webfact Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 by TNR Staff A COVID-INFECTED security guard was found dead at the booth of a factory in Suvarnabhumi area Ftiday morning (Nov. 25) with four other Covid patients having also died at their homes in Bangkok over the past few days, Naewna newspaper said. Ruamkatanyu Foundation rescuers found Mr. Chaturong (surname withheld), 41, lying dead on the booth’s floor. They then wore PPE suits and tested him with an ATK kit and got a positive result. It was assumed that he died while on duty with his body taken to Ramathibodi Chakri Naruebodindra Hospital in Samut Prakan province and later to be released to his relatives for funeral rites. Meanwhile Mr. Anawut Phoampai, a Ruamkatanyu Foundation rescuer, said in a Facebook post that at 5.25 p.m. on Nov. 18 his team was notified of a suspected death after neighbours got a bad smell from a house in their community. Upon inspecting it they found the body of a 53-year-old woman lying prone in a room with her 72-year-old husband likewise dead on a bed. Both tested positive for Covid. Full story: https://thainewsroom.com/2022/11/25/covid-infected-security-guard-dies-at-factory-booth/ -- © Copyright THAI NEWSROOM 2022-11-26 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. Monthly car subscription with first-class insurance, 24x7 assistance and more in one price - click here to find out more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ukrules Posted November 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2022 I wonder what he died of? 4 2 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nobodysfriend Posted November 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2022 5 hours ago, webfact said: A COVID-INFECTED security guard was found dead at the booth of a factory Some people , even knowing that they are sick , still go to work . Sorry , but in case of a contagious covid infection , that is irresponsible behavior . Especially when one woks in close contact to other people . 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anrcaccount Posted November 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2022 3 hours ago, ukrules said: I wonder what he died of? Almost certainly not of covid. It's not killing otherwise healthy 41 year old's. 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, anrcaccount said: Almost certainly not of covid. It's not killing otherwise healthy 41 year old's. I believe it has done..... we don't really get the stats any more. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anrcaccount Posted November 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, jacko45k said: I believe it has done..... we don't really get the stats any more. Very, very uncommon. Have a look at some Australian stats- lately, 1.9% of deaths are under 60 years old. On top of that most of those, had complicating factors and co morbidities. https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/covid-19-mortality-wave 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacko45k Posted November 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, anrcaccount said: Have a look at some Australian stats- lately, 1.9% of deaths are under 60 years old. On top of that most of those, had complicating factors and co morbidities. I see this comment a lot, and do not understand why it is made. Are you suggesting that when Covid causes the death of someone older, or with co-morbidities, it is unimportant and somehow can be disregarded? 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 I hope the variant of COVID is figured out and the public told what it is that killed these people. I thought that the Omicron and later variants were weaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ohyesuare Posted November 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2022 1 hour ago, nobodysfriend said: Some people , even knowing that they are sick , still go to work . Sorry , but in case of a contagious covid infection , that is irresponsible behavior . Especially when one woks in close contact to other people . I agree but many here without sick leave are left with no choice but to still go to work or possibly go hungry and further into debt. 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted November 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2022 28 minutes ago, Stargeezr said: I hope the variant of COVID is figured out and the public told what it is that killed these people. I thought that the Omicron and later variants were weaker. We have no idea how virulent some can be to certain folks. Also it does not say whether he was vaccinated or not. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NanLaew Posted November 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2022 1 hour ago, nobodysfriend said: Some people , even knowing that they are sick , still go to work . Sorry , but in case of a contagious covid infection , that is irresponsible behavior . Especially when one woks in close contact to other people . Some people, even knowing that they are sick, still go to work because they need the money to survive. Sorry, but it's irresponsible to think that everyone can manage with a few days off work. This guy calls off sick and he's replaced and since it's a minimum wage/skills job, he could be out of work for more than the time it takes to get over a Covid infection. Anyway, he spends most of his time in the booth where he died so he may have weighed the risks involved. He may also have been asymptomatic but either way, he did not "die of/from Covid". We've been down this Covid road long enough to know that hand-washing and social distancing are the most effective barriers. If one isn't taking care of their personal hand hygiene, they shouldn't blame getting infected on others. Personally, I have never had the need to get close enough to any security guards to catch anything. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mad mick Posted November 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2022 RIP . People died on the 1000s from cold and flu / respiratory disease every year , All you hear about is so called Covid .. No reporting daily on cold or flu deaths daily like mainstream scare mongering media and politicians obsessed with it. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad mick Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, jacko45k said: I see this comment a lot, and do not understand why it is made. Are you suggesting that when Covid causes the death of someone older, or with co-morbidities, it is unimportant and somehow can be disregarded? Uhh ! it's a fact correct sastics lets start report on all cold and flu sastics that would be higher but no one dies from anymore! Only covid fear mongering like all deases we need learn to live with it. It's here to stay Trust the science W_O???????????? Edited November 26, 2022 by Mad mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BangkokReady Posted November 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2022 1 hour ago, jacko45k said: Are you suggesting that when Covid causes the death of someone older, or with co-morbidities, it is unimportant and somehow can be disregarded? On the contrary. It's extremely important, when using statistics to discuss "how deadly" covid is, that you have the full picture of the circumstances of the victims. Particularly if those stats then inform policy. "Look how many people are dying from covid" is a lot different from "look how many otherwise healthy people are dying from covid". The healthier the people are that are dying, the more dangerous the virus is. It is obviously sad that anyone dies, and older people and people with co-morbidities are not "disposable", but when using stats we need to be honest. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BangkokReady Posted November 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2022 2 hours ago, nobodysfriend said: Some people , even knowing that they are sick , still go to work . Sorry , but in case of a contagious covid infection , that is irresponsible behavior . Especially when one woks in close contact to other people . He might have been asymptomatic and died of a heart attack. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 8 hours ago, webfact said: It was assumed that he died while on duty with his body taken to Ramathibodi Chakri Naruebodindra Hospital in Samut Prakan province and later to be released to his relatives for funeral rites. 8 hours ago, webfact said: Upon inspecting it they found the body of a 53-year-old woman lying prone in a room with her 72-year-old husband likewise dead on a bed. Both tested positive for Covid. It makes me wonder why none had sought treatments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, hotchilli said: It makes me wonder why none had sought treatments? Hadn't the government recently stopped paying for treatment and left it up to the sick to pay? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Assuming say just 0.5% of the people of Thailand have covid at any one time. it would mean that a few people each day would test positive for covid at death, even if they didn't die of it - i serious doubt half of these died from covid 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Mad mick said: Uhh ! it's a fact correct sastics lets start report on all cold and flu sastics that would be higher but no one dies from anymore! Only covid fear mongering like all deases we need learn to live with it. It's here to stay Trust the science W_O???????????? I don't understand... are you having a stroke? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommysboy Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Someone suffering from severe covid19 would be exhibiting some distressing symptoms already. Most likely he just died of a massive heart attack. It's tragic but it happens, even more so in Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 On 11/26/2022 at 9:13 AM, ThailandRyan said: We have no idea how virulent some can be to certain folks. Also it does not say whether he was vaccinated or not. And maybe it was a working situation where he was not allowed to be absent to go get medicines etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorry Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 On 11/26/2022 at 7:47 AM, anrcaccount said: Almost certainly not of covid. It's not killing otherwise healthy 41 year old's. He is dead. Isn't that proof enough for you that he died? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 28 minutes ago, ukrules said: You have no idea what he died of. Occam's razor. He had covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 On 11/26/2022 at 7:39 AM, nobodysfriend said: Some people , even knowing that they are sick , still go to work . Sorry , but in case of a contagious covid infection , that is irresponsible behavior . Especially when one woks in close contact to other people . Some people cannot afford to take the time off in case there is no job to go back to. At this point nobody knows what he died of, including you. So why are YOU speculating that he died of a covid infection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FarAway Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 On 11/26/2022 at 2:17 AM, jacko45k said: I see this comment a lot, and do not understand why it is made. Are you suggesting that when Covid causes the death of someone older, or with co-morbidities, it is unimportant and somehow can be disregarded? No, obviously any death is sad. But people are dying of sooo many things. Flu, Tuberculosis, Tetanus, shark attacks, falling coconuts, lightnings. It is all about a sensible approach and putting things into relation. And the approach to lockdown the whole world, directly or heavily indirectly forcing people to inject an unknown substance into their body after signing a letter that they consent, putting masks on the whole world including children and toddlers, that is absolutely not reasonable and in NO RELATION to the "harm" that COVID does to people. If it would kill almost anyone in contact, and yes young people as well, then it would be reasonable. But destroying the life of people worldwide, forcing them to inject vaccines where no one will be held reliable for side effects, masking innocent children up, pushing digital surveillance measures in the shadow of this whole thing and that all for the "protection" (which didn't even worked out) of some old people is just not in any relation. Not in any. By the way my father is 64, obese and got diabetes and did not took the vaccine. For him COVID was like any other flu. So even the old and "in-risk-group" are not that much in danger as you wanna fear-monger people into believing. No one said or even implies that its neglectable if old people dies. No one wants his parents or grandparents to die. But we WANT OUR FREEDOM. We DO NOT want to end like the Chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James105 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 On 11/26/2022 at 8:17 AM, jacko45k said: I see this comment a lot, and do not understand why it is made. Are you suggesting that when Covid causes the death of someone older, or with co-morbidities, it is unimportant and somehow can be disregarded? I see this comment a lot and do not understand why it is made. Imagine, if you would, that every death of someone over 60 was reported as "news". Is that what you want? Or if not, are you suggesting that if someone dies of something other than covid, it is unimportant and can somehow be disregarded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 3 hours ago, ozimoron said: 3 hours ago, ukrules said: You have no idea what he died of. Occam's razor. He had covid. That’s not Occam’s razor - becuase having covid does not necessarily mean Covid is the most obvious cause of death. If the article had quoted... Security guard with Cold dies while at Factory Booth... would it be ‘obvious’ (Occam’s razor) that he died of a cold ??... or more likely something else ? The reporting that he was covid infected is somewhat ‘click-baitey’ and very clumsy, especially at a time when the mere mention of ‘covid’ can bring about so much irrational and emotional debate.... He died of something else and just happened to have Covid ? He died of complications directly as a result of suffering from Covid ? .... Which is it ?... both are very different... But - we most clearly have people who believe that because covid was mentioned in a report that he ‘died of Covid’.... Now.. Covid doesn't kill people, complications as a result of covid does (i.e Pneumonia etc)... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: That’s not Occam’s razor - becuase having covid does not necessarily mean Covid is the most obvious cause of death. If the article had quoted... Security guard with Cold dies while at Factory Booth... would it be ‘obvious’ (Occam’s razor) that he died of a cold ??... or more likely something else ? The reporting that he was covid infected is somewhat ‘click-baitey’ and very clumsy, especially at a time when the mere mention of ‘covid’ can bring about so much irrational and emotional debate.... He died of something else and just happened to have Covid ? He died of complications directly as a result of suffering from Covid ? .... Which is it ?... both are very different... But - we most clearly have people who believe that because covid was mentioned in a report that he ‘died of Covid’.... Now.. Covid doesn't kill people, complications as a result of covid does (i.e Pneumonia etc)... Ok, so he died of complications from covid, same thing. He was 41, iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted November 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2022 28 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Ok, so he died of complications from covid, same thing. He was 41, iirc. No, you don’t know that at all.... It's possible he died of complications from Covid. It's also possible covid had nothing to do with his death and the fact that he tested positive is coincidental. I think, like you, some people read this news and jump to the Covid conclusions immediately without thinking critically. Equally so, IF the article quoted that he’d been vaccinated 2 weeks ago, people would be stating that the vaccine killed him. The article has already ‘pre-loaded’ bias in some... the cause of death was never stated. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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