Why is the UK struggling more than other countries?

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 hours ago, kwilco said:

Not all Brexiteers are racists, but all racists are Brexiteers

Do you consider it to be racist/xenophobic for Countries to require foreigners to obtain visas before entering a Country ?

[kwilco]

Brexit was brought about by the same kind of thinking that brought Trump about.

 

Probably the most embarrassing blunder in British history it was a fatal mix of lemming-like stupidity and nationalism – and we all know where both those traits lead.

 

Everything that Remainers said would happen has happened....

 

The problem with the UK at the present is that everything that is affecting other nations is affecting the UK between 4 and 10% worse.

 

This is made even more devastating because the current government is a bunch of second-rate politicians elected on a single issue – Brexit – they have no skills to run a country on the general issues that are needed to run a country, they are swamped by dogma – to the point they elected a series of PMs who weren’t up to the job.

The first tried to mitigate the damage got sacked, the second tried to lie about it, got sacked, the third put UK on the edge of collapse, got sacked and now the current PM is being told what to do by the Monday club and Tory men in grey suits in a vain effort to try and restore the UK’s reputation before the next election.

The fact is that the UK is now looked at quizzically by other countries and is outside the political arena in which it used to be an influential leader. The only nation in the G7 in recession.

 

There have been blunders in the past, the South Sea Bubble, the British Expeditionary force, and Suez but Brexit dwarfs them all; it can only be compared with the loss of the American colonies – and even then, we didn’t lose the whole lot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 20, 2022 by kwilco

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, kwilco said:

Brexit was brought about by the same kind of thinking that brought Trump about.

Probably the most embarrassing bunder in British history it was a fatal mix of stupidity and nationalism – and we all know where nationalism leads.

 

Everything that Remainers said would happen has.

 

The problem with the UK at the present is that everything that is affecting other nations is affecting the UK between 4 and 10% worse.

 

This is made even more devastating because the current c=government is a bunch of second-rate politicians elected on a single issue – Brexit – they have no skills to run a country on the general issues that are needed to run a country they are swamped by dogma – to the point they elected a series of PMs who weren’t up to the job.

The first tried to mitigate the damage, the second tried to lie about it the third but UK on the edge of collapse and now the current PM is being told what to do by the Monday club and Tory men in grey suits in a vain effort to try and restore the UK’s reputation.

The fact is that the UK is now looked at quizzically by other countries and is outside the political arena in which it used to be an influential leader.

 

There have been blunders in the past, the South Sea Bubble, the British Expeditionary force, Suez but Brexit dwarfs them all it can only be compared with the loss of the American colonies – and even then, we didn’t lose the whole lot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

This too will pass, and all will be well with Britain, or it won't, but all the moaning in the world will not change what will be an iota.

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1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

This too will pass, and all will be well with Britain, or it won't, but all the moaning in the world will not change what will be an iota.

Thanks, Yoda.

[Mac Mickmanus]

4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

This too will pass, and all will be well with Britain, or it won't, but all the moaning in the world will not change what will be an iota.

Yeah, its like the U.K has an 11 % inflation rate and if we wouldn't have left the E.U , the inflation rate might have been 10 % instead .

   Whhhoopi do 

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Yeah, its like the U.K has an 11 % inflation rate and if we wouldn't have left the E.U , the inflation rate might have been 10 % instead .

   Whhhoopi do 

Whatever the tribulations may be for a few years, it'll be worth it not to be beholden to Brussels.

 

“Nothing worth having comes easy.”

― Theodore Roosevelt

[Scott]

A post advocating violence has been removed.  Keep it civil. 

 

[DBath]

Q: Why is the UK struggling more than other countries?

 

A: Because they still can’t get over the fact that they’re unable to colonize the rest of the world. 

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, DBath said:

Q: Why is the UK struggling more than other countries?

 

A: Because they still can’t get over the fact that they’re unable to colonize the rest of the world. 

Are you making a joke or are you being serious ?

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2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Whatever the tribulations may be for a few years, it'll be worth it not to be beholden to Brussels.

 

“Nothing worth having comes easy.”

― Theodore Roosevelt

Why do you think these "tribulations" will be limited to a few years?

[DBath]

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Are you making a joke or are you being serious ?

What do you think?

[Mac Mickmanus]

4 minutes ago, DBath said:

What do you think?

I couldn't tell , it wasn't funny and it didn't make  any sense as a serious post 

Maybe it was a clever post that went straight over my head ?

If I misunderstood, could you explain what you meant ?

[DBath]

Wasn’t meant to be ‘funny’. I have friends who are British, but unlike you most if them have a sense of humor. Shall I send you happy wishes next 4th of July?

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 minutes ago, DBath said:

Wasn’t meant to be ‘funny’. I have friends who are British, but unlike you most if them have a sense of humor. Shall I send you happy wishes next 4th of July?

Oh ,it was a serious post .

The British Empire is  a thing that is in the past and British people no longer want any colonies , the U.K are still in the commonwealth , which form colonies also belong to  , but the UK doesn't want to go back to colonisation 

[chang50]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Why do you think these "tribulations" will be limited to a few years?

For some reason the brexiteers are unable or unwilling to accept the scale of the damage they have inflicted on the UK.I clearly remember going to bed on the eve of the brexit vote in 2016 when the baht was 51 to the pound and waking up a few hours later to find it was 45 when the dust settled.I could have cried.

[Mac Mickmanus]

7 minutes ago, chang50 said:

For some reason the brexiteers are unable or unwilling to accept the scale of the damage they have inflicted on the UK.I clearly remember going to bed on the eve of the brexit vote in 2016 when the baht was 51 to the pound and waking up a few hours later to find it was 45 when the dust settled.I could have cried.

The Pound /Baht exchange rate is irrelevant to British people living in the UK

[chang50]

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

The Pound /Baht exchange rate is irrelevant to British people living in the UK

Do you think it only fell against one currency?A weak pound affects every Brit. 

[chang50]

6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

The Pound /Baht exchange rate is irrelevant to British people living in the UK

https://www.economicsobservatory.com/how-has-brexit-affected-the-value-of-sterling

[Mac Mickmanus]

34 minutes ago, chang50 said:

Do you think it only fell against one currency?A weak pound affects every Brit. 

Good for our exports and it encourages tourists to visit the UK

[nauseus]

4 hours ago, placeholder said:

Nonsense. So long as the UK had its own currency, it couldn't be incorporated into a one nation EU. And if the unlikely day would come when the EU made such a demand, then the UK would be perfectly free to leave.

The currency would gave gone too - it's the only way the proposal can work - we left while there was still an option to do so. 

[nauseus]

4 hours ago, kwilco said:

Brexit was brought about by the same kind of thinking that brought Trump about.

 

Probably the most embarrassing blunder in British history it was a fatal mix of lemming-like stupidity and nationalism – and we all know where both those traits lead.

 

Everything that Remainers said would happen has happened....

 

The problem with the UK at the present is that everything that is affecting other nations is affecting the UK between 4 and 10% worse.

 

This is made even more devastating because the current government is a bunch of second-rate politicians elected on a single issue – Brexit – they have no skills to run a country on the general issues that are needed to run a country, they are swamped by dogma – to the point they elected a series of PMs who weren’t up to the job.

The first tried to mitigate the damage got sacked, the second tried to lie about it, got sacked, the third put UK on the edge of collapse, got sacked and now the current PM is being told what to do by the Monday club and Tory men in grey suits in a vain effort to try and restore the UK’s reputation before the next election.

The fact is that the UK is now looked at quizzically by other countries and is outside the political arena in which it used to be an influential leader. The only nation in the G7 in recession.

 

There have been blunders in the past, the South Sea Bubble, the British Expeditionary force, and Suez but Brexit dwarfs them all; it can only be compared with the loss of the American colonies – and even then, we didn’t lose the whole lot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Trump is everywhere it seems. Your type of nonsense is so obvious it's unlikely to spread far, thankfully. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[kwilco]

6 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Do you consider it to be racist/xenophobic for Countries to require foreigners to obtain visas before entering a Country ?

I'm always slightly befuddled by your questions as they always appear to have no connection to what has been said. Instead they just reveal your simplistic attitudes to race or life in general.

Edited November 20, 2022 by kwilco

[kwilco]

2 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Good for our exports and it encourages tourists to visit the UK

I think you failed O level economics amongst many other subjects....... do you really think it works like that? Would you like to try giving a more der=tailed reasoning? I didn't think you would or could.

Edited November 20, 2022 by kwilco

[Mac Mickmanus]

22 minutes ago, kwilco said:

I'm always slightly befuddled by your questions as they always appear to have no connection to what has been said. Instead they just reveal your simplistic attitudes to race or life in general.

If you would had followed the thread you would have seen that that subject was what was being discussed .

   As you didnt read the previous posts , I will give you a quick highlight .

  I was called a Xenophobic because I thought Foreigners should get visas to enter Countries , I replied to that and then you replied to my reply and I then replied to you asking you the same question .

   Could you scroll back two pages and get up to date with the flow of the discussion ? thanks 

[Mac Mickmanus]

30 minutes ago, kwilco said:

I think you failed O level economics amongst many other subjects....... do you really think it works like that? Would you like to try giving a more der=tailed reasoning? I didn't think you would or could.

If the UK Pound is weak , that means the U.K becomes cheaper for tourists and it will encourage tourist to visit the UK , in the same way that you go to Thailand because its cheap and the UK is too expensive to live in for you

[nigelforbes]

4 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

The Pound /Baht exchange rate is irrelevant to British people living in the UK

Ah yes, the good old, Pound in your pocket line from 1967.

 

What you wrote is mostly true and correct for the British people living in the UK, but only for the time being. The problem is that when the exchange rate remains low for long periods, imports begin to cost more. This results in price rises and eventually price stickiness causes the  increases to become permanent. The usual answer to that is that wages rise to keep pace with rising prices and the cost of exports advantage is wiped out. For many parts of society that balances out but segments such as pensioners, low paid and expats usually get squeezed as a result.

 

The unfortunate reality is that the exchange rate is relevant to the overall economic picture of life in the UK, unless it is maintained within an acceptable range, adjustments have to be made to some part of the economy in order to compensate. In a perfect world of economics theory, national manufacturing would replace the need for imports but the lag time alone is around five years.

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5 hours ago, nauseus said:

The currency would gave gone too - it's the only way the proposal can work - we left while there was still an option to do so. 

How would that work? One morning citizens in the UK wake up and the currency is gone? Because the EU says so? It is to laugh. 

[NanLaew]

On 11/12/2022 at 3:32 AM, BritManToo said:

All the western countries appear to be having the same problems as far as I can see.

 

Go woke, go broke!

Shut your countries for 2 years because of COVID ....... check.

Force your country to use 'green' energy ........ check.

Allow unrestricted illegal immigration ......... check.

Move all manufacturing to the 3rd world ......... check.

Have interest rates lower than inflation ......... check.

Only offer unsuitable candidates for election ....... check.

Bellyaching while helping kick the can down the road ....... check.

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, nigelforbes said:

Ah yes, the good old, Pound in your pocket line from 1967.

 

What you wrote is mostly true and correct for the British people living in the UK, but only for the time being. The problem is that when the exchange rate remains low for long periods, imports begin to cost more. This results in price rises and eventually price stickiness causes the  increases to become permanent. The usual answer to that is that wages rise to keep pace with rising prices and the cost of exports advantage is wiped out. For many parts of society that balances out but segments such as pensioners, low paid and expats usually get squeezed as a result.

 

The unfortunate reality is that the exchange rate is relevant to the overall economic picture of life in the UK, unless it is maintained within an acceptable range, adjustments have to be made to some part of the economy in order to compensate. In a perfect world of economics theory, national manufacturing would replace the need for imports but the lag time alone is around five years.

What's the "acceptable range"? A person more learned in all things forex once told me that of the world's 'major' currencies, historically, the pound sterling has been the most volatile. The highs and lows aren't persistent. In all my years of working around the world and getting paid in US$ while living and banking mostly in the UK, the 'roundabouts and swings' experience hasn't been too arduous or detrimental. You can't be a winner all the time.

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18 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

What's the "acceptable range"? A person more learned in all things forex once told me that of the world's 'major' currencies, historically, the pound sterling has been the most volatile. The highs and lows aren't persistent. In all my years of working around the world and getting paid in US$ while living and banking mostly in the UK, the 'roundabouts and swings' experience hasn't been too arduous or detrimental. You can't be a winner all the time.

It's just a matter of swings? Highs and lows? There is no trend at all apparent to you?