Jingthing Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) It's worth mentioning that hate speech is legal in the U.S. anyway but that doesn't mean that it is free of personal responsibility consequences. Kanye has said he now intends to buy Parler social media platform which has very free speech and is notorious for featuring the most extreme forms of right wing hate speech. He is free to do that if he can still afford it. But he doesn't control whether a company like Adidas chooses to break ties with him or not. Kanye West is buying ‘free speech platform’ Parler - The Verge Edited October 26, 2022 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 13 hours ago, JonnyF said: Adidas are probably better off without him although I have friends who swear that Yeezy model is the comfiest shoe ever. I recall reading the estimated loss for Adidas from this cancellation is 250 million annually, for Ye estimated loss 200 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffersLos Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Jingthing said: Making it even more acceptable for already antisemitic people to be more open about it and to express it which means more hate crimes including violent ones such as Synagogue attacks. He was very publicly fired from a role earning him millions. Your rant is based on nothing but fantasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, JeffersLos said: He was very publicly fired from a role earning him millions. Your rant is based on nothing but fantasy. As I suspected. It appears my hunch about the toxic intentions of your "question" was well founded. Sigh. https://news.yahoo.com/kanye-wests-fame-gives-unrepentant-120005229.html Kanye West's celebrity gives his brazen antisemitism a more toxic power, reach As the United States increasingly grapples with racist and bigoted rhetoric entering the mainstream — accompanied by a rise in hate crimes, the extremism has tended to come from the margins of political life. But for the last few weeks, a series of antisemitic and conspiracy-soaked rants has emerged not from dark corners of the internet, but from one of America's most renowned rap artists and fashion icons: Kanye West. The ugly, unrepentant nature of the comments by West, who now goes by Ye, present challenges in fighting hate, experts said. Edited October 26, 2022 by Jingthing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Where is the line between freedom of speech and whatever it was that he said? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 As is obvious the significance of MAGA loving Kanye's antisemitism is because of his massive public profile, the same can be said of the antisemitism of Donald Trump. No, not as undeniably explicit as Kanye's rhetoric but interestingly, he hasn't faced ANY consequences for it. In case you haven't followed this, recently he threatened American Jews that don't embrace MAGA (the overwhelming majority of them) as needing to become MAGA "before it's too late." Donald Trump Is an Antisemite and Republicans Are Totally Cool With It (yahoo.com) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mac Mickmanus Posted October 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jingthing said: As is obvious the significance of MAGA loving Kanye's antisemitism is because of his massive public profile, the same can be said of the antisemitism of Donald Trump. No, not as undeniably explicit as Kanye's rhetoric but interestingly, he hasn't faced ANY consequences for it. In case you haven't followed this, recently he threatened American Jews that don't embrace MAGA (the overwhelming majority of them) as needing to become MAGA "before it's too late." Donald Trump Is an Antisemite and Republicans Are Totally Cool With It (yahoo.com) Come on, try and forget about Trump , this is about Kayne West . You know, any given story, try and find a link to Trump and then go on a rant about Trump , try and forget about him 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 23 minutes ago, Gweiloman said: Where is the line between freedom of speech and whatever it was that he said? His freedom of speech hasn't been curtailed , he can still say whatever he likes . Adidas also can choose to either work with him or not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) Now Footlocker has severed with Kanye. No longer a billionaire. Well deserved consequences but of course what Kanye is going to do is play that he is the victim here even though he did this to himself. He'll blame the Jews which is his play now. I don't know if he's really bipolar or not but I do know it's a complicated ailment. Apparently he is now blaming Jews for the diagnosis which I guess might mean he thinks he doesn't suffer from being bipolar, but he definitely suffers from being an antisemite. An important distinction to keep in mind. Say you have a bad experience with a Jewish whatever for doing you wrong. That's rational to blame individual people for perceived mistreatment. But it's very different to blame the collective Jews (or any other group) for your personal woes, which is obviously ignorant and hateful. Edited October 26, 2022 by Jingthing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 Brands have dumped Kanye West. What about his music career? New York CNN Business — Ye — formerly known as Kanye West — has lost partnerships with fashion brands including Gap, Balenciaga and Adidas following his antisemitic comments in recent weeks. Now, questions remain about the business that helped propel Ye onto the fashion scene in the first place: Music. Since 2004’s “The College Dropout” — his critically acclaimed and commercially successful debut album — Ye has been one of the most popular and notable artists in the world. He has had countless hits and 10 number-one albums, according to Billboard. But all of that could be at risk due to the performer’s recent behavior and comments. https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/26/media/ye-kanye-west-music-career/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 7 hours ago, stevenl said: I recall reading the estimated loss for Adidas from this cancellation is 250 million annually, for Ye estimated loss 200 million. Cutting the partnership means Adidas will make a net loss of £217m in 2022 As for Ye, he's lost his position in Forbes magazine's list of billionaires. It estimates that the loss of the Adidas partnership cuts Ye's net worth from $1.5bn to $400m (£1.3bn to £349m). https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-63402562 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scott Posted October 26, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 26, 2022 Kanye West escorted out of Skechers 1 day after Adidas ends Yeezy deal Kanye West showed up unannounced to Skechers corporate offices on Wednesday in Manhattan Beach, Calif., one day after Adidas terminated its multimillion dollar partnership with the rapper. Skechers issued a statement saying the company has no plans to collaborate with West. "Skechers is not considering and has no intention of working with West. We condemn his recent divisive remarks and do not tolerate antisemitism or any other form of hate speech," a rep for Skechers tells Yahoo Entertainment. "The Company would like to again stress that West showed up unannounced and uninvited to Skechers corporate offices." https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/kanye-west-skechers-adidas-yeezy-antisemitism-221430991.html 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyinBangrak Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Look at the media jackals all piling on Kanye. And BAM, just like that, mental illness is now a mock-able trait, something to use to poke fun and ridicule at the sufferer. A shameful episode really. Why have his closest friends and family not been able to get him the help he needs? This reflects worse on Adidas than West, if they were a good moral company they would help West in his time of need, not publicly virtue signal by firing him over a psychotic episode. Just feeling sad about what society has become in this administration. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 8 hours ago, Gweiloman said: Where is the line between freedom of speech and whatever it was that he said? It’s in the terms of contract he signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Look at the media jackals all piling on Kanye. And BAM, just like that, mental illness is now a mock-able trait, something to use to poke fun and ridicule at the sufferer. A shameful episode really. Why have his closest friends and family not been able to get him the help he needs? This reflects worse on Adidas than West, if they were a good moral company they would help West in his time of need, not publicly virtue signal by firing him over a psychotic episode. Just feeling sad about what society has become in this administration. He's a Trump supporter, so he's fair game as far as the left are concerned. Mental illness or not, he needs to be ridiculed and cancelled as punishment for having the 'wrong' political beliefs. Meanwhile, they sweep news regarding anti-semitism/racism in their own ranks under the table. #bekind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Credo Posted October 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Look at the media jackals all piling on Kanye. And BAM, just like that, mental illness is now a mock-able trait, something to use to poke fun and ridicule at the sufferer. A shameful episode really. Why have his closest friends and family not been able to get him the help he needs? This reflects worse on Adidas than West, if they were a good moral company they would help West in his time of need, not publicly virtue signal by firing him over a psychotic episode. Just feeling sad about what society has become in this administration. I haven't seen anyone mocking his mental illness. Please show us who and where this is being done. If anything, he's been given a great deal of latitude because of his condition. Kanye has made it known that he was going to forego regular medication for more natural methods of dealing with it. Whether he has or not is unknown and it is privileged medical information. From all appearances, it seems that he is not taking medication. I am interested to know just what you think his friends and family can do. Their options are limited. They can try to get him hospitalized, but a good attorney is going to most likely keep him out of a psychiatric facility. He is rich and powerful, and those people live a much different life than the rest of us. Probably the best thing that can happen is that he start losing his sponsorships. He will have to realize his words are dangerous and that what and how he is saying is hurting others -- and himself. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted October 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Look at the media jackals all piling on Kanye. And BAM, just like that, mental illness is now a mock-able trait, something to use to poke fun and ridicule at the sufferer. A shameful episode really. Why have his closest friends and family not been able to get him the help he needs? This reflects worse on Adidas than West, if they were a good moral company they would help West in his time of need, not publicly virtue signal by firing him over a psychotic episode. Just feeling sad about what society has become in this administration. Please explain the connection between ‘this administration’ and the business decisions of a German corporation? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted October 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, JonnyF said: He's a Trump supporter, so he's fair game as far as the left are concerned. Mental illness or not, he needs to be ridiculed and cancelled as punishment for having the 'wrong' political beliefs. Meanwhile, they sweep news regarding anti-semitism/racism in their own ranks under the table. #bekind Where is he being ridiculed on the basis of his mental illness? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Of course some poster here know more than the experts apparently No, Ye's mental health does not excuse antisemitism, experts say In some cases, it's true that suffering from a manic episode can influence "aberrant behavior" that isn't indicative of one's general moral values. On the flip side, it can also expose suppressed personal beliefs. While knowing about Ye's bipolar diagnosis may help explain impulsive behavior or grandiose gestures, antisemitism is a reflection of toxic societal beliefs – one espoused by bigoted people without diagnosable mental illness. Assuming that bigotry, misogyny or antisemitism are symptoms of a mental health problem is a dangerous and ableist misconception https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2022/10/11/kanye-west-antisemitism-bipolar-disorder-mental-health/8235254001/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 15 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Look at the media jackals all piling on Kanye. And BAM, just like that, mental illness is now a mock-able trait, something to use to poke fun and ridicule at the sufferer. A shameful episode really. Why have his closest friends and family not been able to get him the help he needs? This reflects worse on Adidas than West, if they were a good moral company they would help West in his time of need, not publicly virtue signal by firing him over a psychotic episode. Just feeling sad about what society has become in this administration. Silencing/censorship of anyone, no matter who, speaks their mind if contrary to the mainstream elitist. Sending any 'conservative' thinking folks into the closet, as livelihoods at risk for challenging the puppet masters. “None so blind as those that will not see.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Where is he being ridiculed on the basis of his mental illness? Across social media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Across social media. Or so you tell us in your social media post on this social media platform. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, KhunLA said: Silencing/censorship of anyone, no matter who, speaks their mind if contrary to the mainstream elitist. Sending any 'conservative' thinking folks into the closet, as livelihoods at risk for challenging the puppet masters. “None so blind as those that will not see.” It’s a full on conspiracy. Or it’s just some guy running his mouth with hate and getting the payback all for himself. Not like the good old days, when hate begot consequences for the target of the hate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted October 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, KhunLA said: Silencing/censorship of anyone, no matter who, speaks their mind if contrary to the mainstream elitist. Sending any 'conservative' thinking folks into the closet, as livelihoods at risk for challenging the puppet masters. “None so blind as those that will not see.” So according to you "conservative' thinking folks" equates to hate speech and anti-semitism. Strange conclusion 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: It’s a full on conspiracy. Or it’s just some guy running his mouth with hate and getting the payback all for himself. Not like the good old days, when hate begot consequences for the target of the hate. MSM division / distraction tactics, as usual. Why it even makes the news is the only question. Oh wait, I just told you why. Hook line & sinker ... as he deficits continue to increase in all countries across the board, along with the wealth of the elite. “None so blind as those that will not see.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 minute ago, KhunLA said: MSM division / distraction tactics, as usual. Why it even makes the news is the only question. Oh wait, I just told you why. Hook line & sinker ... as he deficits continue to increase in all countries across the board, along with the wealth of the elite. “None so blind as those that will not see.” It makes the news because a guy just lost millions for spewing hate. But since you mentioned deficits continuing to increase, here a catch-up for you: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/21/us-budget-deficit-cut-in-half-for-biggest-decrease-ever-amid-covid-spending-declines.html 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, KhunLA said: MSM division / distraction tactics, as usual. Why it even makes the news is the only question. Oh wait, I just told you why. Hook line & sinker ... as he deficits continue to increase in all countries across the board, along with the wealth of the elite. “None so blind as those that will not see.” Doesn't it make the news because he himself puts it in the news with his constant interviews, self promotion and affiliated promotions? Looks like its all back fired on him eh. A Timeline of the Consequences Kanye West Has Faced for His ‘WLM’ Shirts & Antisemitic Hate Speech https://www.billboard.com/lists/kanye-west-hate-speech-consequences-timeline/celebrities-react-to-death-con-tweet/ No wonder he went begging for more promotion to sketchers but oops that's also back fired. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 23 hours ago, bendejo said: Can't they just cut off his tongue? They can make it a special form of punishment for rappers. Would anybody notice the difference ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Across social media. Links to where he's being mocked because of his bi polar? Edited October 27, 2022 by Bkk Brian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scott Posted October 27, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2022 Troll post and replies removed. When you purport something to be a fact then, yes, a link may be required to back it up. Some members make things up and expect everyone to accept it as gospel. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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