Adidas ends Ye deal over hate speech, costing rapper his billionaire status

[Jingthing]

It's worth mentioning that hate speech is legal in the U.S. anyway but that doesn't mean that it is free of personal responsibility consequences. 

Kanye has said he now intends to buy Parler social media platform which has very free speech and is notorious for featuring the most extreme forms of right wing hate speech. He is free to do that if he can still afford it. But he doesn't control whether a company like Adidas chooses to break ties with him or not.

Kanye West is buying ‘free speech platform’ Parler - The Verge

 

Edited October 26, 2022 by Jingthing

[stevenl]

13 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Adidas are probably better off without him although I have friends who swear that Yeezy model is the comfiest shoe ever.

I recall reading the estimated loss for Adidas from this cancellation is 250 million annually, for Ye estimated loss 200 million.

[JeffersLos]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Making it even more acceptable for already antisemitic people to be more open about it and to express it which means more hate crimes including violent ones such as Synagogue attacks.

He was very publicly fired from a role earning him millions. 

 

Your rant is based on nothing but fantasy. 

[Jingthing]

19 minutes ago, JeffersLos said:

He was very publicly fired from a role earning him millions. 

 

Your rant is based on nothing but fantasy. 

As I suspected. It appears my hunch about the toxic intentions of your "question" was well founded.

 

Sigh.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/kanye-wests-fame-gives-unrepentant-120005229.html

 

Kanye West's celebrity gives his brazen antisemitism a more toxic power, reach

 

 

As the United States increasingly grapples with racist and bigoted rhetoric entering the mainstream — accompanied by a rise in hate crimes, the extremism has tended to come from the margins of political life.

But for the last few weeks, a series of antisemitic and conspiracy-soaked rants has emerged not from dark corners of the internet, but from one of America's most renowned rap artists and fashion icons: Kanye West.

 

The ugly, unrepentant nature of the comments by West, who now goes by Ye, present challenges in fighting hate, experts said.

 

 

Edited October 26, 2022 by Jingthing

[Gweiloman]

Where is the line between freedom of speech and whatever it was that he said?

[Jingthing]

As is obvious the significance of MAGA loving Kanye's antisemitism is because of his massive public profile, the same can be said of the antisemitism of Donald Trump. No, not as undeniably explicit as Kanye's rhetoric but interestingly, he hasn't faced ANY consequences for it.

In case you haven't followed this, recently he threatened American Jews that don't embrace MAGA (the overwhelming majority of them) as needing to become MAGA "before it's too late."

 

 

Donald Trump Is an Antisemite and Republicans Are Totally Cool With It (yahoo.com)

[Mac Mickmanus]

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

As is obvious the significance of MAGA loving Kanye's antisemitism is because of his massive public profile, the same can be said of the antisemitism of Donald Trump. No, not as undeniably explicit as Kanye's rhetoric but interestingly, he hasn't faced ANY consequences for it.

In case you haven't followed this, recently he threatened American Jews that don't embrace MAGA (the overwhelming majority of them) as needing to become MAGA "before it's too late."

 

 

Donald Trump Is an Antisemite and Republicans Are Totally Cool With It (yahoo.com)

Come on, try and forget about Trump , this is about Kayne West .

You know, any given story, try and find a link to Trump and then go on a rant about Trump , try and forget about him 

[Mac Mickmanus]

23 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

Where is the line between freedom of speech and whatever it was that he said?

His freedom of speech hasn't been curtailed , he can still say whatever he likes .

   Adidas also can choose to either work with him or not

[Jingthing]

Now Footlocker has severed with Kanye.

No longer a billionaire.

Well deserved consequences but of course what Kanye is going to do is play that he is the victim here even though he did this to himself. He'll blame the Jews which is his play now. 

I don't know if he's really bipolar or not but I do know it's a complicated ailment. Apparently he is now blaming Jews for the diagnosis which I guess might mean he thinks he doesn't suffer from being bipolar, but he definitely suffers from being an antisemite.

 

An important distinction to keep in mind. Say you have a bad experience with a Jewish whatever for doing you wrong. That's rational to blame individual people for perceived mistreatment. But it's very different to blame the collective Jews (or any other group) for your personal woes, which is obviously ignorant and hateful.

Edited October 26, 2022 by Jingthing

[Scott]

Brands have dumped Kanye West. What about his music career?

 

New York CNN Business  — 

Ye — formerly known as Kanye West — has lost partnerships with fashion brands including Gap, Balenciaga and Adidas following his antisemitic comments in recent weeks. Now, questions remain about the business that helped propel Ye onto the fashion scene in the first place: Music.

Since 2004’s “The College Dropout” — his critically acclaimed and commercially successful debut album — Ye has been one of the most popular and notable artists in the world. He has had countless hits and 10 number-one albums, according to Billboard.

But all of that could be at risk due to the performer’s recent behavior and comments.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/26/media/ye-kanye-west-music-career/index.html

[Bkk Brian]

7 hours ago, stevenl said:

I recall reading the estimated loss for Adidas from this cancellation is 250 million annually, for Ye estimated loss 200 million.

Cutting the partnership means Adidas will make a net loss of £217m in 2022

As for Ye, he's lost his position in Forbes magazine's list of billionaires. It estimates that the loss of the Adidas partnership cuts Ye's net worth from $1.5bn to $400m (£1.3bn to £349m).

https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-63402562

[Scott]

Kanye West escorted out of Skechers 1 day after Adidas ends Yeezy deal

Kanye West showed up unannounced to Skechers corporate offices on Wednesday in Manhattan Beach, Calif., one day after Adidas terminated its multimillion dollar partnership with the rapper. Skechers issued a statement saying the company has no plans to collaborate with West.

 

"Skechers is not considering and has no intention of working with West. We condemn his recent divisive remarks and do not tolerate antisemitism or any other form of hate speech," a rep for Skechers tells Yahoo Entertainment. "The Company would like to again stress that West showed up unannounced and uninvited to Skechers corporate offices."

 

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/kanye-west-skechers-adidas-yeezy-antisemitism-221430991.html

[SunnyinBangrak]

Look at the media jackals all piling on Kanye. And BAM, just like that, mental illness is now a mock-able trait, something to use to poke fun and ridicule at the sufferer. A shameful episode really. Why have his closest friends and family not been able to get him the help he needs? This reflects worse on Adidas than West, if they were a good moral company they would help West in his time of need, not publicly virtue signal by firing him over a psychotic episode. Just feeling sad about what society has become in this administration.

[Chomper Higgot]

8 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

Where is the line between freedom of speech and whatever it was that he said?

It’s in the terms of contract he signed.

[JonnyF]

9 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Look at the media jackals all piling on Kanye. And BAM, just like that, mental illness is now a mock-able trait, something to use to poke fun and ridicule at the sufferer. A shameful episode really. Why have his closest friends and family not been able to get him the help he needs? This reflects worse on Adidas than West, if they were a good moral company they would help West in his time of need, not publicly virtue signal by firing him over a psychotic episode. Just feeling sad about what society has become in this administration.

He's a Trump supporter, so he's fair game as far as the left are concerned. Mental illness or not, he needs to be ridiculed and cancelled as punishment for having the 'wrong' political beliefs. Meanwhile, they sweep news regarding anti-semitism/racism in their own ranks under the table.

 

#bekind

[Credo]

4 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Look at the media jackals all piling on Kanye. And BAM, just like that, mental illness is now a mock-able trait, something to use to poke fun and ridicule at the sufferer. A shameful episode really. Why have his closest friends and family not been able to get him the help he needs? This reflects worse on Adidas than West, if they were a good moral company they would help West in his time of need, not publicly virtue signal by firing him over a psychotic episode. Just feeling sad about what society has become in this administration.

I haven't seen anyone mocking his mental illness.  Please show us who and where this is being done.  If anything, he's been given a great deal of latitude because of his condition.  Kanye has made it known that he was going to forego regular medication for more natural methods of dealing with it.  Whether he has or not is unknown and it is privileged medical information.  

 

From all appearances, it seems that he is not taking medication.  

 

I am interested to know just what you think his friends and family can do.   Their options are limited.  They can try to get him hospitalized, but a good attorney is going to most likely keep him out of a psychiatric facility.  He is rich and powerful, and those people live a much different life than the rest of us.   

 

Probably the best thing that can happen is that he start losing his sponsorships.  He will have to realize his words are dangerous and that what and how he is saying is hurting others -- and himself.   

[Chomper Higgot]

14 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Look at the media jackals all piling on Kanye. And BAM, just like that, mental illness is now a mock-able trait, something to use to poke fun and ridicule at the sufferer. A shameful episode really. Why have his closest friends and family not been able to get him the help he needs? This reflects worse on Adidas than West, if they were a good moral company they would help West in his time of need, not publicly virtue signal by firing him over a psychotic episode. Just feeling sad about what society has become in this administration.

Please explain the connection between ‘this administration’ and the business decisions of a German corporation? 
 

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

He's a Trump supporter, so he's fair game as far as the left are concerned. Mental illness or not, he needs to be ridiculed and cancelled as punishment for having the 'wrong' political beliefs. Meanwhile, they sweep news regarding anti-semitism/racism in their own ranks under the table.

 

#bekind

Where is he being ridiculed on the basis of his mental illness?

[Bkk Brian]

Of course some poster here know more than the experts apparently

 

No, Ye's mental health does not excuse antisemitism, experts say

In some cases, it's true that suffering from a manic episode can influence "aberrant behavior" that isn't indicative of one's general moral values. On the flip side, it can also expose suppressed personal beliefs. 

While knowing about Ye's bipolar diagnosis may help explain impulsive behavior or grandiose gestures, antisemitism is a reflection of toxic societal beliefs – one espoused by bigoted people without diagnosable mental illness. Assuming that bigotry, misogyny or antisemitism are symptoms of a mental health problem is a dangerous and ableist misconception

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2022/10/11/kanye-west-antisemitism-bipolar-disorder-mental-health/8235254001/

[KhunLA]

15 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Look at the media jackals all piling on Kanye. And BAM, just like that, mental illness is now a mock-able trait, something to use to poke fun and ridicule at the sufferer. A shameful episode really. Why have his closest friends and family not been able to get him the help he needs? This reflects worse on Adidas than West, if they were a good moral company they would help West in his time of need, not publicly virtue signal by firing him over a psychotic episode. Just feeling sad about what society has become in this administration.

Silencing/censorship of anyone, no matter who, speaks their mind if contrary to the mainstream elitist.

 

Sending any 'conservative' thinking folks into the closet, as livelihoods at risk for challenging the puppet masters.

 

“None so blind as those that will not see.”

[JonnyF]

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Where is he being ridiculed on the basis of his mental illness?

Across social media.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Across social media.

Or so you tell us in your social media post on this social media platform.

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Silencing/censorship of anyone, no matter who, speaks their mind if contrary to the mainstream elitist.

 

Sending any 'conservative' thinking folks into the closet, as livelihoods at risk for challenging the puppet masters.

 

“None so blind as those that will not see.”

It’s a full on conspiracy.

 

Or it’s just some guy running his mouth with hate and getting the  payback all for himself.

 

Not like the good old days, when hate begot consequences for the target of the hate.

[Bkk Brian]

8 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Silencing/censorship of anyone, no matter who, speaks their mind if contrary to the mainstream elitist.

 

Sending any 'conservative' thinking folks into the closet, as livelihoods at risk for challenging the puppet masters.

 

“None so blind as those that will not see.”

So according to you "conservative' thinking folks" equates to hate speech and anti-semitism. Strange conclusion

[KhunLA]

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s a full on conspiracy.

 

Or it’s just some guy running his mouth with hate and getting the  payback all for himself.

 

Not like the good old days, when hate begot consequences for the target of the hate.

MSM division / distraction tactics, as usual.  Why it even makes the news is the only question.  Oh wait, I just told you why.

 

Hook line & sinker  ...  as he deficits continue to increase in all countries across the board, along with the wealth of the elite.

 

“None so blind as those that will not see.”

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, KhunLA said:

MSM division / distraction tactics, as usual.  Why it even makes the news is the only question.  Oh wait, I just told you why.

 

Hook line & sinker  ...  as he deficits continue to increase in all countries across the board, along with the wealth of the elite.

 

“None so blind as those that will not see.”

It makes the news because a guy just lost millions for spewing hate.

 

But since you mentioned deficits continuing to increase, here a catch-up for you:

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/21/us-budget-deficit-cut-in-half-for-biggest-decrease-ever-amid-covid-spending-declines.html

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

MSM division / distraction tactics, as usual.  Why it even makes the news is the only question.  Oh wait, I just told you why.

 

Hook line & sinker  ...  as he deficits continue to increase in all countries across the board, along with the wealth of the elite.

 

“None so blind as those that will not see.”

Doesn't it make the news because he himself puts it in the news with his constant interviews, self promotion and affiliated promotions? Looks like its all back fired on him eh.

 

A Timeline of the Consequences Kanye West Has Faced for His ‘WLM’ Shirts & Antisemitic Hate Speech

https://www.billboard.com/lists/kanye-west-hate-speech-consequences-timeline/celebrities-react-to-death-con-tweet/

 

No wonder he went begging for more promotion to sketchers but oops that's also back fired.

[Denim]

23 hours ago, bendejo said:

Can't they just cut off his tongue?  They can make it a special form of punishment for rappers.

 

 

Would anybody notice the difference ?

[Bkk Brian]

41 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Across social media.

Links to where he's being mocked because of his bi polar?

Edited October 27, 2022 by Bkk Brian

[Scott]

Troll post and replies removed.   When you purport something to be a fact then, yes, a link may be required to back it up.  Some members make things up and expect everyone to accept it as gospel.