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More refreshing (and surprising) honesty from mainstream media.

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44 minutes ago, placeholder said:

And what is there in OzSage or Dr. Phelps' stances that say the risk of vaccine injury outweighs the risk of getting vaccincated? They have both stated that they are for stricter measures in addition to vaccination.

I think we have covered this, of course we can discuss details but I would rather get back to the topic. It's about censorship regarding Covid vaccine injuries and the political pressure on doctors to not diclose them. This warrants extensive investigation and of course it means there could be a lot of unreported injuries, not taken into account in official statistics, which could change a lot of conclusions regarding safety.

 

I think Dr. Phelps' testimony in this respect is credible, do you?

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19 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

I think we have covered this, of course we can discuss details but I would rather get back to the topic. It's about censorship regarding Covid vaccine injuries and the political pressure on doctors to not diclose them. This warrants extensive investigation and of course it means there could be a lot of unreported injuries, not taken into account in official statistics, which could change a lot of conclusions regarding safety.

 

I think Dr. Phelps' testimony in this respect is credible, do you?

The topic is about Dr Phelps submission which covers many items not just the paragraph on more transparent reporting and Doctors being able to better relay any concerns they may have.

49 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

I think we have covered this, of course we can discuss details but I would rather get back to the topic. It's about censorship regarding Covid vaccine injuries and the political pressure on doctors to not diclose them. This warrants extensive investigation and of course it means there could be a lot of unreported injuries, not taken into account in official statistics, which could change a lot of conclusions regarding safety.

 

I think Dr. Phelps' testimony in this respect is credible, do you?

If Australia was the only country reporting data, then the point you are making might have some significance. But it's not. So, unless Australians are a biologically distinct subspecies, this line of speculation is utterly irrelevant.

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

The topic is about Dr Phelps submission which covers many items not just the paragraph on more transparent reporting and Doctors being able to better relay any concerns they may have.

Nice euphemism. Excerpt for the record:

 

Vaccine injury is a subject that few in the medical profession have wanted to talk about. Regulators of the medical profession have censored public discussion about adverse events following immunisation, with threats to doctors not to make any public statements about anything that “might undermine the government’s vaccine rollout” or risk suspension or loss of their registration.

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

If Australia was the only country reporting data, then the point you are making might have some significance. But it's not. So, unless Australians are a biologically distinct subspecies, this line of speculation is utterly irrelevant.

So according to this rationale, it will become relevant if politicians from other countries make similar submissions to Dr. Phelps'. Duly noted, and I am confident I will be getting back to you on this in due time.

15 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

Nice euphemism. Excerpt for the record:

 

Vaccine injury is a subject that few in the medical profession have wanted to talk about. Regulators of the medical profession have censored public discussion about adverse events following immunisation, with threats to doctors not to make any public statements about anything that “might undermine the government’s vaccine rollout” or risk suspension or loss of their registration.

Ok so now we have the full quote, what else did she say or is that not on your topic list? I'll be happy to help out to remind you.

Just now, rattlesnake said:

So according to this rationale, it will become relevant if politicians from other countries make similar submissions to Dr. Phelps'. Duly noted, and I am confident I will be getting back to you on this in due time.

Are you asserting that the scientists and statisticians working for the national public health services in the developed economies of the world are creating false data and/or coming up with false conclusions at the behest of politicians? You really want to go with that?

11 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Are you asserting that the scientists and statisticians working for the national public health services in the developed economies of the world are creating false data and/or coming up with false conclusions at the behest of politicians? You really want to go with that?

Well isn't that what is happening in Australia?

14 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Ok so now we have the full quote, what else did she say or is that not on your topic list? I'll be happy to help out to remind you.

The topic is the one in the OP, pasted here for your convenience:

 

I am noticing more and more of this lately....I wonder who is going to get thrown under the bus? There has been a SICKENING level of censorship revolving around the Covid vaccines. Here again is an article from MAINSTREAM MEDIA. I ask it NOT be taken down.  Here is a credible source admitting Australian doctors have been told to shut up about vaccine injuries......this is not an isolated incident, we ALL know this, though some really dont like to admit it. 

6 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

Well isn't that what is happening in Australia?

Has Phelps accused politicians of exerting this control even if what she claims is true? And what relevance does that have to all the other developed nations of the world and their reports?

29 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

The topic is the one in the OP, pasted here for your convenience:

 

I am noticing more and more of this lately....I wonder who is going to get thrown under the bus? There has been a SICKENING level of censorship revolving around the Covid vaccines. Here again is an article from MAINSTREAM MEDIA. I ask it NOT be taken down.  Here is a credible source admitting Australian doctors have been told to shut up about vaccine injuries......this is not an isolated incident, we ALL know this, though some really dont like to admit it. 

Which comes from her submission including this:

 

"Examples of misinformation in the early days, and some still in circulation include:
“COVID is not airborne” Wrong.
“Masks don’t work, in fact they might increase your risk” Wrong.
“Children under 12 have been proven not to be carriers or transmitters of the disease” Wrong.
“It is necessary and inevitable for everyone to get COVID". No it isn’t.
“Herd immunity from mass infection is a good idea.” No it isn’t.
“It’s just a cold”. No it is not.
“COVID will evolve to be milder”. There is no evidence to support this.
“COVID is not as bad as the flu”. Yes it is.
“At least I got it over and done with”. No you haven’t.
“Children are sicker this year because of immunity debt". Immunity debt is a made-up term to excuse exposing children to a dangerous virus.
“The pandemic will end in 2022”. Unlikely.
Daily press conferences by public health officials emphasised that of the people who died, many had “underlying health issues”, as if that made the premature deaths of those people any less tragic."

 

But don't let that distract you from your obsession and deflection of what else is in the OP

15 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Has Phelps accused politicians of exerting this control even if what she claims is true? And what relevance does that have to all the other developed nations of the world and their reports?

Yes she has:

 

Regulators of the medical profession have censored public discussion about adverse events following immunisation, with threats to doctors not to make any public statements about anything that “might undermine the government’s vaccine rollout” or risk suspension or loss of their registration.

“Any promotion of anti-vaccination statements or health advice which contradicts the best available scientific evidence or seeks to actively undermine the national immunisation campaign (including via social media) is not supported by National Boards and may be in breach of the codes of conduct and subject to investigation and possible regulatory action.” -Ahpra

 

And given the coordination between nations in terms of Covid response, of course it is relevant to look into whether similar censorship, pressure and threats happened elsewhere:

https://www.dfat.gov.au/news/media-release/g7-joint-statement-who-executive-board

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Which comes from her submission including this:

 

"Examples of misinformation in the early days, and some still in circulation include:
“COVID is not airborne” Wrong.
“Masks don’t work, in fact they might increase your risk” Wrong.
“Children under 12 have been proven not to be carriers or transmitters of the disease” Wrong.
“It is necessary and inevitable for everyone to get COVID". No it isn’t.
“Herd immunity from mass infection is a good idea.” No it isn’t.
“It’s just a cold”. No it is not.
“COVID will evolve to be milder”. There is no evidence to support this.
“COVID is not as bad as the flu”. Yes it is.
“At least I got it over and done with”. No you haven’t.
“Children are sicker this year because of immunity debt". Immunity debt is a made-up term to excuse exposing children to a dangerous virus.
“The pandemic will end in 2022”. Unlikely.
Daily press conferences by public health officials emphasised that of the people who died, many had “underlying health issues”, as if that made the premature deaths of those people any less tragic."

 

But don't let that distract you from your obsession and deflection of what else is in the OP

I pasted the OP in its entirety. The above statements, which Dr. Phelps indeed made, do not mitigate or supersede the topic of this thread, unlike what you seem to believe.

9 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

I pasted the OP in its entirety. The above statements, which Dr. Phelps indeed made, do not mitigate or supersede the topic of this thread, unlike what you seem to believe.

Nonsense since when does a topic not include the link and original source, absolute B/S. Making things up as you go along....lol

5 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

Yes she has:

 

Regulators of the medical profession have censored public discussion about adverse events following immunisation, with threats to doctors not to make any public statements about anything that “might undermine the government’s vaccine rollout” or risk suspension or loss of their registration.

“Any promotion of anti-vaccination statements or health advice which contradicts the best available scientific evidence or seeks to actively undermine the national immunisation campaign (including via social media) is not supported by National Boards and may be in breach of the codes of conduct and subject to investigation and possible regulatory action.” -Ahpra

 

And given the coordination between nations in terms of Covid response, of course it is relevant to look into whether similar censorship, pressure and threats happened elsewhere:

https://www.dfat.gov.au/news/media-release/g7-joint-statement-who-executive-board

She said regulators. Not politicians. You just made the clichéd jump from regulators to politicians. Pavlovian much?

8 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

Yes she has:

 

Regulators of the medical profession have censored public discussion about adverse events following immunisation, with threats to doctors not to make any public statements about anything that “might undermine the government’s vaccine rollout” or risk suspension or loss of their registration.

“Any promotion of anti-vaccination statements or health advice which contradicts the best available scientific evidence or seeks to actively undermine the national immunisation campaign (including via social media) is not supported by National Boards and may be in breach of the codes of conduct and subject to investigation and possible regulatory action.” -Ahpra

 

And given the coordination between nations in terms of Covid response, of course it is relevant to look into whether similar censorship, pressure and threats happened elsewhere:

https://www.dfat.gov.au/news/media-release/g7-joint-statement-who-executive-board

“Any promotion of anti-vaccination statements or health advice which contradicts the best available scientific evidence or seeks to actively undermine the national immunisation campaign (including via social media) is not supported by National Boards and may be in breach of the codes of conduct and subject to investigation and possible regulatory action.” 


Please explain what you think is wrong with that?

10 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Which comes from her submission including this:

 

"Examples of misinformation in the early days, and some still in circulation include:
“COVID is not airborne” Wrong.
“Masks don’t work, in fact they might increase your risk” Wrong.
“Children under 12 have been proven not to be carriers or transmitters of the disease” Wrong.
“It is necessary and inevitable for everyone to get COVID". No it isn’t.
“Herd immunity from mass infection is a good idea.” No it isn’t.
“It’s just a cold”. No it is not.
“COVID will evolve to be milder”. There is no evidence to support this.
“COVID is not as bad as the flu”. Yes it is.
“At least I got it over and done with”. No you haven’t.
“Children are sicker this year because of immunity debt". Immunity debt is a made-up term to excuse exposing children to a dangerous virus.
“The pandemic will end in 2022”. Unlikely.
Daily press conferences by public health officials emphasised that of the people who died, many had “underlying health issues”, as if that made the premature deaths of those people any less tragic."

 

But don't let that distract you from your obsession and deflection of what else is in the OP

 

This is a post of made up things (not saying you made it up though).

 

Utter nonsense Brian.

Just now, owl sees all said:

 

This is a post of made up things (not saying you made it up though).

 

Utter nonsense Brian.

Its from Dr Phelps. Does she always make up things or only those you disagree with?

 

Which ones are utter nonsense, please provide credible link.

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2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

“Any promotion of anti-vaccination statements or health advice which contradicts the best available scientific evidence or seeks to actively undermine the national immunisation campaign (including via social media) is not supported by National Boards and may be in breach of the codes of conduct and subject to investigation and possible regulatory action.” 


Please explain what you think is wrong with that?

I'll explain.

 

The best 'scientific advice' should read best 'selceted scientific and compromised advice' IMO.

 

What 'codes of conduct'? These codes of conduct simply reject anything that might interrupt the gravy train.

 

'Regularity action'. Dear me, the UK Regulatory Body (MHRA), for one, is mostly funded by big pharma. Their boss said - on camera -  that the role of the MHRA was to give access to the promoters of pharmaceutical products.

 

Dear me! Have we forgotten Gioxx and Thalidomide so quickly?

10 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

I'll explain.

 

The best 'scientific advice' should read best 'selceted scientific and compromised advice' IMO.

 

What 'codes of conduct'? These codes of conduct simply reject anything that might interrupt the gravy train.

 

'Regularity action'. Dear me, the UK Regulatory Body (MHRA), for one, is mostly funded by big pharma. Their boss said - on camera -  that the role of the MHRA was to give access to the promoters of pharmaceutical products.

 

Dear me! Have we forgotten Gioxx and Thalidomide so quickly?

Your opinion is that the scientific advice has been selected - AKA a conspiracy.

 

You are making a false equivalence between the AHPRA and the UK’s MHPRA.

 

The AHPRA has codes of conduct governing the professional practice of medicine in Australia - So those codes of conduct.
 

But congratulations on having made such an I’ll informed conspiracy laden post.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Health_Practitioner_Regulation_Agency

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicines_and_Healthcare_products_Regulatory_Agency

19 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

So according to this rationale, it will become relevant if politicians from other countries make similar submissions to Dr. Phelps'. Duly noted, and I am confident I will be getting back to you on this in due time.

In the meantime, in the real world...

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