Pheu Thai Party Faces Dissolution Move Over Paetongtarn Visiting Thaksin In HK

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Mr. Sonthiya Sawasdee, right, and Paetongtarn “Oong Ing” Shinawatra with other Pheu Thai Party members, left. Photo: Thai Rath

 

By Thai Newsroom Reporters

 

THE ELECTION COMMISSION was yesterday (Dec.27) petitioned to consider taking steps to have the Pheu Thai Party dissolved by court for allegedly breaking the law, given Paetongtarn “Oong Ing” Shinawatra’s recent visit to Hong Kong where she met her fugitive father/former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra.

 

Political activist Sonthiya Sawasdee filed the fresh petition for the polling agency to take legal action which might possibly lead to a major lawsuit to have the Pheu Thai finally dissolved by court due to the event in which Paetongtarn, who has been earlier named head of the largest opposition party’s innovation and public participation programmes as well as head of the Pheu Thai Family and publicly propagated the party’s campaign policies, had visited the island state to see her father who has been taking self-exile overseas after he had been earlier sentenced by court to 10 years in jail on misconduct charges perpetrated during his premiership nearly two decades ago.

 

Sonthiya said he had by no means considered Paetongtarn only as a daughter of the fugitive former premier but as an executive member of the Pheu Thai which is largely speculated to name her among a trio of partisan candidates for prime minister in the next general election.

 

Full story: https://thainewsroom.com/2022/12/27/pheu-thai-party-faces-dissolution-move-over-paetongtarn-visiting-thaksin-in-hk/

 

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[OneMoreFarang]

Just deport all Shinawatras to the desert. Let them play with their billions in the sand.

[2baht]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

for allegedly breaking the law

Oh! Do they do that? ???? Shock, horror!

[Scouse123]

Elephant in the room here, if he is a fugitive from Justice why hasn't there been an international arrest warrant issued?

[ikke1959]

AS said many times.... They will find or invent laws for ban and dissolve parties for the elections.. They must stay in power...Thai Democracy

[OneMoreFarang]

30 minutes ago, ikke1959 said:

AS said many times.... They will find or invent laws for ban and dissolve parties for the elections.. They must stay in power...Thai Democracy

In this case I guess it will be difficult to make a problem for a political party when the unofficial leader in Thailand visits the unofficial owner of the party - because he is also her father. And as far as I know there is no law against visiting a criminal father somewhere outside of Thailand.

 

Political parties and politicians should work for the country. They should not work for fugitive (super rich) criminals, and they should not work for foreigners. In many countries there are restrictions like that, and those restrictions make sense.

[ThailandRyan]

1 hour ago, 2baht said:

Oh! Do they do that? ???? Shock, horror!

I allegedly dropped my drawers and bared my rear end before using a public toilet, will I be removed from my position as head of my household?  

 

I do not care for anyone in any Government, but since when is it a crime against the countries elections process to visit your father for the holidays.  

[ThailandRyan]

4 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

In this case I guess it will be difficult to make a problem for a political party when the unofficial leader in Thailand visits the unofficial owner of the party - because he is also her father. And as far as I know there is no law against visiting a criminal father somewhere outside of Thailand.

 

Political parties and politicians should work for the country. They should not work for fugitive (super rich) criminals, and they should not work for foreigners. In many countries there are restrictions like that, and those restrictions make sense.

Yet there are no rules written here or else there would be no one left to become a politician.....graft, elephant ticket, skeletons in the closet etc....

[2baht]

1 minute ago, ThailandRyan said:

I allegedly dropped my drawers and bared my rear end before using a public toilet, will I be removed from my position as head of my household?  

 

I do not care for anyone in any Government, but since when is it a crime against the countries elections process to visit your father for the holidays.  

Any excuse to get their snout in the trough! Oink oink! ????

[RichardColeman]

Someone in the party walked on the cracks in the pavement - ban the party

[ChrisY1]

There's always ways in Thailand to "skin a cat"!......Dissolve the PT party and problem solved.....ban their politicians...Future Forward all over again. 

[Srikcir]

32 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

In this case I guess it will be difficult to make a problem for a political party when the unofficial leader in Thailand visits the unofficial owner of the party - because he is also her father. And as far as I know there is no law against visiting a criminal father somewhere outside of Thailand.

 

Political parties and politicians should work for the country. They should not work for fugitive (super rich) criminals, and they should not work for foreigners. In many countries there are restrictions like that, and those restrictions make sense.

Just like the Constitution Court should be independent of politics and support the law; instead listens first to those (the "Good People") that create and perpetuate court justices and EC membership. So should PTP dissolution get to the CC, be sure its decision will be sadly predictable.

[jacko45k]

5 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Just deport all Shinawatras to the desert. Let them play with their billions in the sand.

The sad reality is, there is plenty things to do with ones money in these places!

[Purdey]

I suppose they could have asked Interpol to bring him in, but the problem is that no country believes in removing a popularly elected prime minister so that won't work. 

Maybe if they could at least bring the Red Bull guy in then people would see Thailand as having a justice system.

[Artisi]

5 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

Elephant in the room here, if he is a fugitive from Justice why hasn't there been an international arrest warrant issued?

Don't ask difficult questions, They have enough on their plate attending to the raising of an international warrant for the red bull guy, that's seems to have proved impossible so what chance have they got with an ex PM? 

[KhunBENQ]

Election preparations have started.

[Dogmatix]

A neat way to remove Ung Ing as a threat to Prayut, Prawit and others, just like the solution to the threat posed by Thanathorn and Future Forward after the last election.  A new Thaksin party always comes back after being dissolved and beheaded but a 10 year ban will definitely cramp Ung Ing's political style. 

 

I hope Thaksin has a nice room waiting for her in Dubai in case things go criminal.

[MrMojoRisin]

9 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Just deport all Shinawatras to the desert. Let them play with their billions in the sand.

Keep dreaming.

 

Thaksin has been in exile for nearly two decades yet remains the dominant figure in any election held in Thailand.

 

The only option available to the establishment now is to negotiate the terms of their surrender.

 

In human affairs, good eventually triumphs over evil.

 

 

 

 

[Rimmer]

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[Scouse123]

1 hour ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Keep dreaming.

 

Thaksin has been in exile for nearly two decades yet remains the dominant figure in any election held in Thailand.

 

The only option available to the establishment now is to negotiate the terms of their surrender.

 

In human affairs, good eventually triumphs over evil.

 

 

 

 

Yeah.

 

But whose the good in this story and who is evil?

One side Thaksins mob, corrupt to the core and on the other the military,  who are the same.

 

Same old, same old,  just different pigs at the trough.

[billd766]

7 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

Yeah.

 

But whose the good in this story and who is evil?

One side Thaksins mob, corrupt to the core and on the other the military,  who are the same.

 

Same old, same old,  just different pigs at the trough.

But when Thaksin and also his sister went to the polls it was in a free and fair election.

 

Something that NEVER happens with a military coup, which actually is treason against the elected government.

 

The ministry of dirty tricks is working overtime again, scraping the barrel.

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[smutcakes]

10 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Just deport all Shinawatras to the desert. Let them play with their billions in the sand.

Why? Thaksin has not set foot in the country in 15 years and the corruption is worse now than ever... Are you sure they are the problem? Certainly seems not.

[OneMoreFarang]

10 minutes ago, smutcakes said:

Why? Thaksin has not set foot in the country in 15 years and the corruption is worse now than ever... Are you sure they are the problem? Certainly seems not.

How do you know if the corruption is worse? Some international index? Or your gut feeling?

I don't know if it is worse. But I remember the times when Thaksin was officially in charge and there was basically everyday news about some shady deal with him involved. It was almost guaranteed to open the newspaper and see another of those articles (yes, at that time I read newspapers).

I don't know how corrupt the current government is, but apart from all those watches it is not so obvious - at least for me.

And obviously life is now peaceful without all those red shirts on the streets.

[smutcakes]

2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

How do you know if the corruption is worse? Some international index? Or your gut feeling?

I don't know if it is worse. But I remember the times when Thaksin was officially in charge and there was basically everyday news about some shady deal with him involved. It was almost guaranteed to open the newspaper and see another of those articles (yes, at that time I read newspapers).

I don't know how corrupt the current government is, but apart from all those watches it is not so obvious - at least for me.

And obviously life is now peaceful without all those red shirts on the streets.

I work in the private sector with 1000 Thai and International staff, and part of my role is dealing on a daily basis with authorities, BOI and investors into Thailand. I speak to thai lawyers, thai colleagues and officials daily. All of them acknowledge that the corruption now is shocking through every single level. 

 

 

[OneMoreFarang]

2 minutes ago, smutcakes said:

I work in the private sector with 1000 Thai and International staff, and part of my role is dealing on a daily basis with authorities, BOI and investors into Thailand. I speak to thai lawyers, thai colleagues and officials daily. All of them acknowledge that the corruption now is shocking through every single level. 

Thanks, that is interesting.

And what are their predictions if Thaksin's daughter will be PM? Or Future Forward?

Do they expect that there will be less corruption?

I am genuine asking; I don't know and it's interesting to hear what many Thai businesspeople think.

[smutcakes]

4 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Thanks, that is interesting.

And what are their predictions if Thaksin's daughter will be PM? Or Future Forward?

Do they expect that there will be less corruption?

I am genuine asking; I don't know and it's interesting to hear what many Thai businesspeople think.

I think most of them dont want Thaksin daughter but can understand why they still have support. Overwelming feeling seems to be dismay and lack of real ability to do anything. Doubt corruption will be any better as they have built the rules to encourage coalitions (to prevent TS parties) which of cause we all know how they are put together.

 

But those same people will go out of their way to be deferential to officials, waiing them when all the time these officials are stealing from them, so i dont hold out much hope.

[connda]

Democracy in Thailand (and many other places).

Find a way to disband you're political opponents party and make it illegal. 

Democracy in the 21st Century - what a joke.

[connda]

38 minutes ago, smutcakes said:

I speak to thai lawyers, thai colleagues and officials daily. All of them acknowledge that the corruption now is shocking through every single level. 

When has it been different?

 

[smutcakes]

3 minutes ago, connda said:

When has it been different?

 

There have been times over the last 15 years when it is less, but over the past 8 years it has noticeably gone up... currently its awful.

[MrMojoRisin]

1 hour ago, Scouse123 said:

Yeah.

 

But whose the good in this story and who is evil?

One side Thaksins mob, corrupt to the core and on the other the military,  who are the same.

 

Same old, same old,  just different pigs at the trough.

The good is democracy, free and fair elections, free press, freedom of speech, just and impartial courts…..open society.

 

It is myopic to allow perfect to be the enemy of progress.