Pattaya: Brit and German had sex with underage girls - they paid 2,000 baht a time

[Fat is a type of crazy]

This is a sense of lightheartedness and lack of clear cut condemnation on recent topics like this that makes me wonder what sick stuff some who post here get up to. 

[Lacessit]

31 minutes ago, it is what it is said:

 

why would anyone pay for sex?

Everybody pays for sex, one way or another. The price tag can vary from a pack of cigarettes to a house.

[bobbin]

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Why would anybody pay for sex with old women?

To be fair, 30 year old women are only on the cusp of being old..

 

Another 5 years older however...  ????

[drgoon]

4 hours ago, Artisi said:

Did they knowingly have sex with underage girls or were they told or lead to believe they were older? 

Very difficult to tell the difference in age for many Thai girls/ women, I've seem older women that look like teenagers with a couple of kids in toe. 

Tow 

[zyphodb]

4 hours ago, Artisi said:

Did they knowingly have sex with underage girls or were they told or lead to believe they were older? 

Very difficult to tell the difference in age for many Thai girls/ women, I've seem older women that look like teenagers with a couple of kids in toe. 

True the world over, they seem to be maturing younger these days, girls anyway, and keeping those looks for longer....

[Cat ji]

3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I think officially the rules are that nobody below the age of 20 is allowed in bars.

Do the police check the age of people in bars and enforce these rules?

Because if they would do that then it would be impossible that a customer picks up an underaged girl in a bar.

Obviously some girls look young. But with others it is not obvious. If a girl works in a bar (and the customer has to pay bar fine) then IMHO the bar and bar owner and bar manager are mostly responsible for this.

Police raids - random checks to see whether licensed premises are checking ID like they are legally required to d, i.e. they are liable. Although of course there is police corruption.

 

[Cat ji]

17 minutes ago, zyphodb said:

True the world over, they seem to be maturing younger these days, girls anyway, and keeping those looks for longer....

There has been a trend, since many years ago, of early onset puberty. [Related to 'pseudo-hormones' in packaging and hormone stuff used by milk producers.]

[Mr Meeseeks]

45 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

This is a sense of lightheartedness and lack of clear cut condemnation on recent topics like this that makes me wonder what sick stuff some who post here get up to. 

Some of us have been here for years and it was a lot worse 20+ years ago. 

 

This is a part of Thailand and its culture that we have to just deal with unfortunately. 

[CharlieH]

Abusive posts and response removed.

[Onerak]

3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Do the police check the age of people in bars and enforce these rules?

My sugar babies (both in Pattaya and Bangkok) all worked in bars (where else they would work unlike Western countries' sugar babies who may be college students or aspiring models) and they said police come multiple times in a year year and they do check age and work status of each girl. May be brown envelope is used if found illegal workers or underage girls. 

[FritsSikkink]

2 hours ago, KannikaP said:

Or a FAKE ID card?

Like loads of 14 years old will have a fake ID card.

[sidjameson]

We all have a duty of care to others.

Laws are binary. Morality isn't. There's no significant difference between underage and 18, 19, even older.

Governments get away with persuading 18 year olds to go to war, degenerates take advantage of 18 year olds lack of cognitive maturity to understand the damage they're doing to themselves.

 

[Lacessit]

35 minutes ago, Cat ji said:

There has been a trend, since many years ago, of early onset puberty. [Related to 'pseudo-hormones' in packaging and hormone stuff used by milk producers.]

IIRC the 10-12 yo's having babies in the Latin American countries go into puberty very early because of the hormones fed to chickens to stimulate fast growth.

[OneMoreFarang]

15 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Like loads of 14 years old will have a fake ID card.

I don't know about the 14yo but many years ago it was normal that the 16+ old girls use the ID cards of their "older" sisters who often worked in the same bars.

[brucegoniners]

Cut their ⚾ ???? ???? off...

[Why Me]

The guys had an arrangement with a mamasan to discreetly send them young-looking 30-year olds? No. They knew exactly what they wanted. Gary Glitter isn't the only farang perv who found his way to these parts. 

[OneMoreFarang]

6 hours ago, sidjameson said:

We all have a duty of care to others.

Laws are binary. Morality isn't. There's no significant difference between underage and 18, 19, even older.

Are you joking?

 

Morality, and especially norms of having sex are very different all over the world.

Why are there so many young girls working in bars in Thailand? One reason is because they have babies. Now think about, how can they have babies with 17? ...

 

Also the laws are very different all over the world.

 

 

[Hummin]

6 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Are you joking?

 

Morality, and especially norms of having sex are very different all over the world.

Why are there so many young girls working in bars in Thailand? One reason is because they have babies. Now think about, how can they have babies with 17? ...

 

Also the laws are very different all over the world.

 

Does it comfort you that 12 years is the legal age in Philippines? Where do you draw the line, and where does you moral kick in? 
 

I think most countries have additional laws consering working girls. I do not dear to google myself

[OneMoreFarang]

8 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Does it comfort you that 12 years is the legal age in Philippines? Where do you draw the line, and where does you moral kick in? 
 

I think most countries have additional laws consering working girls. I do not dear to google myself

My point was and is that people all over the world don't all think the same. And obviously that also changes over time. 

 

Personally, I don't know think any 12yo girl is sexually attractive (just writing this sounds creepy). But I remember a Brazilian girl who I knew well who told me when she was 12 (in Brazil) she often climbed out of the window at night to have sex - because she wanted it, not because she got paid for it.

 

I am long enough in Thailand that I remember the 16 year old girls dancing in the front row of that bar with the long gun in Soi C. They were one of the main attractions of that place. And that place was packed all the time and I don't remember any guy telling me: No, I don't go there, they have prostitutes under 18.

That doesn't me everybody took those girls out. But they were certainly attractive.

So, I suggest let's not pretend that we all are only interested in 30+ year old women.

 

To avoid trouble, it is obviously a good idea to make sure the sexual partner is legal. And all people who have sex with each other should do it consensually. If any guy here has sex with a girl/woman who doesn't want that then it doesn't matter if she is 15, 20 or 30. If she doesn't want it then don't do it! 

[mikeymike100]

1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said:

Like loads of 14 years old will have a fake ID card.

Its Thailand, almost everything can be fake, if you know where to look for it?

[proton]

6 hours ago, Artisi said:

Did they knowingly have sex with underage girls or were they told or lead to believe they were older? 

Very difficult to tell the difference in age for many Thai girls/ women, I've seem older women that look like teenagers with a couple of kids in toe. 

But they all have ID cards you can check the age on

[Hummin]

14 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

My point was and is that people all over the world don't all think the same. And obviously that also changes over time. 

 

Personally, I don't know think any 12yo girl is sexually attractive (just writing this sounds creepy). But I remember a Brazilian girl who I knew well who told me when she was 12 (in Brazil) she often climbed out of the window at night to have sex - because she wanted it, not because she got paid for it.

 

I am long enough in Thailand that I remember the 16 year old girls dancing in the front row of that bar with the long gun in Soi C. They were one of the main attractions of that place. And that place was packed all the time and I don't remember any guy telling me: No, I don't go there, they have prostitutes under 18.

That doesn't me everybody took those girls out. But they were certainly attractive.

So, I suggest let's not pretend that we all are only interested in 30+ year old women.

 

To avoid trouble, it is obviously a good idea to make sure the sexual partner is legal. And all people who have sex with each other should do it consensually. If any guy here has sex with a girl/woman who doesn't want that then it doesn't matter if she is 15, 20 or 30. If she doesn't want it then don't do it! 

Still there is huge individual differences. Seeing the innocent young teenagers up in Isaan knowing some of them is just about to make a decision to hit the road and start working in bars, is quite disturbing. They are so childish even at 18 years they are still in cartoon and teddy bears age. I just can't wrap my head around it, how some find this sexual attractive.

 

And some do not pretend to love women in they 30'ies, I have always been a Stifler's mom's boy!

 

But if you guys have the same attraction for younger legal girls whatever that means, I have to admit I can understand it, but at same time, I feel lucky. So many more attractive women for me, even for free ????. But I'm aging to, and soon I'm out of league even for those women! At least those who is attractive. 

[OneMoreFarang]

16 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Stifler's mom

Just in case anybody missed that movie in 1999:

 

 

[NoshowJones]

3 hours ago, it is what it is said:

 

why would anyone pay for sex?

If you are ugly and have a big belly it is the only way you are going to get sex.

[Hummin]

18 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Just in case anybody missed that movie in 1999:

 

 

I believe Danish and German X rated movies did something to me when the first beta and vhs movies appeared in the shelfs early 80’ies 12 years old. Thats how porn  impact an innocent mind.

 

16 yars old seduced by a women in her 40’ies who husband was a sailor. She chased me in to toilet at a company dinner where I was working temporary. 
 

 

[hotandsticky]

3 hours ago, it is what it is said:

 

why would anyone pay for sex?

 

 

Because you can.

 

 

Everyone pays for sex, one way or another.

 

 

[herfiehandbag]

1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said:

Like loads of 14 years old will have a fake ID card.

I should imagine fake ID cards 

are quite common. They may not pass muster with a government office, but for someone with a few beers inside him, and deeply I'm lust, they are probably convincing enough...

[Thingamabob]

5 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Why would anybody pay for sex with old women?

What a sad comment. Nothing wrong with older women. 

[hotandsticky]

1 minute ago, Thingamabob said:

What a sad comment. Nothing wrong with older women. 

He said old.

 

 

Not older.......

[Rbproject]

To add a bit more context, this is an open bar in the bar complex of the extended Soi made in Thailand (next to tree town). Incredibly busy. There is no way that allegedly 12-15 year old can work there without anybody noticing. You can see whether girls are too young, you can definitely see that girls are 12 or 15. I call <deleted> by the police. It’s a farce