

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I believe you could but unlike Thais you need 800,000baht in the bank or the other methods. ????

I like to do road trips on my bike and i like a beer.

My farmhouse has fridge and night light and is zero per month  unless i use the air-con.

My village house is another story but still cheap living. 

[KhunLA]

  On 10/19/2022 at 9:59 AM, owl sees all said:

If I were on my own, I could live for 2,400 baht a month. at the farm.

 

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I could do it on 5k a month, non farm.  Though that would be pretty basic.  Actually all I would need for food, 150 a day, as would be my only mandatory bill.  Amazing when you think about it.