Thai/British teen "selling sex for 500 baht a time" at rich man's house - mum calls for her return

[tubby johnson]

57 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Underaged sex is disgusting.

Yes, but ....

[Ralf001]

1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said:

Some people have disgusting dreams.

Some are smart enough to not mention those dreams in public... others not so smart !!

[LivinLOS]

11 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

It's not cultural when it's against the law.

The legal age for sex in Thailand is 15 (about a year younger than most other western nations) so until the child reaches that age then there really isn't any question of who is/isn't to blame; they are NOT considered adults so the real adults have to take responsibility and also the blame.

I remember being 14 and really, really wanting to drive. Guess what? I couldn't because I was too young. Likewise with this subject, it doesn't matter a jot what the child wants or does, it's illegal and the adults should know this and be held responsible and we should all be holding ourselves and those responsible to these high moral standards that you so glibbly discard. 

And it IS victim blaming when you blame a child for their actions in matters such as this.

Ohh but it is cultural.. There is a very different attitude to sex and morality in asia than the west.. Pretending that isnt so doesnt change the reality. I notice you continue to ignore the adult senior family member telling the child she should have sold herself rather than give herself to her boyfriend ?!? 

Theres a million road 'laws' routinely ignored.. Are you saying that because its law then it isnt happening ?? I guess Pattaya is just the worlds largest open air brothel city in the world by chance is it ?? Closely followed by other asian capitals. 

Edited October 26, 2022 by LivinLOS

[Bluespunk]

27 minutes ago, LivinLOS said:

I am unsure that 'victim' blaming is an appropriate term

I am and it is. 

[LivinLOS]

1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:

I am and it is. 

The reality is Thais have been engaged in the practice of selling themselves for 100s of years.. And will continue selling themselves for a lot longer.. 

Its the land of negotiable affection. Through all levels of society from the commoners (historical records of buffalo women dating back 100s of years) to the high society trading daughters and concubines. 

Edited October 26, 2022 by onthedarkside
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[Sparktrader]

Parents should parent. Exploiting 14yos is disgusting. Go find a 25yo gf.

[fusion58]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Naruemol has appealed to the Department of Special Investigation and in a latest move was appealing to anti-human trafficking authorities in a bid to get her daughter back home. 

Unless her brown envelopes are fatter than those of the well-to-do businessman, then she might as well reconcile herself to being down one daughter.

[Bluespunk]

1 hour ago, LivinLOS said:

The reality is Thais have been engaged in the practice of selling themselves for 100s of years.. And will continue selling themselves for a lot longer.. 

Its the land of negotiable affection. Through all levels of society from the commoners (historical records of buffalo women dating back 100s of years) to the high society trading daughters and concubines. 

The girl is underage. 
 

She is being exploited. 
 

To say she is the architect of such exploitation is victim blaming. 

[JeffersLos]

1 hour ago, pomchop said:

14 y.o girls being preyed upon by rich adults is pedophile

You're wrong.

 

You obviously have no idea what 'pedophile' means. 

[LivinLOS]

6 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

She is being exploited. 
 

To say she is the architect of such exploitation is victim blaming. 

Maybe she is.. and maybe she isnt.. 

You would need to talk to the girl herself to determine her motives, desires, and if she is making a free will choice. It is entrely possible shes being coerced.. Its also entirely possible shes one of the many many teenagers very willingly selling herself. 

The only thing I find surprising is why this is news ?? Likely only due to the UK based parent.. Go on twitter and search riab ngaan <province> what I suggested and you will find 10s or 100s of teens openly selling sex, sex video calls, home made porn, etc etc.. Some posting in school uniforms etc. Once you search with Thai script it is suddenly all in the open, and Thai script tells you who its for.. 

 

Edited October 26, 2022 by LivinLOS

[Bluespunk]

2 minutes ago, LivinLOS said:

Maybe she is.. and maybe she isnt.. 

You would need to talk to the girl herself to determine her motives, desires, and if she is making a free will choice. It is entrely possible shes being coerced.. Its also entirely possible shes one of the many many teenagers very willingly selling herself. 

The only thing I find surprising is why this is news ?? Likely only due to the UK based parent.. Go on twitter and search riab ngaan <province> what I suggested and you will find 10s or 100s of teens openly selling sex, sex video calls, home made porn, etc etc.. Some posting in school uniforms etc. Once you search with Thai script it is suddenly all in the open, and Thai script tells you who its for.. 

 

There is no maybe. 
 

The girl is underage. 
 

And I have no intention of searching for underage girls to exploit sexually. For any reason. 

Edited October 26, 2022 by Bluespunk

[giddyup]

1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

There is no maybe. 
 

The girl is underage. 

Every society has their own ideas about what the legal age should be. Like smoking dope. Once it could have got you locked up for 20 years, now it's just a misdemeanor. Who know what the age of consent will be in 20 years time?

[Bluespunk]

2 minutes ago, giddyup said:

Every society has their own ideas about what the legal age should be. Like smoking dope. Once it could have got you locked up for 20 years, now it's just a misdemeanor. Who know what the age of consent will be in 20 years time?

The girl is underage here and now.

Edited October 26, 2022 by Bluespunk

[LivinLOS]

Just now, Bluespunk said:

There is no maybe. 
 

The girl is underage. 

Is she making the choice with free will ?? 

I was 14 the first time my parents left for months leaving me to look after myself solo.. My old man ran away to sea on the cape boats at 14.. We were both immature but we both made choices with our own free will..  No one coerced us to make those choices and we were responsible for our actions (I was briefly put into a care home because I was arrested and didnt have a guardian and refused to give them any family contact details but I was able to escape the care facility in 12 hours so no harm done ;)).

Absolutely shes under the legal age to have sex.. Thats not in dispute. Is she being forced to do so or choosing to do so? Entirely different question. 

[BangkokReady]

34 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

It's not cultural when it's against the law.

Even when culturally the law is considered advisory and is generally only enforced when there is some bigger problem caused or a wealthy hiso person demands action?

 

You must know that in Thailand people break the law all day every day and generally no one does anything about it.

 

Thai behaviour is dictated largely by custom and tradition, hence its very common to see underage girls in relationships with twenty something (age) men.

[Bluespunk]

Just now, LivinLOS said:

Is she making the choice with free will ?? 

I was 14 the first time my parents left for months leaving me to look after myself solo.. My old man ran away to sea on the cape boats at 14.. We were both immature but we both made choices with our own free will..  No one coerced us to make those choices and we were responsible for our actions (I was briefly put into a care home because I was arrested and didnt have a guardian and refused to give them any family contact details but I was able to escape the care facility in 12 hours so no harm done ;)).

Absolutely shes under the legal age to have sex.. Thats not in dispute. Is she being forced to do so or choosing to do so? Entirely different question. 

Underage means no informed consent. 
 

The question is moot. 
 

Sex with an underaged girl means the only one to blame is the adult predatory scum seeking and carrying out any and all sexual acts. 

[LivinLOS]

1 minute ago, BangkokReady said:

Thai behaviour is dictated largely by custom and tradition, hence its very common to see underage girls in relationships with twenty something (age) men.

And when a pregnancy happens its pay off time.. Higher payoffs for under 15s or larger age gaps than the mandated 3 years.. Parents often rubbing thier hands together at the good fortune of that extra few months.. 

[LivinLOS]

Just now, Bluespunk said:

Sex with an underaged girl means the only one to blame is the adult predatory scum seeking and carrying out any and all sexual acts. 

and when ones 14 and the others 15.. 

Still 'predatory scum' I take it ?? 

[Bluespunk]

Just now, LivinLOS said:

and when ones 14 and the others 15.. 

Still 'predatory scum' I take it ?? 

Absolutely not the case here and I did specify adult in my post. 

Edited October 26, 2022 by Bluespunk

[LivinLOS]

2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Absolutely. 

OK so you keep living in your absolutist dream world.. With your white knight card on display.. 

Out there in the world of Thais.. This is a daily occurrence, and no ones surprised or especially outraged. 

I struggle to see how people can live here and yet be so ignorant of the culture they have moved into. 

Edited October 26, 2022 by LivinLOS

[metisdead]

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[BangkokReady]

7 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Sex with an underaged girl means the only one to blame is the adult predatory scum seeking and carrying out any and all sexual acts. 

So if the underage girl sought out and came on to the adult man, initiating all sexual acts, would it still be the the adult doing everything?

[Bluespunk]

1 hour ago, LivinLOS said:

OK so you keep living in your absolutist dream world.. With your white knight card on display.. 

Out there in the world of Thais.. This is a daily occurrence, and no ones surprised or especially outraged. 

I struggle to see how people can live here and yet be so ignorant of the culture they have moved into. 

 

1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:

Absolutely not the case here and I did specify adult in my post. 

 

[2009]

59 minutes ago, LivinLOS said:

the gran (40s, maybe 50 !!) turned up screaming mad "why you give your virgin away you stupid girl.. You never give your pussy away.. You need to make him pay you for it" lovely woman she was !! 

That seems to be the sentiment here.

 

There's no such thing as "no strings attached" here.

[Berkshire]

Sex with an underage girl is just nuts.  You're looking at some serious prison time.  Not worth it.  Why would any guy do that in Thailand when there's so many legal options available?  In the USA, we call them jail bait....for a reason.

[Bluespunk]

1 minute ago, BangkokReady said:

So if the underage girl sought out and came on to the adult man, initiating all sexual acts, would it still be the the adult doing everything?

The adult would still be a predator and at fault if the child is underage. 

Edited October 26, 2022 by Bluespunk
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[johnnybangkok]

36 minutes ago, LivinLOS said:

Ohh but it is cultural.. There is a very different attitude to sex and morality in asia than the west.. Pretending that isnt so doesnt change the reality. I notice you continue to ignore the adult senior family member telling the child she should have sold herself rather than give herself to her boyfriend ?!? 

Theres a million road 'laws' routinely ignored.. Are you saying that because its law then it isnt happening ?? I guess Pattaya is just the worlds largest open air brothel city in the world by chance is it ?? Closely followed by other asian capitals. 

Your silly, anectdotal stories have no bearing on this matter so they should be ignored.

No one is denying there are cultural aspects to how sex is viewed in Thailand and in the most cases it's healthy and to be encouraged and no one is 'pretending' it isn't happening, however, it's a VERY different thing when you are talking about minors and I'm not really sure why you can't see this or feel compelled to argue about it. No amount of local culture, tradition or general acceptance should be used as an excuse when it comes to having sex with children. It's just plain wrong and if you can't see that then there really is no hope for you. 

[giddyup]

1 minute ago, Berkshire said:

Sex with an underage girl is just nuts.  You're looking at some serious prison time.  Not worth it.  Why would any guy do that in Thailand when there's so many legal options available?  In the USA, we call them jail bait....for a reason.

You don't seem to get it. It's a common occurrence in Thailand and you can probably count on one hand anyone doing time for it.

[LivinLOS]

53 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

It's not cultural when it's against the law.

 

1 minute ago, johnnybangkok said:

No one is denying there are cultural aspects to how sex is viewed in Thailand 

hmmmm

[BangkokReady]

5 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

The adult would still be a predator and at fault if the child is underage. 

Would it still be the adult doing everything?

 

I'll answer for you: no, of course it wouldn't, so what you said is illogical.